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[Costin_Razvan]

They approached him after Markarth and he told them to **** off. Where is the manipulation?

That incident occurred because of them. That's the manipulation.

[Addai]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

They approached him after Markarth and he told them to **** off. Where is the manipulation?

That incident occurred because of them. That's the manipulation.

So they claim- but it was the imperials who sold Ulfric out after he won the city, imprisoning him and his men.  So who's really being manipulated?

Modifié par Addai67, 12 décembre 2011 - 03:58 .

[Addai]

The Markarth house does have an enchanting table option. I like it, probably my 2nd favorite abode after Hjerim in Windhelm.  It's a bit smaller than Hjerim, fewer armor and weapon racks and stuff.  There are a lot of skulls around but you could clean those up. 

I haven't gotten the Riften house yet so not sure how it compares to that. How do you get the Riften house anyway??

Modifié par Addai67, 12 décembre 2011 - 04:38 .

[Addai]

greengoron89 wrote...

There are a lot of "shadow games" going on in the background that we the players aren't privy to - but perhaps we will be later on. I certainly hope so, because for the first time in TES history, the storyline has me highly intrigued.

I saw someone on Twitter praising it as being "more Game of Thrones this time."  I guess that's only praise if you like GRRM.

[YouthCultureForever]

Addai67 wrote...

The Markarth house does have an enchanting table option. I like it, probably my 2nd favorite abode after Hjerim in Windhelm.  It's a bit smaller than Hjerim, fewer armor and weapon racks and stuff.  There are a lot of skulls around but you could clean those up. 

I haven't gotten the Riften house yet so not sure how it compares to that. How do you get the Riften house anyway??

You have to talk to an Argonian dock worker about her skooma addiction. First give her a healing potion or a potion of cure disease then talk to her again about the skooma source. Next talk to Jarl Law-Giver and from there it becomes a straight forward miscellaneous quest.

Modifié par YouthCultureForever, 12 décembre 2011 - 04:43 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Addai67 wrote...

The Markarth house does have an enchanting table option. I like it, probably my 2nd favorite abode after Hjerim in Windhelm.  It's a bit smaller than Hjerim, fewer armor and weapon racks and stuff.  There are a lot of skulls around but you could clean those up. 

I haven't gotten the Riften house yet so not sure how it compares to that. How do you get the Riften house anyway??

The Riften house is nice, but not as nice as the Solitude one. However its much cheaper. Has a nice basement work area with alchemy, enchanting and mannekins.

To get the house, help an argonian lass at the docks/Fishery with her Skooma problems. After that approach the Jarl about the Skooma situation and the plot is easy enough to follow from there. Once thats done, and if you've done a few random quests around town you'll be able to buy a house and become a thane.

Bug warning though. Buy the house, then talk to the Jarly immediately after to get Thane status. Do not visit or decorate the home until you do so. Otherwise becoming Thane can get bugged and you wont get Iona, your housecarl.

[Sigma Tauri]

Addai67 wrote...
The Nords' suspicion of magic must also be new, and is more of an inclination than a tradition.  All the jarls have court wizards and some of the draugr are battle mages, so that isn't something recent.

Jeez...have any of you played Morrowind?

People can separate magic out of cultural convenience. The Dunmer practiced necromancy with their dead, often tying them to tombs to become bone walkers and guardians. However, they hunted necromancers or practictioners of "Western magic."

The Redguards have forms of magic that's considered acceptable. "Eastern magics" on the other hand are considered "tobr'a" or useless and therefore evil.

The Nordic tradition of thu'um is only acceptable because of their association wth Kyne. Here's what the First Pocket Guide, the basis of Skyrim, says about thu'um:


The Nords have long practiced a spiritual form of magic known as "The
Way of the Voice", based largely on their veneration of the Wind as the
personification of Kynareth. Nords consider themselves to be the
children of the sky, and the breath and the voice of a Nord is his vital
essence.

Even Farengar Secret-Fire calls it a form of magic.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:42 .

[Sigma Tauri]

Nashiktal wrote...
who has any defence against the words of power?

The Imperials. They gagged Ulfric in the beginning.

So did Vivec...with his Milk Finger and an ebony listening frame.

[Avilia]

The Riften house is creepy - those dummies in the basement move. Sometimes while my char is in there crafting.

Its, unsettling, to say the least to suddenly find a supposedly inanimate object peering over her shoulder while she enchants.

[Redneck1st]

@GreenGoron and the rest for which are debating the Storm cloak and imperial Civil war. The way for which I see it neither one of them are truly to blame for the civil war if you truly step back and look at the whole picture. It's the Thalmor themselves. And Green I would love to see a DLC for which you mentioned as well one that we could end the presence of the Thalmor for good once and for all.

Now if you remember back in the very begining when we were first starting out and we were being attacted at times by assasins? You know who I believe hired those assasins? I myself believe it was the Thalmor and they were worried about the return of a Dragonborn. Why I've yet to figure out. But I hope as I play the game more it will come out and prove me right. I do know that every chance I get when I am out and about in skyrim and I see the Thalmor with a prisoner I usually kill the Thalmor and free the prisoner.<G>

EDIT:

@Avila I never had them armor racks move in any of my houses that have them to be honest with  you there. And I've got two of my houses that have them.

Modifié par Redneck1st, 12 décembre 2011 - 07:51 .

[Redneck1st]

Addai67 wrote...

The Markarth house does have an enchanting table option. I like it, probably my 2nd favorite abode after Hjerim in Windhelm.  It's a bit smaller than Hjerim, fewer armor and weapon racks and stuff.  There are a lot of skulls around but you could clean those up. 

I haven't gotten the Riften house yet so not sure how it compares to that. How do you get the Riften house anyway??

You get it pretty much the same way go to the the palace area and there is a quest or two for which you need to do and then you will be offered the chance to buy a home there and become Thane. So far I've got a house in Solitude, one in Whiterun and one in Riften. With as much gold as I've got might as well buy one and be thane in every hold. After all why have all that gold and not spend it? Even with buying the three houses and all the upgrades I'm still running around with over 500k in septums. I only carry one healing potions and one potion of cure disease on me. After all the healing potion I carry restores 100pts and it refills by itself. Got from a quest I got in Windhelm from one of the shops by the same name. There is two parts to the quest but I think it's worth doing

[Addai]

Cutlass Jack wrote...
The Riften house is nice, but not as nice as the Solitude one. However its much cheaper. Has a nice basement work area with alchemy, enchanting and mannekins.

To get the house, help an argonian lass at the docks/Fishery with her Skooma problems. After that approach the Jarl about the Skooma situation and the plot is easy enough to follow from there. Once thats done, and if you've done a few random quests around town you'll be able to buy a house and become a thane.

Bug warning though. Buy the house, then talk to the Jarly immediately after to get Thane status. Do not visit or decorate the home until you do so. Otherwise becoming Thane can get bugged and you wont get Iona, your housecarl.

Oh, I didn't see your warning before I got it, and I did get that bug.  Oh well, that is one bug I can live with.  The "my thane" business gets old and in a small house they just get in the way.

I like the house a lot.  It reminds me of my Leyawiin house in Oblivion, which was my assassin's home base.  The seedy side is nice for a change.    I just love playing a sneak.  So many pretty baubles around that you miss out on otherwise.

I do have to say, I preferred the houses in Oblivion.  I never thought I would miss the hours of frustrating, exacting placement of books in shelves and food on tables.  Now all that's done for you, but the houses just don't feel as much "mine."  There's also a lot of empty space that goes unused since any time I try to place stuff myself, it gets scattered around the next time I come in.  I never know where my Moth in a Jar is going to end up next.


I talked about the hot guys in the Thieves' Guild and how nice and friendly they are, but dude, there are limits.  lol

Modifié par Addai67, 12 décembre 2011 - 08:08 .

[Addai]

monkeycamoran wrote...
Jeez...have any of you played Morrowind?

No?  So sue me.

I tried to play it, but the graphics and gameplay are too primitive compared to what I'm used to.

Anyway, you're basically saying what I said- that the thu'um is a form of magic, and the Nords' suspicion of magic is not absolute.

[Avilia]

Redneck1st wrote...
@Avila I never had them armor racks move in any of my houses that have them to be honest with  you there. And I've got two of my houses that have them. 

Its a weird one.  It only happens in the Riften house.  I half wondered if it was deliberate but now I think its just an odd graphics bug.  They are the only two things that appear to move about though and its darn creepy.

I took pics to show I'm not nuts (I've since put clothes on them but this is the first time I noticed it):







My Riften house is haunted - perhaps the Sithis found out about the other Daedra I've been doing favours for and is showing his displeasure 

[Redneck1st]

@FallToo- Will have to admit that the house looks great to be honest with you there. But will it allow me to put the dagger in the case even thogh it's still marked as a quest Item? After all it sure wont allow me to put it in any chest that I've got in any of my homes or on one of my wall plaques.

@AngryFrozenwater Will have to agree with you on the Orc in the Mage College. He's funny. I also like it when you ask him what he's got for sale and he says "Just make sure that your hands are clean"

[Addai]

Okay, that is creepy.

BTW I just read on Bethsoft that if you drop stuff on the floor, leave and come back, you can place it without it moving around. I haven't tried it yet. They also say never to save or load from your house or it will strew stuff around.

[DragonRageGT]

Avilia wrote...
Its a weird one.  It only happens in the Riften house.  I half wondered if it was deliberate but now I think its just an odd graphics bug.  They are the only two things that appear to move about though and its darn creepy.

I took pics to show I'm not nuts (I've since put clothes on them but this is the first time I noticed it):

...

My Riften house is haunted - perhaps the Sithis found out about the other Daedra I've been doing favours for and is showing his displeasure 

No kidding! Fortunately, re-entering the house resets it. I had those two manequins hanging from the roof once! I couldn't help but think of the Dragon Age II effect. =)

[Dreadstruck]

Mr.House wrote...
Enjoy being a puppet

Yeah well, whatever floats your boat.:innocent:

I'll remind you when I'll be standing on a pile of Thalmor and Stormfront Stormcloak corpses along with mah Imperial mates.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 12 décembre 2011 - 10:42 .

[DragonRageGT]

hmm... this "new" run (already over 100 hrs ald level 50) has seen a lot less Dragon attacks than the first one. I've only collected 14 Dragon Souls compared to some 30 at level 30 with the other char. But I've only spent them on shouts that I have at least level 2. And I have level 3 in two shouts I like to use. Icy form and Marked for Death. =) (I don't use any guides so I get the shouts randomly since I can't really remember locations from first run!)

Time to go Dragon Hunting again... Oh... and at level 50, I'm about to go visiting Markarth for the first time! LOL

[AngryFrozenWater]

About the haunted house... The mannequins are probably designed as regular characters without movement, but they probably forgot a setting to make that work. In Oblivion something like that happened when I encountered a dead mage on the bottom of a well. He slowly moved. I could start a conversation with him, although that didn't really work because he had no topics.

[Morroian]

RageGT wrote...

hmm... this "new" run (already over 100 hrs ald level 50) has seen a lot less Dragon attacks than the first one. I've only collected 14 Dragon Souls compared to some 30 at level 30 with the other char. But I've only spent them on shouts that I have at least level 2. And I have level 3 in two shouts I like to use. Icy form and Marked for Death. =) (I don't use any guides so I get the shouts randomly since I can't really remember locations from first run!)
 

I've only done 1 run so far but IMHO the frequency of dragon attacks has definitely dropped over that run.