Modifié par LegendaryAvenger, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:21 .
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Discussion Thread
#14651
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 12:21
#14652
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 12:25
WHY 4 NOBODY ANSWER QUESTIONDRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...
DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...
Quick question:
I want to know, is there anyway to decrease the cost of the Solitude Manor, paid 25k for it lol. Just wondering before I play my next marathon is there anyway to get the cost reduced so as to save some gold, or was my 25k investment what stands. Thanks.
Still looking for an answer...NO SPOILERS PRESENT IN Q nor should any be in A...also Skyrim is like real life with the exception of the dragons and all...but its a true adventurer's paradise...I just wish everyone wouldn't talk to you when you walk within a certain distance of them...lol...that and EVERYONE has something for you to do.
#14653
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 12:30
DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...
WHY 4 NOBODY ANSWER QUESTIONDRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...
DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...
Quick question:
I want to know, is there anyway to decrease the cost of the Solitude Manor, paid 25k for it lol. Just wondering before I play my next marathon is there anyway to get the cost reduced so as to save some gold, or was my 25k investment what stands. Thanks.
Still looking for an answer...NO SPOILERS PRESENT IN Q nor should any be in A...also Skyrim is like real life with the exception of the dragons and all...but its a true adventurer's paradise...I just wish everyone wouldn't talk to you when you walk within a certain distance of them...lol...that and EVERYONE has something for you to do.
Maybe because no one found a way to decrease the price of the house?
Seriously I've found no way to do it.
#14654
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 12:39
#14655
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 12:48
1136342t54 wrote...
Monica83 wrote...
1136342t54 wrote...
Addai67 wrote...
And of course none of that is mandatory. You make enough gold to get by with quest rewards that you don't even need to pick up every fur boot and steel gauntlet in a dungeon.
People make the game what they want it to be.
It depends. Do you want that 600 damage Daedric Legendary sword that has multiple enchantments? Then you would have to do a lot of smithing and enchanting. Either that or pay your way to level 100 smithing and enchanting then level your abilities up respectively with the perks you get. I'm sorry but even getting that much money to do that is difficult as all hell since you have to spend more and more money for every single level. It isn't mandatory but most players who play this game will want that **** awesome weapon that they can make.
It isn't even mandatory to take everything with you but many people who play Bethesda games like to horde equipment non stop and it sometimes get annoying to the point where you might as well mod your game so you have unlimited storage.
Well and it's right from my poin of wiew if you want great gear you have to learn how to make it is like a prize..In fact i hated in oblivion the fact at higher level you find bandit with armors like full deaedric with high enhanced weapons.. For me this is a improvment and make things less easer..
But again it's not necessary to have crafting skill you can enjoy the game also whitout it..
What i want say is skyrim can statisfate different kind of player for example..
You don't like to micromanage? Well you don't need to you are able to play even whitout crafting for sure you don't have higher powerfull weapons but you are able not only to afford all ennemy but you have the chance to find enhanced weapons on ennemy.. But at difference from oblivion there are a more rare....
You love to plan things and prepare to the battle? you can and in a very efficent manner by raising your crafting skill and make your own stuff..
Who put effort on crafting must have advantages or crafting is useless..
But the thing that ****** me off is people that complain that crafting is present and necessary to have ultra powerfull weapon.. Its useless to complain that because ok you don't like it but who spends perks on crafting deserves to have a prize in this case more powerfull items..
If you raise too much crafting instead of the combat skills your game will become more harder because even if you have strong stuff you face strong ennemy and you have not the efficent combat skill to afford them...
You can make a daedric armor but if you have not skills or perk to wear it its a bit useless..
So.. complain about the presence of micromanagement is pretty useless
You can also find and pay npc to train you if you don't want reaise them by yourself
This isn't complaining this is stating how it can get tedious (it is a lie to say it can't be). Also I addressed the whole paying for the skills. That can easily leave you broke very quickly. I like the smithing but it isn't something that is continuosly enjoyable. Its more akin to ME2 mining. While it isn't really bad to me and sometimes I rather just depelete planets than go out into the galaxy but when you want those upgrades it takes a crap load of time. The only difference is you don't gain experience through mining.
ok now i see your point of wiew but just for clarification not here i presume.. But really someone maded complain like
This game is too much big
Why i must craft to have better item
Thos complain can't be serious lol...
But if someone like you say me that sometimes is tedious raise craftable skill or also even smithing i say.. Yes sometimes is... like you have to creaft the daedric armor and you don't know how to find daedra heart's but.. Say that is a thing if someone say.. I don't like it should never existed i laught..
Again is a feature and its not mandatory you can enjoy it or not.. and yes sometimes is tedious but you can have great reward if you spend time on them like it should be..
Modifié par Monica83, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:50 .
#14656
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 12:57
We are once again talking about people complaining about doing things they don't have to do to play the game but do just because they want something.1136342t54 wrote...
It depends. Do you want that 600 damage Daedric Legendary sword that has multiple enchantments? Then you would have to do a lot of smithing and enchanting. Either that or pay your way to level 100 smithing and enchanting then level your abilities up respectively with the perks you get. I'm sorry but even getting that much money to do that is difficult as all hell since you have to spend more and more money for every single level. It isn't mandatory but most players who play this game will want that **** awesome weapon that they can make.
It isn't even mandatory to take everything with you but many people who play Bethesda games like to horde equipment non stop and it sometimes get annoying to the point where you might as well mod your game so you have unlimited storage.
Sympathy level... zero.
Modifié par Addai67, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:58 .
#14657
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 12:59
DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...
Quick question:
I want to know, is there anyway to decrease the cost of the Solitude Manor, paid 25k for it lol. Just wondering before I play my next marathon is there anyway to get the cost reduced so as to save some gold, or was my 25k investment what stands. Thanks.
If you're really desperate you can use exploit.
When they ask you if you want to buy a new home - right after you reply "I'll take it" open some near drawer and put all your money there. After the convo ends take your money back
Here is example:
Modifié par xkg, 19 décembre 2011 - 01:01 .
#14658
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 01:08
xkg wrote...
DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...
Quick question:
I want to know, is there anyway to decrease the cost of the Solitude Manor, paid 25k for it lol. Just wondering before I play my next marathon is there anyway to get the cost reduced so as to save some gold, or was my 25k investment what stands. Thanks.
If you're really desperate you can use exploit.
When they ask you if you want to buy a new home - right after you reply "I'll take it" open some near drawer and put all your money there. After the convo ends take your money back
Here is example:
Ahahaha thats perfect, thanks
Although I'm assuming the time freeze shout is necessary and I just used my last dragon soul on Fear.
#14659
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 01:19
Monica83 wrote...
In fact i don't see this problem... Honestly i think this game can offer much to both gamers.. Hardcore and Casuals.. But i don't understeand why someone complain if some features are present..Smith isn't necessary if you don't want.. Also Alchemy o Enchanding.. So i don't see the problem..
The problem is when someone comes out claming Fun as a common feature when is total subjective..
Someone have fun just mashing buttons..
Other like me have fun also with micromanagement
I couldn't have put it better myself to be honest with you there. After all your right. Skyrim has enough stuff to do in the game. But you aren't forced to do them. Just like your not forced to do each and every quest whether ir be the various faction quests, misc quests or any other quests in the game. I think Skyrim is great this time around even with it's flawys. Love the fact that I can make my own weapons and enchant them how I want to enchant them. To me this makes the game more personable.
#14660
Guest_FallTooDovahkiin_*
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 01:22
Guest_FallTooDovahkiin_*
I decorate my houses with different wines and mead.LegendaryAvenger wrote...
Anyone have a personal RP hobby in Skyrim? Me? I like decorating my house with troll skulls. I would LOVE if there was an ability to collect skulls from trolls I kill...
I stack books all over the place. Even pile them on the floor.
And I like to place my armor on tables, put food on plates, that kind of thing.
But thats only on my character that got married.
My other character...
#14661
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 01:33
... would be like this?FallTooDovahkiin wrote...
I decorate my houses with different wines and mead.LegendaryAvenger wrote...
Anyone have a personal RP hobby in Skyrim? Me? I like decorating my house with troll skulls. I would LOVE if there was an ability to collect skulls from trolls I kill...
I stack books all over the place. Even pile them on the floor.
And I like to place my armor on tables, put food on plates, that kind of thing.
But thats only on my character that got married.
My other character...
#14662
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 02:10
Anyone have a personal RP hobby in Skyrim? Me? I like decorating my house with troll skulls. I would LOVE if there was an ability to collect skulls from trolls I kill...[/quote]
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I cleared out my kitchen table in Riften, and am now placing all the contracts on my character's life on it instead. I'm up to 4, now. 2 from the Dark Brotherhood, one from Anise (I stole something from her cabin near riverwood and she hired Thugs to kill me. They failed of course, and I found the contract on one of their bodies). I also have one from a "fisherman" I stole from. Same thing.
#14663
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 02:12
#14664
Guest_greengoron89_*
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 02:28
Guest_greengoron89_*
It's no wonder they took it out, TBH.
Modifié par greengoron89, 19 décembre 2011 - 02:29 .
#14665
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 02:31
There's nothing tedius about Crafting in this game, unless you deliberately exploit it to fast level - but that would be your own fault. Crafting is fun because there's 3 seperate rewards for doing it. 1) leveling 2) gear 3) profit. That's more than we can say walking into another dungeon and killing another 50 draugirs (for example), just so you can level up your combat skills and maybe collect some bowls of bone meal, yes?1136342t54 wrote...
This isn't complaining this is stating how it can get tedious (it is a lie to say it can't be).
Is that a complaint? What did you expect? Education is expensive. Try paying college tuition. lol That can leave you broke too. It's the same concept. But thankfully, Skyrim's system insures that you don't need to do it. Ever.Also I addressed the whole paying for the skills. That can easily leave you broke very quickly.
Modifié par Yrkoon, 19 décembre 2011 - 02:46 .
#14666
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 03:42
My problem is that my second PC was becoming much like my first, so I am forcing myself to forgo Archery, and use Magic instead if possible. I thought of going as a robed mage, but Alteration uses far more perks than Light Armor, and I would rather have more than 60 seconds for armored magic and prefer to save the Magika for other spells.
And the third was going to become a 2H Warrior, but I have difficulty judging targets in a time of battle; keep attacking allies. I had this problem with my Archer as well, but was able to use Conjure spells when forced into Friendly Fire scenarios.
As for the micro-mgt debate, it seems to be completely optional. I avoided most of it; choosing to try Smithing for improving weapons and armor. But Alchemy and Enchanting were generally wasted on me, but can see where some would like crafting Legendary or better gear. And as long as it is optional, I am fine with it.
Modifié par Elhanan, 19 décembre 2011 - 03:43 .
#14667
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 04:51
Skyrim gets huge points for me in making faces that dont make me curl up and have nightmares.
Instead of: OMG WTF IS THAT!
I get: Oh hey that actually looks alive...
I honestly was disgusted with how my Oblivion PCs looked and if I had to say it, I think that Skyrim has one of the better face makers around with few exceptions.
#14668
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 04:54
greengoron89 wrote...
Oh man, it was so easy to abuse the spell creation system in Morrowind - you could practically become a freakin' god, and possibly even break the game entirely using it.
It's no wonder they took it out, TBH.
I agree as this could also be the case in Oblivion. But if they were going to take it out they really should have scaled and leveled the spells.
#14669
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 04:57
Addai67 wrote...
We are once again talking about people complaining about doing things they don't have to do to play the game but do just because they want something.
Sympathy level... zero.
So if someone is a bit annoyed about something being a bit tedious its complaining? Sure I can state something that I may not like in a overall not bad system but it isn't really much of a complaint or whine. At least that is how I see it.
#14670
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 05:03
There's nothing tedius about Crafting in this game, unless you deliberately exploit it to fast level - but that would be your own fault. Crafting is fun because there's 3 seperate rewards for doing it. 1) leveling 2) gear 3) profit. That's more than we can say walking into another dungeon and killing another 50 draugirs (for example), just so you can level up your combat skills and maybe collect some bowls of bone meal, yes?
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Crafting is not as fun as you know fighting and exploring. Both are fun but skryim isn't a game I got for crafting. If the crafting was more fun than exploring then something was likely lacking in the exploration part.
Crafting like I said is enjoyable but not something I want to be stuck doing. No I don't do it for leveling I do it so I can make the best equipment. After a while it can get pretty annoying about as annoying as getting burnt out exploring the hundreth dungeon the difference is you are actually exploring in the latter.
Now is this a bad thing about Crafting? Not really but it is something I can really have fun with consistently.
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Also I addressed the whole paying for the skills. That can easily leave you broke very quickly. [/quote]
Is that a complaint? What did you expect? Education is expensive. Try paying college tuition. lol That can leave you broke too. It's the same concept. But thankfully, Skyrim's system insures that you don't need to do it. Ever.[/quote]
Now you are seeing complaints where there is none. Someone stated that is another easy solution to not basically going through the multiple steps of smithing. Not really since it takes a while to get that much gold to get up to 100. It is best to level up the lower levels but to get higher its better to do it without spending money.
#14671
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 06:03
#14672
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 06:18
Barry Bathernak wrote...
i was on the final,final thieves guild quest mission and my power went out and once it came back on i realized my last save was 2 hours before hand since 2 of my autos were corrupt. so i shouted aids as i always do.
Damn, I feel you. Had something similar happen to me, well not really, but I lost my first character which was level 47 a while ago and had to start over. Sucked. D:
The Thieves Guild has the best storyline IMO, don't give up!
Modifié par Ohei, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:18 .
#14673
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 06:34
Ohei wrote...
Barry Bathernak wrote...
i was on the final,final thieves guild quest mission and my power went out and once it came back on i realized my last save was 2 hours before hand since 2 of my autos were corrupt. so i shouted aids as i always do.
Damn, I feel you. Had something similar happen to me, well not really, but I lost my first character which was level 47 a while ago and had to start over. Sucked. D:
The Thieves Guild has the best storyline IMO, don't give up!
It really does although the Companions guild makes you feel like less of a douchebag. Also werewolves are awesome.
#14674
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 10:39
You're stating an opinion as fact. It's very difficult to seperate one from the other. They're essentially the same thing. They're both fun, and Skyrim deliberately combines the two to blur the lines. (how many times have you come across crafting stations inside a dungeon you're exploring? Or found crafting materials as the primary loot? Or hell, discovered a Mine specifically designed for blacksmithing?) It Happens. All. The. Time. It's half the game.1136342t54 wrote...
Crafting is not as fun as you know fighting and exploring.Yrkoon wrote...
There's nothing tedius about Crafting in this game, unless you deliberately exploit it to fast level - but that would be your own fault. Crafting is fun because there's 3 seperate rewards for doing it. 1) leveling 2) gear 3) profit. That's more than we can say walking into another dungeon and killing another 50 draugirs (for example), just so you can level up your combat skills and maybe collect some bowls of bone meal, yes?
Oh, and I'll take it a step further and make my own bold claim now: If Skyrim didn't let me create and customize my own gear, I'd probably be sick of playing it by now. There's only so much fun to be had if you're on your second playthrough, and you end up finding the exact same crap you found the first time around, with no option to change things up. THANKFULLY they put in a ridiculously huge, dynamic and nearly limitless crafting system in Skyrim.
Modifié par Yrkoon, 19 décembre 2011 - 11:08 .
#14675
Posté 19 décembre 2011 - 01:34
Yrkoon wrote...
There's nothing tedius about Crafting in this game, unless you deliberately exploit it to fast level - but that would be your own fault. Crafting is fun because there's 3 seperate rewards for doing it. 1) leveling 2) gear 3) profit. That's more than we can say walking into another dungeon and killing another 50 draugirs (for example), just so you can level up your combat skills and maybe collect some bowls of bone meal, yes?1136342t54 wrote...
This isn't complaining this is stating how it can get tedious (it is a lie to say it can't be).Is that a complaint? What did you expect? Education is expensive. Try paying college tuition. lol That can leave you broke too. It's the same concept. But thankfully, Skyrim's system insures that you don't need to do it. Ever.Also I addressed the whole paying for the skills. That can easily leave you broke very quickly.
I fully agree with you I've made lots of money by making potions armor and weapons and the like. Heck it paid for my house in Solitude.<G> And I've now got enugh built up from doing quests I can buy about 2 or 3 more house. Got to love it. Besides I look at it this way when it's all said and done and she's ready to retire she can always either be an alchemist or a smith and still make money.<LOL>





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