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Gurris wrote...

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Ok.  Image IPB  Don't yell.  I occasionally look at the Skyrim forum but not slavishly so.


Sorry about that caps lock. I have spent the whole week reassuring confused people on Bethesda's forum that they will be in the game so I might be a bit tense :P

Heh.  Well yeah, Todd Howard did need to clarify his comments that the only three factions in the game are warrior, mage and thieves' guild.

I try not to follow game hype too closely at this early stage.  it's a long time til November.

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Well, I need to fire up Oblivion again and make a new character it seems. Good, between that and The Shivering Isles which I also haven't played it will take me quite a while and will bring me closer to Skyrim.

I was watching the videos again and thinking more about how duel wielding powers will work, in particular, destruction magicka.

Can you just see having electric shock in your left, flame spray in your right, going shock, shock, shock....spray (turning left and right and smothering enemies with fire.

Being a pure mage will be much more rewarding. I'm a Battle Mage, but I'm thinking of being a pure mage a little more now. In fact...I don't even know. There are to many good paths I can go on, especially with the new perk system

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Addai67 wrote...

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Note some of the concept art. I believe one of them looked like an Argonian.

This guy, right?

Image IPB

I don't think that's an argonian, because I don't see a tail. I read somewhere that each race will have it's own set of armour, so this is probably the Argonian armour.

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Addai67 wrote...

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Come on now,  The stats were pretty superficious.
   I played for Oblivion awhile, but ask me for any of the stats, attributes, or skills of my character? No clue. All the numbers in Oblivion are so irrelevant to the gameplay that you don't really need to visit that part of the menu.

I'm... confused.  You had to pay attention to stats and attributes in order to level.  Your birth sign also factored into gameplay.  You could build a custom class and use any skill you wanted (though you wouldn't level as fast if not building your main skills), but to me this is a good feature in that it allows you to build your character as you want.

On a different note... no Dark Brotherhood faction???  Bethesda, I am disappoint.  I hope there is at least DB-ish armor to be had.

Watch the gameplay trailer. It shows Shrouded Armour at least twice.

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My favorite faction will always be the Thieves Guild. I find enriching myself with loot through sticky fingers is much more satisfying than murder. I look forward to plundering every city and town of everything that's not nailed down. :innocent:

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 12 juin 2011 - 02:01 .


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RymenQwun wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

Note some of the concept art. I believe one of them looked like an Argonian.

This guy, right?

Image IPB

I don't think that's an argonian, because I don't see a tail. I read somewhere that each race will have it's own set of armour, so this is probably the Argonian armour.




Here is the Argonian concept art

Image IPB

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ErichHartmann wrote...

My favorite faction will always be the Thieves Guild. I find enriching myself with loot through sticky fingers is much more satisfying than murder. I look forward to plundering every city and town of everything that's not nailed down. :innocent:


i hated the theves guild until you took orders from the grey fox, what i hated the most was having to sell stuff to fences before the next quest

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J0HNL3I wrote...

ErichHartmann wrote...

My favorite faction will always be the Thieves Guild. I find enriching myself with loot through sticky fingers is much more satisfying than murder. I look forward to plundering every city and town of everything that's not nailed down. :innocent:


i hated the theves guild until you took orders from the grey fox, what i hated the most was having to sell stuff to fences before the next quest


The Gray Fox is a myth and a legend. He doesn't even exist........

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sympathy4saren wrote...

J0HNL3I wrote...

ErichHartmann wrote...

My favorite faction will always be the Thieves Guild. I find enriching myself with loot through sticky fingers is much more satisfying than murder. I look forward to plundering every city and town of everything that's not nailed down. :innocent:


i hated the theves guild until you took orders from the grey fox, what i hated the most was having to sell stuff to fences before the next quest


The Gray Fox is a myth and a legend. He doesn't even exist........


That an in-character joke?

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mrcrusty wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

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ErichHartmann wrote...

My favorite faction will always be the Thieves Guild. I find enriching myself with loot through sticky fingers is much more satisfying than murder. I look forward to plundering every city and town of everything that's not nailed down. :innocent:


i hated the theves guild until you took orders from the grey fox, what i hated the most was having to sell stuff to fences before the next quest


The Gray Fox is a myth and a legend. He doesn't even exist........


That an in-character joke?


Lol it was my attempt at one.

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You broke your character! Fail at roleplay Saren.

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My latest idea is to play an older Gandalf-like character

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sympathy4saren wrote...

My latest idea is to play an older Gandalf-like character


  Me too! I hope we can get wizard robes like Gandalf's and a similar beard. I will walk around weilding my sword and staff going "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!!!".
:wizard:

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Apparently Skyrim was featured on CNN as one of the top 5 games of E3

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Gurris wrote...
AND FOR GODS SAKE! The Dark Brotherhood HAS been confirmed for like five months. They are just not part of the three MAIN factions that influences how the main quests plays out.

Todd Howard should obviously choose his words more carefully. I was also confused with what he said at first.


Ah but have the Dark Brotherhood been confirmed as a joinable faction? I hate to break it to you but there are only 3 main factions and the Dark Brotherhood isnt one of them, of course there is still a small chance that you can join them but I really wouldnt be expecting much more than a 1 quest honorary title or at the very most randomly generated ****kicker quests, if you expect the Dark Brotherhood to play a big role as a joinable faction in Skyrim you are only setting yourself up for disappointment.

But come now are we really that surprised? I mean Oblivion only had 5 main factions outside the main questline so is it that hard to believe that it will be cut back to 3 main joinable factions in Skyrim?

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Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
Ah but have the Dark Brotherhood been confirmed as a joinable faction? I hate to break it to you but there are only 3 main factions and the Dark Brotherhood isnt one of them, of course there is still a small chance that you can join them but I really wouldnt be expecting much more than a 1 quest honorary title or at the very most randomly generated ****kicker quests, if you expect the Dark Brotherhood to play a big role as a joinable faction in Skyrim you are only setting yourself up for disappointment.

But come now are we really that surprised? I mean Oblivion only had 5 main factions outside the main questline so is it that hard to believe that it will be cut back to 3 main joinable factions in Skyrim?


Where did it say that the Dark Brotherhood won't have an extensive questline?

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monkeycamoran wrote...

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Ah but have the Dark Brotherhood been confirmed as a joinable faction? I hate to break it to you but there are only 3 main factions and the Dark Brotherhood isnt one of them, of course there is still a small chance that you can join them but I really wouldnt be expecting much more than a 1 quest honorary title or at the very most randomly generated ****kicker quests, if you expect the Dark Brotherhood to play a big role as a joinable faction in Skyrim you are only setting yourself up for disappointment.

But come now are we really that surprised? I mean Oblivion only had 5 main factions outside the main questline so is it that hard to believe that it will be cut back to 3 main joinable factions in Skyrim?


Where did it say that the Dark Brotherhood won't have an extensive questline?


Where did it say that they will? The burden of proof is on you my friend.

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 12 juin 2011 - 08:28 .


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No Dark Drotherhood? Seriously? Are they f*cking mad!? Dark Brotherhood was the best content in the game.

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 juin 2011 - 08:31 .


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No Dark Drotherhood? Seriously? Are they f*cking mad!? Dark Brotherhood was the best content in the game.


Dark Brotherhood is confirmed, 100%.

(Confirmed back in January, it was actually the first guild announced.)

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naughty99 wrote...

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No Dark Drotherhood? Seriously? Are they f*cking mad!? Dark Brotherhood was the best content in the game.


Dark Brotherhood is confirmed, 100%.

(Confirmed back in January, it was actually the first guild announced.)


That's a relief. :wizard:

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 juin 2011 - 08:53 .


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sympathy4saren wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

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My favorite faction will always be the Thieves Guild. I find enriching myself with loot through sticky fingers is much more satisfying than murder. I look forward to plundering every city and town of everything that's not nailed down. :innocent:


i hated the theves guild until you took orders from the grey fox, what i hated the most was having to sell stuff to fences before the next quest


The Gray Fox is a myth and a legend. He doesn't even exist........


That an in-character joke?


Lol it was my attempt at one.


Hahaha i was about 6 steps ahead when it came to the quests and premotions, i was just nicking everything in sight :pinched:

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naughty99 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

No Dark Drotherhood? Seriously? Are they f*cking mad!? Dark Brotherhood was the best content in the game.


Dark Brotherhood is confirmed, 100%.

(Confirmed back in January, it was actually the first guild announced.)


Yes the Dark Brotherhood is in Skyrim however nothing has been said on whether or not you can join them.

For all we know they could be an enemy faction like they were in Tribunal and since it has been confirmed that there is only 3 main joinable factions unless the Dark Brotherhood are an enemy faction odds are they wont be playing a big role in Skyrim.

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Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

No Dark Drotherhood? Seriously? Are they f*cking mad!? Dark Brotherhood was the best content in the game.


Dark Brotherhood is confirmed, 100%.

(Confirmed back in January, it was actually the first guild announced.)


Yes the Dark Brotherhood is in Skyrim however nothing has been said on whether or not you can join them.

For all we know they could be an enemy faction like they were in Tribunal and since it has been confirmed that there is only 3 main joinable factions unless the Dark Brotherhood are an enemy faction odds are they wont be playing a big role in Skyrim.


That's speculation. Anything is possible, but it would be extremely surprising for the devs to make non-joinable the faction famous for the most well-written quest in any TES game, and IMO most well-written quest in any RPG I've ever played.

In Oblivion, the three "main" guild factions for warrior, mage and thief classes were the Fighter's Guild, Mage's Guild, Thieves' Guild. There were also a few other joinable factions.

Given that the game is set against the backdrop of a civil war, it would also be very surprising if there was no Rebel faction and Loyalist faction.

Since each of the nine holds has a separate trackable bounty system and is ruled by nine separate clans confirmed in interviews to have distinct individual cultural and design motifs, it would not surprise me if each of these clans is a separate joinable faction as well, or perhaps some of the clans are Loyalist and others are members of a Rebel group.

- There is a new faction system in the game, which the team at Bethesda will be talking about very soon-ish. These "factions" are apparently not the likes we know from Oblivion, such as the Dark Brotherhood. This system runs "deeper". Potentially like the Great Houses in Morrowind.
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naughty99 wrote...
That's speculation.


You want to know what else is speculation? Saying that the Dark Brotherhood will be a joinable faction, just sayin.

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 12 juin 2011 - 09:36 .


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Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

naughty99 wrote...
That's speculation.


You want to know what else is speculation? Saying that the Dark Brotherhood will be a joinable faction, just sayin.


absolutely.  as I mentioned above, anything is possible but personally I would be extremely shocked if they were not joinable.

Hopefully we'll know a lot more later this week when Todd answers the questions from the Skyrim Fan Interview.

Modifié par naughty99, 12 juin 2011 - 09:41 .