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[DragonRageGT]

Eiia wrote...

Been taking a break from Skyrim lately, played around 50 hours or so. Sure the game seems awesome in the beginning, but after a while it felt pretty empty.
A part from exploration and the world itself I can't see what would make this game a perfect ten.
I would rate it around 7/10. Still a good game, but not magnificent or anything like that.

As that Judge in a The Good Wife episode would say,  "You forgot something. You have to say, in your opinion."

There's one word that says it all about why this game is a perfect ten for me:  Freeeeeedom!

[DragonRageGT]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

RageGT wrote...

chunkyman wrote...

Watch This, It's Funny!

Yeah, yeah... it's pretty funny. It's always funny until you fight this(these) guy(s) in the game:

TES V - Skyrim - Fus-Ro-Dah VS Fu-bar

That's a coincidence. I just did that quest. I had more luck there with sneaking and a bow than the guy in the clip.

On my way to Saarthal now.

Well, at least the guy in the clip got his soul as a payback! hehe

[Brockololly]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

I'll have to catch up with my brothers on the next playthrough.  This current guy is way too much of a boy scout anyway.

My PC started out as a boy scout but has had way too much fun sneaking up on people and slitting their throats with his DB bros. :happy:

So I finally figured I'd have my guy get married to Mjoll but had to take care of Aerin first, Dark Brotherhood style. Aerin is currently floating around in Riften:ph34r:

[happy_daiz]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

Anyone know when the DLC's for Xbox 360 will be coming out?
I wanna see if we can go to Cyrodill or somewhere exciting since Cyrodill is highly talkable with the townsfolk and in books around. Or at least be able to go to Bravil and/or Imperial City.

I think that already came out - it's called Oblivion.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 06 décembre 2011 - 10:54 .

[KJandrew]

What happened at Karthwasten?

[AngryFrozenWater]

To the poster who said Skyrim is empty: Some said that in Oblivion you stumbled on caves, forts, etc., around every corner, and that the world gradually became empty. So this time they have given it more space in between. I think there is quest content for about 200 hours, but I think it is more close to 300. And that's only the handwritten stuff. There are also computer generated quests and there are an infinite number of those. So, no. Skyrim is anything but empty. If you think you have seen it all after 50 hours then you're looking in the wrong places.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 06 décembre 2011 - 11:10 .

[Costin_Razvan]

 The Emperor is dead! Hail the Empress heh. Shame your PC can't take over, oh well.

Killing the Emperor

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 06 décembre 2011 - 11:12 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Brockololly wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

I'll have to catch up with my brothers on the next playthrough.  This current guy is way too much of a boy scout anyway.

My PC started out as a boy scout but has had way too much fun sneaking up on people and slitting their throats with his DB bros. :happy:

So I finally figured I'd have my guy get married to Mjoll but had to take care of Aerin first, Dark Brotherhood style. Aerin is currently floating around in Riften:ph34r:

Yay Mjoll!   Not to mention daily coin and a cooked meal are pretty good fringes, huh?

LOL on Aerin.  I side-stepped an ever-increasing and gnawing need to out-and-out whack him, by just continuing to take Mjoll as my follower, as well as wife.  Funny thing, with Mjoll as wife/follower, Aerin is nowhere to be found, not even at the house we moved into.  He's probably sitting in the house in Riften...good place for him...especially if he wants to keep breathing.

[Addai]

Eiia wrote...

Been taking a break from Skyrim lately, played around 50 hours or so. Sure the game seems awesome in the beginning, but after a while it felt pretty empty.
A part from exploration and the world itself I can't see what would make this game a perfect ten.
I would rate it around 7/10. Still a good game, but not magnificent or anything like that.

Do I even want to ask what game you consider 10/10?  Because if Skyrim is not it, then I can't imagine what it would be.

[Addai]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I kind of wish dragons were harder to kill.

I mean honestly dungeon bosses are harder to beat down than they are.

I thought that, until I started encountering Elder Dragons who can kill me in one fatal crunch.  I think at times your equipment and abilities can overmatch them but eventually as you level, you lose that advantage.

[Addai]

Yrkoon wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
I've got a bunch of useless junk in my inventory that's considered quest items so I can't get rid of it.  I can't loot a Briar Heart because they just sit there but I have no option to give it to... I forget who needs one, maybe the White Phial guy.

Briar hearts are alchemy ingredients.  If you can't  sell them, just eat them.  or make potions out of them.

If that quest is open, you can't do anything with them.  I've tried. 

[Johnsen1972]

xkg wrote...

hehehe no. Did you close the console after typing disable ? Do not close it, type enable immediately after "disable".
and look around - because she can appear behind you and will walk away (because you have dismissed her)

In case of any troubles use this chain of commands (this is for Lydia only):

prid A2C94
disable
enable
moveto player

Made a video guide to level your companions 
My Lydia is much stronger now!

[AventuroLegendary]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

 The Emperor is dead! Hail the Empress heh. Shame your PC can't take over, oh well.

Killing the Emperor

You shall be punished for killing the EMPRAH, heretic!
Long live the Imperi- I mean, EMPIRE!

[AventuroLegendary]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

Anyone know when the DLC's for Xbox 360 will be coming out?
I wanna see if we can go to Cyrodill or somewhere exciting since Cyrodill is highly talkable with the townsfolk and in books around. Or at least be able to go to Bravil and/or Imperial City.

I think that already came out - it's called Oblivion.

I already have Oblivion :innocent:

I am speaking about DLC wise. 

I don't think they would redesign Cyrodil. Although, it would be interesting to see the ruins after WWI (In Tamriel). I wonder what will happen DLC wise. Whatever it is, I want it to be about ending Thalmor influence and another DLC to invade Alinor/Summerset Isle. Nothin' like killing Thalmor.  
Also... HORSE ARMOR FTW!

[Brockololly]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...
LOL on Aerin.  I side-stepped an ever-increasing and gnawing need to out-and-out whack him, by just continuing to take Mjoll as my follower, as well as wife.  Funny thing, with Mjoll as wife/follower, Aerin is nowhere to be found, not even at the house we moved into.  He's probably sitting in the house in Riften...good place for him...especially if he wants to keep breathing.

I think what I read was that he'll follow Mjoll around if you don't have her as a follower and she's in your house, but that he travels to wherever Mjoll is in real time, so he's probably somewhere out in the wilds. Maybe a dragon ate him.

And the first time I killed him in his house I didn't realize Mjoll was in there too, so she stopped talking to me and then ran outside and screamed for the guards but no one came. That made me feel sort of bad....so I just made sure she was waiting outside Riften when I reloaded, killed Aerin in his sleep, reanimated him and led him down to the water where he self destructed into a pile of ash. And Mjoll will never have to know! And I guess she also doesn't realize my PC is in deep with the Thieve's Guild either...

[ReallyRue]

So, I take it that vampires can't become werewolves and thus can't complete the Companions questline? I wish they'd made that a bit clearer in the quest, instead of my character trying to drink from the pool in the Underforge a few times, nothing happening and then me wondering if it's just Ribena or something instead.

Addai67 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I kind of wish dragons were harder to kill.

I mean honestly dungeon bosses are harder to beat down than they are.

I thought that, until I started encountering Elder Dragons who can kill me in one fatal crunch.  I think at times your equipment and abilities can overmatch them but eventually as you level, you lose that advantage.

Same here. I thought the dragons were easy until one of those Elder ones ate me. And then had the nerve to spit me back out, over the side of a cliff.

[Hrungr]

Whew... after 180-odd hours I finally wrapped up my first (and likely only) run through Skyrim.

It's been so long since I played Oblivion I'd forgotten the joys of running (and running... and running...) across a massive (and utterly gorgeous) game-world. The amount of effort that went into generating content for this game must have been staggering. And just thinking about all the text in the game makes my head spin. Enjoyed the main questlines well enough, the final chapter in the Aduin quest being the strongest.

But as a hardcore DA fan, it's so shallow... I think if I'd never played DA it might have at least been less glaring. So I got as much out of it as I wanted (and at 180-odd hours made it well worth the money) but there's no real impetuous to revisit it.

Overall: 8/10.

Modifié par Hrungr, 07 décembre 2011 - 02:17 .

[Pacifien]

Right, so I gave Barbas back to his master. As fun as it was to have a dog who killed everyone and never died, I've got this Breton who put her life in the hands of the Nine Divines which led her to Skyrim. She thinks she's supposed to learn magic at the College of Winterhold, but then somebody said she was the Dragonborn. She made it all the way to Ivarstead.

This is actually my second time through Skyrim. I had to take a break for over a week due to Thanksgiving travels and Assassin's Creed Revelations, which I took as a prime opportunity to start over. And one quest line I purposely avoided was the drinking contest. It didn't fit with my other character. But I made it to Ivarstead, then I got into a drinking contest, and that put me way the hell on the other side of Skyrim.

Not that in 100 hours of gameplay I've gotten any further in the main quest than simply meeting Delphine, but I imagine the drinking contest meets the main quest in terms of length. I just do, I just get that feeling.

[Addai]

After seeing the Dark Brotherhood armor, I think my assassin is going to join the Thieves' Guild just for the clothes. I loved the DB armor in Oblivion- that might be my favorite armor in any game I've played- but the ninja stuff is a little crass.

[Yrkoon]

Hrungr wrote...
But as a hardcore DA fan, it's so shallow... I think if I'd never played DA it might have at least been less glaring. So I got as much out of it as I wanted (and at 180-odd hours made it well worth the money) but there's no real impetuous to revisit it.

Overall: 8/10.

When some  'hardcore'  DA fans claim Skyrim is "so shallow", I can never understand what they mean. There are 5 different types of Butterflies in this game for gods sake. There are 8 different steps to upgrading a weapon. There are dozens of cities, towns and villages to visit. There are more than 150  of wildly diverse dungeons. There are dozens upon dozens of multi-page books you can read... page by page. There are 5 homes you can buy, then furnish. There are 10 races to choose from. Alchemy is at least twice as deep the entire spell-casting system in Dragon Age. And that's just alchemy.... a minor feature in Skyrim.

You can join and lead several different factions in this game and do quests for them that will eat up more than 100 hours of game time by themselves. You can walk up to a shelf in this game and spend 20 minutes exploring it, gathering what's on it, reading the books it contains etc. You can jump in a river and spend hours exploring under water. You can climb mountains, ride horses, leap off cliffs, cook a dinner then eat it.

Picking locks is something you actually have to manually do in this game (as opposed to just taking some skills and then clicking on a lock once to open it, like in DA.  You looking for shallow?  the DA lockpicking system is what shallow is.)

^ all of this  does not fit the standard english definition of shallow... at all. Does it. In fact, it's the opposite of shallow. It's deep. Detailed to mind blowing proportions.

Perhaps what these people are trying to say is that companions and companion interaction in Skyrim is shallow compared to DA. And while this is true, it's a completely DIFFERENT claim.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 07 décembre 2011 - 03:27 .

[Veex]

Yrkoon wrote...

When some  'hardcore'  DA fans claim Skyrim is "so shallow", I can never understand what they mean.

Perhaps what these people are trying to say is that companions and companion interaction in Skyrim is shallow compared to DA. And while this is true, it's a completely DIFFERENT claim.

I think you answered your own question. Mechanically and in terms of world detail and interactivity Skyrim is the better game by leaps and bounds. However, in terms of narrative depth and character detail I'd personally agree that Dragon Age is the superior game.

If I could smash a driven BioWare style main arc into a Bethasda world I'd be a happy camper.

[Fishy]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

To the poster who said Skyrim is empty: Some said that in Oblivion you stumbled on caves, forts, etc., around every corner, and that the world gradually became empty. So this time they have given it more space in between. I think there is quest content for about 200 hours, but I think it is more close to 300. And that's only the handwritten stuff. There are also computer generated quests and there are an infinite number of those. So, no. Skyrim is anything but empty. If you think you have seen it all after 50 hours then you're looking in the wrong places.

I don't really blame him. Game like Skyrim are a rarity . Most videogame today have very strong narrative A la Michael Bay and after 7 hours you put it on the dusty table and forget about it. Skyrim ain't for everyone. Skyrim does not have that 'instant gratification' that most game have today.

They start 'roaming' and expect some cinematic popping at anytime and end up dissapointed . They won't walk if they aren't  forced and won't listen if it's not in the script .. They want the 'narration' . Narration it's not a bad thing but we're flooded by it and Skyrim is completetly what I wanted.