Mecha Tengu wrote...
Barbarossa2010 wrote...
greengoron89 wrote...
I don't think it's about the way I'm playing my characters - it's just the sheer size of the game is a little overwhelming at times. It's easy to end up with too much on your plate in the game and get a little stressed out trying to handle it all...
...just like in real life, to be honest. Lulz.
Right. I remember doing preparation for Smithing-up some weapons and armor...an hour later, I'm still "preparing." I've finally got to the point that good enough is, in fact, good enough.
I'm working on remembering that this game is about having fun, discovering, exploring, and kicking butt. I'm trying to let the chores and the ridiculous notion that I have to micromanage everything, just slide away. I've been having alot more fun since.
urgh you casual gamer
part of an RPG is the micro managerment and tactical customization. It's a shame that video games today are being catered to the type of people that can't sit down and immerse themselves with puzzles or strategy, because people want ACTION BUTTON RAMPAGe.
Oh my gosh, had no intention of starting a debate about casual vice complexity...AT ALL. Casual gamer? Ahh, stab me in the heart next time! Obviously I wasn't clear, and left enough open room to be pounded into the "you're a casual gamer turd, hence worthy of derision" slot.
In fact, I'm no fan at all of casual gaming. I want to obsess over the details, and Skyrim has that in spades. My point was in reply to Greengoron who was discussing his issue with that slight feeling of stress in the game (sort of like real life), and I was using my "preparation" time for getting ready to smith-up some weapons and armor, as an example of the chore I was personally making it out to be. Because of my personality, I had to back-off slightly and quit worrying over 6 more points of armor rating, so I could get out in the world. That's all. I still want the high f-in armor rating mind you.
My only point really is that with Skyrim, I've found (FOR ME) that I don't ABSOLUTELY have to have a necklace with +40% damage on one-handed when I have one with +35%, and I don't ABSOLUTELY have to eek out an addition +6 for my armor rating. For those that want to obsess over such things, they should. I read Rage's and Yrkoon's comments and think, "how do they do that?" Either way, it's great. That's the beauty of Skyrim, you can obsess over the details of armor rating, enhancements, etc...or forego it. That's the mark of a great game. That's what makes it appealling to so many people. That's why Skyrim thumped the dog snot out of DA2. Bethesda's solution was not to throw out everything, but make things like crafting significantly better, alluring, fun...and virtually 100% optional. You want to invest in smithing and enchanting you will be rewarded handsomely, you want to forego it all and just play, fight and explore, you can do that too..."oh, btw, here's a few trinkets scatterred throughout these dungeons and caves to help you along to noob or lazy person.
Don't take what I was saying as some sort of half-assed argument for more f-in "streamlining" in the genre. I personally thought DA2 was a mess because of it, especially when compared to its far superior predecessor. Bethesda, has in fact restored much of my faith in the RPG genre that I have only recently come to in the past couple of years. I am very happy that they are being radically rewarded for swimming against the tide and packing their game to the brim with an amazing amount of content and activity.
@Greengoron, smithing was just an example I was using. I've enjoyed it immensely. Evidently I started tangents, through a lack of clarity, by empathizing with your experience.
Hope that clarifies my position. I'm on your side complexity lovers. I'm an ally. But if you're looking for boogeymen and "ememies," or I'm suddenly worthy of disdain, or am considered a "casual" gamer and dimwit, because I might play on a 360, and respond to some small comment with a little general empathy, well, I suppose we can go in that direction as well...as stupid and wrong-headed as it would be.
EDIT: Better yet, no. This is all I have to say on the subject. This is one of the few threads I actually enjoy on BSN anymore, especially after the disaster of DA2, and don't want to see it locked-down for non-arguments.
Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 18 décembre 2011 - 07:53 .