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[KenKenpachi]

Well damnit they told me to talk to him. Also they took mah Shiv >>

[KJandrew]

Anyone else think Sheogorath and Sanguine should rule the world together?

[KenKenpachi]

KJandrew wrote...

Anyone else think Sheogorath and Sanguine should rule the world together?

I don't think that will end well.

[xkg]

jollyorigins wrote...

Ok so I just entered markarth for the first time and the whole forsworn quest began, problem is I can't go inside the general trader now, it seems to be permanently locked. I lock-picked it but I get in trouble for trespassing. Anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it?

Are you talking about Arnleift and Sons Trading Company shop ? Is the shopkeeper Lisbet alive ? Maybe she got kiled by some accident.

Anyway - try using this console command and look where it will take you (this should teleport you to her current location)

player.moveto 198EA

[ReallyRue]

KenKenpachi wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

Anyone else think Sheogorath and Sanguine should rule the world together?

I don't think that will end well.

Actually, I think it would end well.

As in, the world would end, but we'd have a damn good time while it did.

[KenKenpachi]

ReallyRue wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

Anyone else think Sheogorath and Sanguine should rule the world together?

I don't think that will end well.

Actually, I think it would end well.

As in, the world would end, but we'd have a damn good time while it did.

OH SUUUUUUURE just like those Vampires that wanted a cure.

[KJandrew]

KenKenpachi wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

Anyone else think Sheogorath and Sanguine should rule the world together?

I don't think that will end well.

Actually, I think it would end well.

As in, the world would end, but we'd have a damn good time while it did.

Hey, they never specified what state they wanted to be after they recieved their "medicine"

OH SUUUUUUURE just like those Vampires that wanted a cure.

Hey, they never specified what state they wanted to be in after the cure was "administered"

Modifié par KJandrew, 26 novembre 2011 - 07:04 .

[HoonDing]

Are there any reasons for joining Ulfric?

1) He has no honour (using Thu'um to either instakill or knock down the High King to get an easy kill)
2) Extrapolating from 1), he has no fighting skill
3) He has no charisma, judging from the speech against his henchmen
4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet
5) He is xenophobic and isolationist and lacks any strategic skill

[Dave of Canada]

virumor wrote...

Are there any reasons for joining Ulfric?

1) He has no honour (using Thu'um to either instakill or knock down the High King to get an easy kill)
2) Extrapolating from 1), he has no fighting skill
3) He has no charisma, judging from the speech against his henchmen
4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet
5) He is xenophobic and isolationist and lacks any strategic skill

I'm a Thalmor Assassin who's helping the Stormcloaks.

Does that work?

4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet

Oh... oh.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 novembre 2011 - 07:06 .

[chunkyman]

virumor wrote...

Are there any reasons for joining Ulfric?

1) He has no honour (using Thu'um to either instakill or knock down the High King to get an easy kill)
2) Extrapolating from 1), he has no fighting skill
3) He has no charisma, judging from the speech against his henchmen
4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet
5) He is xenophobic and isolationist and lacks any strategic skill

6) He's a Jarl but he looks like a filthy hippy.  
7) Windhelm < Solitude
8) He is a traitor to the Imperial Legion (he was in the Legion when fighting the Thalmor).
9) General Tullius could beat him in a fight.
10) He lacks the military force to stop a Thalmor invasion.

Modifié par chunkyman, 26 novembre 2011 - 07:27 .

[KJandrew]

virumor wrote...

Are there any reasons for joining Ulfric?

1) He has no honour (using Thu'um to either instakill or knock down the High King to get an easy kill)
2) Extrapolating from 1), he has no fighting skill
3) He has no charisma, judging from the speech against his henchmen
4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet
5) He is xenophobic and isolationist and lacks any strategic skill

1) How does that work? He's simply using what he has. And anyway if it did work like that then my Dragonborn has no honour and so they'll go together fine.
2) Where are you getting this from? By the same logic my Warrior has no fighting skill, making shouting at people his only defence.
3) Well i thought he had charisma, especially during his later speeches during the seiges 
4) How? If an independant Hammerfall can take on the Thalmor and win then so can an independant Skyrim.
5)  Seeing as the amount of stuff the elves have put him through I can forgive him for not being their best friend. And he doesn't seem to have done much against the elves in his own city. The Grey Quarter isn't that much worse than the rest of Windhelm, plus there is an elf with a stand and another elf owns the Alchemists, neither one comnplains about any bad treatment. And where the hell did you get him lacking any strategic skill from?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Ulfric is a ******
FOR THE EMPIRE!



J'zargo the khajit ... the best follower!
I helped him with the scrolls and called him to follow me. I've already sent 3 followers to Blades Camp at Sky Temple.

[AventuroLegendary]

Dave of Canada wrote...

virumor wrote...

Are there any reasons for joining Ulfric?

1) He has no honour (using Thu'um to either instakill or knock down the High King to get an easy kill)
2) Extrapolating from 1), he has no fighting skill
3) He has no charisma, judging from the speech against his henchmen
4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet
5) He is xenophobic and isolationist and lacks any strategic skill

I'm a Thalmor Assassin who's helping the Stormcloaks.

Does that work?

4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet

Oh... oh.

Thalmor SCUM! I will purge you from this once beautiful land! For Skyrim and for the Empire!
I wonder if there are any pro-Thalmor quests. They seem to be the only clear-cut bad guys... besides the bandits, of course.

[naughty99]

chunkyman wrote...

virumor wrote...

Are there any reasons for joining Ulfric?

1) He has no honour (using Thu'um to either instakill or knock down the High King to get an easy kill)
2) Extrapolating from 1), he has no fighting skill
3) He has no charisma, judging from the speech against his henchmen
4) He is a Thalmor puppet, plus lacks the intelligence to realize he's a puppet
5) He is xenophobic and isolationist and lacks any strategic skill

6) He's a Jarl but he looks like a filthy hippy.  
7) Windhelm < Solitude
8) He is a traitor to the Imperial Legion (he was in the Legion when fighting the Thalmor).

In my view this has a lot more to do with your character's background and outlook. For example, if you are playing a Talos worshipping Nord who is bitter about the White Gold Concordat, it would not make much sense to join the Legion IMO.

On the other hand, if you were playing a Dunmer refugee then it would seem much more logical to join the Legion and support Brunwulf Free-Winter to become the Jarl of Windhelm. He stands up for the rights of Dunmer and other races who have immigrated to Skyrim.

Modifié par naughty99, 26 novembre 2011 - 07:36 .

[gastovski]

Very disappointing ending.

[AventuroLegendary]

naughty99 wrote...


In my view this has a lot more to do with your character's background and outlook. For example, if you are playing a Talos worshipping Nord who is bitter about the White Gold Concordat, it would not make much sense to join the Legion IMO.

On the other hand, if you were playing a Dunmer refugee then it would seem much more logical to join the Legion and support Brunwulf Free-Winter to become the Jarl of Windhelm. He stands up for the rights of Dunmer and other races who have immigrated to Skyrim.

In my opinion, the only person who would NOT join the Legion (I'm a bit biased) would be one whose judgement clouded by racial "Patriotism" and pride (In this case, A Nord). My character, an Argonian Battlemage who is a complete outsider, wants the best for the people of Skyrim, whether they be Nordic or immigrant.
Thinking with logic, he sees that the best thing for Skyrim is to rid it of Thalmor influence. Joining the Stormcloaks isn't the best option considering that they are pawns in the Thalmor's schemes and they don't even know it yet. 
The Legion, while appear to be licking the boots of the Thalmor, are plotting to gain a foothold, regain strength and allies, and drive the Thalmor from Skyrim and eventually mainland Tamriel. 
Just my input on this.

Modifié par LegendaryAvenger, 26 novembre 2011 - 07:45 .

[naughty99]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

naughty99 wrote...


In my view this has a lot more to do with your character's background and outlook. For example, if you are playing a Talos worshipping Nord who is bitter about the White Gold Concordat, it would not make much sense to join the Legion IMO.

On the other hand, if you were playing a Dunmer refugee then it would seem much more logical to join the Legion and support Brunwulf Free-Winter to become the Jarl of Windhelm. He stands up for the rights of Dunmer and other races who have immigrated to Skyrim.

In my opinion, the only person who would NOT join the Legion (I'm a bit biased) would be one whose judgement clouded by racial "Patriotism" and pride (In this case, A Nord). My character, an Argonian Battlemage who is a complete outsider, wants the best for the people of Skyrim, whether they be Nordic or immigrant.
Thinking with logic, he sees that the best thing for Skyrim is to rid it of Thalmor influence. Joining the Stormcloaks isn't the best option considering that they are pawns in the Thalmor's schemes and they don't even know it yet. 
The Legion, while appear to be licking the boots of the Thalmor, are plotting to gain a foothold, regain strength and allies, and drive the Thalmor from Skyrim and eventually mainland Tamriel. 
Just my input on this.

Yes, however, there are any number of reasons why my character might have a grudge against the Imperials or view them as the Thalmor's lackeys, even if I (as the player) have other information about what the Imperials are plotting.

Or you could even play as a Thalmor agent, seeking to foment instability and weaken the Empire.

Modifié par naughty99, 26 novembre 2011 - 07:55 .

[AventuroLegendary]

naughty99 wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

naughty99 wrote...


In my view this has a lot more to do with your character's background and outlook. For example, if you are playing a Talos worshipping Nord who is bitter about the White Gold Concordat, it would not make much sense to join the Legion IMO.

On the other hand, if you were playing a Dunmer refugee then it would seem much more logical to join the Legion and support Brunwulf Free-Winter to become the Jarl of Windhelm. He stands up for the rights of Dunmer and other races who have immigrated to Skyrim.

In my opinion, the only person who would NOT join the Legion (I'm a bit biased) would be one whose judgement clouded by racial "Patriotism" and pride (In this case, A Nord). My character, an Argonian Battlemage who is a complete outsider, wants the best for the people of Skyrim, whether they be Nordic or immigrant.
Thinking with logic, he sees that the best thing for Skyrim is to rid it of Thalmor influence. Joining the Stormcloaks isn't the best option considering that they are pawns in the Thalmor's schemes and they don't even know it yet. 
The Legion, while appear to be licking the boots of the Thalmor, are plotting to gain a foothold, regain strength and allies, and drive the Thalmor from Skyrim and eventually mainland Tamriel. 
Just my input on this.

Absolutely, and there are many other reasons why your character might have a grudge against the Imperials or view them as the Thalmor's lackeys.

My character sees the Empire as vicious hounds hateful to their masters and have a chance at redemption, unlike loyal lapdogs. He does, however, have a bit of a grudge against the Legion he once viewed as "Comrades" for allowing themselves to become somewhat violent and extreme.

Modifié par LegendaryAvenger, 26 novembre 2011 - 07:55 .

[Monica83]

The only good thalmor is a dead one... This is what my character think.. A beautyfull nord fighter female with redhair!

[tmp7704]

Paars wrote...

I was playing a Mage at the time, so I could just fireball his face off.

A mage can still swing the shiv good enough -- my character had zero 1h weapon skills and zero magic skills but simply drained/stunned the guy with sparks spell from left hand and hacked to bits whatever health was left.

As a mage you can probably get better magical armour up than the figters, come to think of it.

(of course, for a decent mage fireballs alone are likely to work too ;s

Modifié par tmp7704, 26 novembre 2011 - 08:17 .

[KenKenpachi]

greengoron89 wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

Well damnit they told me to talk to him. Also they took mah Shiv >>

Speak with Madanach and he'll eventually give you a shiv to use on Grisvar the Unlucky. Then just shiv him instead, take his key, and GTFO of there while no one is the wiser.

Or you could just slam a pickaxe in his face - that works just as well.

Have you ever worked for the KGB?

I need to do this now...but meh...Oh well maybe some time later I'll do another run.