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Does anyone know how to get the house in WIndhelm? I'm trying to speak to Ulfric  about it but he doesn't give me any missions like the other Jarls and just tells me to join the Stormcloaks and I dont' wanna.

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^ That may be the only way. On the previous page or two someone mentioned that you couldn't have a house in every city.

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RageGT wrote...

OMG! Finally, at level 47 I finished a quest I started at level 7!!! Tchau, Barbas!!! (And collected some 3-4 quest items on the way so I'll be completing a few miscellaneous too! =)

And Speech is a wonderful skill. I have to make it 100 asap! Only 3 levels to 50 and my Speech is still at 80. I haven't trained it once. After 50 it will become hard to train since it will become hard to level up so we gain 5 more training opportunities. Who do I talk to to train Speech? Is there a quest at the Bard's College before he can train me? Else I'll keep forging items and trading them because that raises speech too but it will be a pain.

As reference, I used to pay 400 septims for an Ebony Ingot. Now, if the trader is a female (like the smith's daughter in Whiterun), I pay only 160 septims. A bit more if they are male traders. And stores now buy anything I have and with a hell of a better price too. (Clavicus Vile's Mask with +20% and my Trader's amulet with +25% help a lot with that...hehe) I'm gonna be filthy rich!


On speech:

Your speech skill is high enough, you're way past the minimum for this:

Got to Riften.  Go to the Meadery and talk to the dark elf at the counter.  Ask him about the store owner and he will say nice things about her and a few options pop up:  You can bribe him to tell you his real feelings about her, or choose the first option and he'll tell you how he really feels about her as well, the minimum is 25 and as I said, you are way past that.

Then you just repeat the conversation over and over again until you max it out.  I already tested it myself, this conversation string does still repeat.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Of course there's more than one...I don't know where they are, but there's gotta be more than one.


There's one in Markarth.  I don't remember his name because I was just talking to random people to see it they had quests to give.  He had on a full set of leather armor, and he was in the market where the incident took place.

Edit: But he walked out of the area when I was done, so he may just walk around the city.

Modifié par Aaleel, 23 novembre 2011 - 01:57 .


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Depends. From what I've heard the Stormcloaks are extremely racist, so take that for what you will.


As opposed to the Thalmor, who are the TES equivalent of the Gestapo (Godwin's law, sorry folks :P)? Who want to prove the superiority of mer over man "one century at a time"? Who said that the Empire only exists "because they allow it to"?

At least Ulfric doesn't haul people off for imprisonment and death just for not sharing his beliefs. He might not treat those of other races very highly, but he's far from the murderous dictator the Aldmeri Dominion is looking to be.

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Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Does anyone know how to get the house in WIndhelm? I'm trying to speak to Ulfric  about it but he doesn't give me any missions like the other Jarls and just tells me to join the Stormcloaks and I dont' wanna.


You have to do the Blood on the Ice missions (part 1 and 2) before you can buy a house in Windhelm. To start the quest, go to the cemetery inside the city limits. You sort of just "happen upon it". And be forewarned, the quest is somewhat bugged. You'll understand it once you go through it, I promise. I'm not going to spoil it.

I just bought the house in Markarth last night, and it's huge! I think it's my favorite so far. Only two left for me to buy out of five! Image IPB

Modifié par happy_daiz, 23 novembre 2011 - 02:47 .


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greengoron89 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Depends. From what I've heard the Stormcloaks are extremely racist, so take that for what you will.


As opposed to the Thalmor, who are the TES equivalent of the Gestapo (Godwin's law, sorry folks :P)? Who want to prove the superiority of mer over man "one century at a time"? Who said that the Empire only exists "because they allow it to"?

At least Ulfric doesn't haul people off for imprisonment and death just for not sharing his beliefs. He might not treat those of other races very highly, but he's far from the murderous dictator the Aldmeri Dominion is looking to be.

The Thalmor are the Gestapo indeed. The Stormcloaks are not the genocidal maniacs many percieve them as but they aren't so tolerant.

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RPGamer13 wrote...

On speech:

Your speech skill is high enough, you're way past the minimum for this:

Got to Riften.  Go to the Meadery and talk to the dark elf at the counter.  Ask him about the store owner and he will say nice things about her and a few options pop up:  You can bribe him to tell you his real feelings about her, or choose the first option and he'll tell you how he really feels about her as well, the minimum is 25 and as I said, you are way past that.

Then you just repeat the conversation over and over again until you max it out.  I already tested it myself, this conversation string does still repeat.


OMG, it works! haha  Thanks for the tip! And free too. My Persuasion is high enough for most anything! =)

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He tolerates them enough to leave them relatively unharmed in the Gray Quarter of his city, when he could just as easily exile or eliminate them. There's even a High Elf merchant in the city - people ought to speak to her some time. She provides a little more insight into Ulfric's so-called "racism."

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I saw it was talked about overnight, but I thought I'd throw my two cents into the pile. Here's my little story.

Mjoll the Lioness. Wow. I loved her voice, and was so excited to get married to her, that I waited a little while. Well, around 80 hours, to be honest. I kept talking to her every time I saw her in Riften, and thought, "wow, I love her voice. I'm going to marry that one". I noticed that other NPCs had the same voice, but no matter. I still thought it was smexy. I wanted to savor it. Every time i'd see her, I'd talk to her, about the same stuff, and finally went and got Grimsever for her a couple of days ago. I was a little scared to go there, since she was nearly killed there.

On a sidenote, I've spent over 100 hours with my sister-in-arms, Lydia. I knew that once I got Grimsever, I'd probably want to swap out Lydia for Mjoll, and would have to start thinking about the impending nuptials. So last night, my husband tells me I should just go for it. I relent, and let him watch the ceremony with me. It was beautiful. I removed our helmets, so we could see each other's face during the ceremony. Mjoll and I were married, and moved into my house in Riften. And she brought that twit Aerin along. Fine, fine, I don't mind. So I ask Mjoll to come adventure with me, leaving Aerin at home with my new housecarl with the weird eyes.

So we go into the first dungeon, and I'm impressed at Mjoll's stories along the way. "You pulled out Grimsever, and the bandit nearly peed himself? That's great, Mjoll. Impressive!", I kept thinking. Wow, this woman actually talks, and is deep. She warns me of Draugrs, and other things that go bump in the night, and I think that's pretty cool. By the second dungeon, I was thinking, "Yes, Mjoll, your mom taught you how to fight with a sword. Good for you." By the third dungeon, I wanted to slit her throat. Seriously, that woman never shuts up.

Today, when I get home from work, Mjoll is making me a home-cooked dinner, giving me the money from the shop, and getting released from fighting with me. She can stay at home with creepy Aerin and the creepy housecarl, who both watch you and Mjoll sleep. I will find myself a nice, able-bodied MAN to do some fighting with. Toodles, Mjoll.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 23 novembre 2011 - 03:16 .


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happy_daiz wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Does anyone know how to get the house in WIndhelm? I'm trying to speak to Ulfric  about it but he doesn't give me any missions like the other Jarls and just tells me to join the Stormcloaks and I dont' wanna.


You have to do the Blood on the Ice missions (part 1 and 2) before you can buy a house in Windhelm. To start the quest, go to the cemetery inside the city limits. You sort of just "happen upon it". And be forewarned, the quest is somewhat bugged. You'll understand it once you go through it, I promise. I'm not going to spoil it.

I just bought the house in Markarth last night, and it's huge! I think it's my favorite so far. Only two left for me to buy out of five! Image IPB


I just have Windhelm left.  I should have gotten Solitude last, it just goes downhill from there.  If you haven' gotten Solitude yet, you're going to be one happy person when you finally get it ^_^

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It's nice that bethesda implemented marriage but... Ug

Oh you weat the amulet of Mara& I love you!
me too
Great let's marry
Aye


The end.

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Yes it's not a bioware game but geez.Ppl in SKyrim have n otime to forge relationship and romance .. It's all about reproduction.

Modifié par Suprez30, 23 novembre 2011 - 03:05 .


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I have increased my smithing to somewhere in the 80s last night and I am now wearing glass armor. Yay!

Enchanting is next, but I need more money and want to do some story related stuff. Grinding is not for me. ;)

My lockpicking is increasing too. Sneak is 97. Three more to go for Shadow Warrior. :) Those two didn't feel like grinding to get there, although I am not a fan of the lockpicking mini-game, I don't think there is a better one. And bashing chests doesn't feel right. I miss the auto-lockpicking in the game, though.

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Suprez30 wrote...

Yes it's not a bioware game but geez.Ppl in SKyrim have n otime to forge relationship and romance .. It's all about reproduction.


But female romances in Bioware games don't cook on demand! 

I ask Mjoll to cook and I get food. I ask Morrigan to cook and I get poisoned.:crying:

Modifié par chunkyman, 23 novembre 2011 - 03:10 .


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greengoron89 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Depends. From what I've heard the Stormcloaks are extremely racist, so take that for what you will.


As opposed to the Thalmor, who are the TES equivalent of the Gestapo (Godwin's law, sorry folks :P)? Who want to prove the superiority of mer over man "one century at a time"? Who said that the Empire only exists "because they allow it to"?

At least Ulfric doesn't haul people off for imprisonment and death just for not sharing his beliefs. He might not treat those of other races very highly, but he's far from the murderous dictator the Aldmeri Dominion is looking to be.


But the Stormcloaks were being compared to the Imperials here, not the Thalmor. Cyrodil is a cosmopolitan community, quite tolerant from what I understand. Skyrim in large part isn't. They don't allow Khajiit and Redguards into the cities and in extreme cases as in Windhelm, the capital of the Stormcloak resistance, citizen Dark Eleves are harrassed without provocation on a daily basis. Some cities are more progressive though. I haven't been to all of them yet but racism is alive and well in the resistance. My character gets ridiculed and called an Imperial bastard by some old blueblood Stormcloak supporter in Riften all the time and I'm not even a member of the Imperial Army. Things will only worsen for non-Nords in Skyrim if Ulfric gets the throne.

The Stormcloaks are all about being "True Nords" and it's fine to be proud of your heritage and who you are as a people but if they aren't careful that will go hand in hand with rasicm.

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I just have Windhelm left.  I should have gotten Solitude last, it just goes downhill from there.  If you haven' gotten Solitude yet, you're going to be one happy person when you finally get it ^_^


Isn't it funny how easy it is to get the house in Solitude? Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but it seemed like all you had to do was a FedEx delivery quest, and shazam, you could buy a house. I know there was more to it, but it felt like the easiest one.

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The only "true Nords" in Skyrim are the Companions.The Stormcloaks are a disgrace to the memory of Ysgramor.

Nords are supposed to be a laidback people who don't care about politics whatsoever and are happy when they have some mead to drink and a few skulls to crack. They also don't care about other races living in Skyrim, since after the glorious arse whopping Ysgramor and his 500 gave the Elves thousands of years ago, nobody dares to challenge a Nord anyway. 

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happy_daiz wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

I just have Windhelm left.  I should have gotten Solitude last, it just goes downhill from there.  If you haven' gotten Solitude yet, you're going to be one happy person when you finally get it ^_^


Isn't it funny how easy it is to get the house in Solitude? Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but it seemed like all you had to do was a FedEx delivery quest, and shazam, you could buy a house. I know there was more to it, but it felt like the easiest one.


Yeah some are easier than others.  I think that you should have to help people in every city.  Riften and Markarth are pretty easy.  You can get the one in Markarth before you even help the people lol. 

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^ I think my problem was that I had so many Bounty notes piled up that I couldn't remember which Jarl was which. I finally had to focus and take care of each of their things for them in a more orderly fashion.

I'm able to buy the Windhelm house, but I just haven't been back to do it yet. I love the one in Markarth. Something about it just draws me in.

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virumor wrote...

The only "true Nords" in Skyrim are the Companions.The Stormcloaks are a disgrace to the memory of Ysgramor.

Nords are supposed to be a laidback people who don't care about politics whatsoever and are happy when they have some mead to drink and a few skulls to crack. They also don't care about other races living in Skyrim, since after the glorious arse whopping Ysgramor and his 500 gave the Elves thousands of years ago, nobody dares to challenge a Nord anyway. 


You're right. This explanation really makes me believe Ulfric is using the ban of Talos as smokescreen to usurp the throne.

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I just wish you could marry the wonderful bow action in Skyrim to the great companions of Dragon Age. Then I would be playing the perfect game. I am a Bosmer Elf Archer (talk about being put down while you're saving the world), and there is NOTHING sweeter than taking out six-seven bandits one shot at a time from stealth----except for having someone like Fenris to fight with. I really miss true companions.

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YouthCultureForever wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Depends. From what I've heard the Stormcloaks are extremely racist, so take that for what you will.


As opposed to the Thalmor, who are the TES equivalent of the Gestapo (Godwin's law, sorry folks :P)? Who want to prove the superiority of mer over man "one century at a time"? Who said that the Empire only exists "because they allow it to"?

At least Ulfric doesn't haul people off for imprisonment and death just for not sharing his beliefs. He might not treat those of other races very highly, but he's far from the murderous dictator the Aldmeri Dominion is looking to be.


But the Stormcloaks were being compared to the Imperials here, not the Thalmor. Cyrodil is a cosmopolitan community, quite tolerant from what I understand. Skyrim in large part isn't. They don't allow Khajiit and Redguards into the cities and in extreme cases as in Windhelm, the capital of the Stormcloak resistance, citizen Dark Eleves are harrassed without provocation on a daily basis. Some cities are more progressive though. I haven't been to all of them yet but racism is alive and well in the resistance. My character gets ridiculed and called an Imperial bastard by some old blueblood Stormcloak supporter in Riften all the time and I'm not even a member of the Imperial Army. Things will only worsen for non-Nords in Skyrim if Ulfric gets the throne.

The Stormcloaks are all about being "True Nords" and it's fine to be proud of your heritage and who you are as a people but if they aren't careful that will go hand in hand with rasicm.


I've killed two dragons for Windhaven and have become the Leader of the Companions and still get told to "Watch it, sneak thief!" by the guards.  I'm a Bosmer Elf archer. Racism is alive and well in Skyrim.

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Carmen_Willow wrote...

I just wish you could marry the wonderful bow action in Skyrim to the great companions of Dragon Age. Then I would be playing the perfect game. I am a Bosmer Elf Archer (talk about being put down while you're saving the world), and there is NOTHING sweeter than taking out six-seven bandits one shot at a time from stealth----except for having someone like Fenris to fight with. I really miss true companions.

Yeah. I agree. Except for Fenris. ;) There was a quest in which I had to fight lots of undead stuff. Instead of rushing in, I moved backwards and pulled them out one by one. Only the boss came close to me, but rapid fire and him staggering prevented me from swithing to another weapon. ;)

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Currently my favorite melee weapon is the Dragonbane katana. As the name implies it works great against dragons.