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[Addai]

happy_daiz wrote...
Hadvar himself seemed pretty honorable, but powerless in that situation. I followed him in my Altmer mage playthrough (and my Imperial playthrough, because it seemed appropriate).

It's the same way out of Helgen, and to Riverwood, but instead of the Stormcloak guy's sister helping, it's Alvor, the Blacksmith.

I've done it before to see it, but even if Hadvar shrugs, he still sends you to the block.  Meanwhile the imperial governor of Skyrim is overseeing the execution, so it's not just underlings gone rogue.

Modifié par Addai67, 21 décembre 2011 - 04:40 .

[LobselVith8]

Addai67 wrote...

  You could as easily say they made the Stormcloaks "racist" so that you had a reason to side with the empire.  Since the imperials were going to cut your head off for no reason and all.

I think it's an issue that's prevelant across Skyrim, and Nirn in general, not simply with the Stormcloaks. Rolff Stone-Fist and Angrenor Once-Honored are racist towards Suvaris Atheron for being Dunmer, Suvaris is racist towards Argonians and considers them lazy, it's an endless cycle. It's an issue that's well outside the scope of some of the Nords in the Stormcloak rebellion. Even if you side with the Empire, it's addressed that Nords have issues with Argonians in Windhelm, and that it's "dangerous" if they were allowed to enter the city. Which makes me wonder how an Arognian or Khajiit protagonist can enter some cities when it seems to be a problem in some places, especially with the Khajiit caravans barred from entering the cities of Skyrim.

Addai67 wrote...

I was going to follow Hadvar with my orc character, but when the decision came up... why anyone would choose to follow their executioner and not their fellow prisoner in escaping is a mystery to me.

Not to mention, you get to kill the Imperial Captain who ordered your execution.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 21 décembre 2011 - 04:57 .

[blaidfiste]

Has this been posted yet?  Apparently Cyrodil and Morrowind are built into our Skyrim installation

ppsh-41.tumblr.com/post/13145143504/entire-tamriel-landmass-built-into-skyrim

[BigEvil]

LobselVith8 wrote...
Not to mention, you get to kill the Imperial Captain who ordered your execution.

That's been a big motivating factor for me in that choice. Although I did send my Dunmer with Hadvar with the reasoning that she was about survival and since Alduin had just flown overhead back-tracking to join Ralof would mean getting closer to where the big scary dragon was. And I sent my Khajiit with him so I could get a two-handed weapon off one of the Stormcloak dead. Other than that I reckon all my characters will be running with Ralof and killing the captain, possibly followed by wearing her officer's helmet at a jaunty angle while laughing at her corpse.

[LobselVith8]

blaidfiste wrote...

Has this been posted yet?  Apparently Cyrodil and Morrowind are built into our Skyrim installation

ppsh-41.tumblr.com/post/13145143504/entire-tamriel-landmass-built-into-skyrim 

Didn't they include the landmass for Morrowind in Oblivion, too?

BigEvil wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Not to mention, you get to kill the Imperial Captain who ordered your execution.

That's been a big motivating factor for me in that choice. Although I did send my Dunmer with Hadvar with the reasoning that she was about survival and since Alduin had just flown overhead back-tracking to join Ralof would mean getting closer to where the big scary dragon was. And I sent my Khajiit with him so I could get a two-handed weapon off one of the Stormcloak dead. Other than that I reckon all my characters will be running with Ralof and killing the captain, possibly followed by wearing her officer's helmet at a jaunty angle while laughing at her corpse.

I've sided with Hadvar before, but I prefer killing the Captain and the torturers.

Does anyone know if it's possible to persuade or intimidate Brother Verulus into leaving with you, or do you always need to bribe him in order for him to leave the Hall of the Dead?

[Addai]

Well and you also get to kill Tullius in the end. I wish there had been a dialogue line "this is for Helgen."

Modifié par Addai67, 21 décembre 2011 - 06:04 .

[happy_daiz]

^ I still can't believe that's Captain Bailey. Sometimes, I wish he had stayed in C-Sec.

[LobselVith8]

sympathyforsaren wrote...

The Psiijic Order can potentially defeat the Thalmor. They seem to be far advanced to the Thalmor.

Possibly, but the Psijic Order disappeared on the Isle of Artaeum (again) along with the entire Isle (again), and they don't seem to directly get involved in events. What happened during the College of Winterhold seems to be the exception rather than the rule, and even then it was because of the magnitude of the threat posed by the Eye of Magnus.

[naughty99]

greengoron89 wrote...

Well, in Hadvar's defense, he was only following orders.

I've heard that one before somewhere...

[CoffeeHolic93]

Burly Nords represent.


"You're the one that casts those Illusions..."


"It's dead... Right? :huh:"

[Eglyntine]

Druss99 wrote...

Whats the Prowlers Profit perk? I don't seem to have got that at all.

You get it as a reward when you complete the "No Stone Unturned" quest for the Thieves Guild. It is the one where you collect the Unusal Gems. After having to find 24 of the suckers and then doing the finale quest for it you definitely deserve something awesome that is for sure.

[DragonRageGT]

happy_daiz wrote...

^ I still can't believe that's Captain Bailey. Sometimes, I wish he had stayed in C-Sec.

Captain Bailey? He's a Cylon! A fraking toaster! =)

Now, this is a lot of content for a game! DA3 will take something from Skyrim? Take the huge amount of details, uniquely designed dungeons and caves, content and love for the game!

[Addai]

greengoron89 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
Hadvar himself seemed pretty honorable, but powerless in that situation. I followed him in my Altmer mage playthrough (and my Imperial playthrough, because it seemed appropriate).

It's the same way out of Helgen, and to Riverwood, but instead of the Stormcloak guy's sister helping, it's Alvor, the Blacksmith.

I've done it before to see it, but even if Hadvar shrugs, he still sends you to the block.  Meanwhile the imperial governor of Skyrim is overseeing the execution, so it's not just underlings gone rogue.

Well, in Hadvar's defense, he was only following orders. It's not like he could just up and say "no" to his superiors - he'd end up in quite a bit of trouble himself in that case, and your character would've gone to the headsman's block anyway.

All that's well and good, but still doesn't explain why you'd follow him out of Helgen rather than try to give the imperials the slip at that point.  What if you got to the end of the dungeon and he says "okay, now you're under arrest, I'm just following orders but that's the way it has to be"?

[Eglyntine]

greengoron89 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
Hadvar himself seemed pretty honorable, but powerless in that situation. I followed him in my Altmer mage playthrough (and my Imperial playthrough, because it seemed appropriate).

It's the same way out of Helgen, and to Riverwood, but instead of the Stormcloak guy's sister helping, it's Alvor, the Blacksmith.

I've done it before to see it, but even if Hadvar shrugs, he still sends you to the block.  Meanwhile the imperial governor of Skyrim is overseeing the execution, so it's not just underlings gone rogue.

Well, in Hadvar's defense, he was only following orders. It's not like he could just up and say "no" to his superiors - he'd end up in quite a bit of trouble himself in that case, and your character would've gone to the headsman's block anyway.

He is a nice enough guy and so is his family. With my character I followed him because I knew nothing of the Civil War really and I missed the part where you had the choice to follow him or the Stormcloaks until the scene played out and my husband asked which guy I followed. I was like, "You had a choice? What other guy could you follow?" *LOL* I just wanted to save my ass from the flames and the meat cleaver so I followed anyone who was making an exit stage right.

And while I totally sympathize with the Stormcloaks, I am drawn to the Imperials like a snake to a charmer... how can you not, most of them are Fenris in disquise!

Modifié par Eglyntine, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:23 .

[DragonRageGT]

Mi-Chan wrote...


"It's dead... Right? :huh:"

Nice shot! Reminded me of this... ahh good old Origins days...

[Laser Beam]

Addai67 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
Hadvar himself seemed pretty honorable, but powerless in that situation. I followed him in my Altmer mage playthrough (and my Imperial playthrough, because it seemed appropriate).

It's the same way out of Helgen, and to Riverwood, but instead of the Stormcloak guy's sister helping, it's Alvor, the Blacksmith.

I've done it before to see it, but even if Hadvar shrugs, he still sends you to the block.  Meanwhile the imperial governor of Skyrim is overseeing the execution, so it's not just underlings gone rogue.

Well, in Hadvar's defense, he was only following orders. It's not like he could just up and say "no" to his superiors - he'd end up in quite a bit of trouble himself in that case, and your character would've gone to the headsman's block anyway.

All that's well and good, but still doesn't explain why you'd follow him out of Helgen rather than try to give the imperials the slip at that point.  What if you got to the end of the dungeon and he says "okay, now you're under arrest, I'm just following orders but that's the way it has to be"?

I followed him because I didn't want to be a fugitive. He was a law abiding High Elf and was hoping that since Hadvar had showed compassion before, he would do so once they escaped....plus I kinda knew the stormcloaks wanted other races out of Skyrim before playing so I was confused why Stormcloaks were helping my high elf....

virumor wrote...

It's interesting that during marriage the people that like you the most show up. For my character, strangely enough Njada Stonearm showed up, along with Brunwulf Free-Winter and the Redguard Riften stable boy.

Yeah, I don't even know why that smith girl came to my wedding. She sent thugs after me...

Modifié par Laser Beam, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:39 .

[Eglyntine]

happy_daiz wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

^Same here...completionist; not to mention Dwemer Ruins are probably my favorite areas of the game. I'm fascinated with them...and the loot is still quite an attraction to me, even after being through many of them already. Falmer, not so much.

I also enjoy the Dwemer ruins; they're probably my favorite type of dungeons to play in. Metal doesn't scare me. Falmer on the other hand? I don't care what level I'm at, I still don't care for them.

Blackreach is my favorite, although I have yet to go back and fight that...oh, I'd hate to spoil it.

I am there with you, Dwemer Ruins remind me of Orzammar and I loved Orzammar. I hate hate hate spiders in these games but I finally found something I hate more. FALMER! First off I feel sorry for them, I feel guilty killing them. BUT on the other hand they are creepy, disgusting and my heart is on screech the whole time I am in their dungeons because my Sneak is unbelieveably good so every time I turn a corner I run the risk of having their nasty face right up next to mine,.

No I will take any other dungeon any day than the depths of a Dwemer Dungeon. Top part is fine, lower lvls are brutal.

Modifié par Eglyntine, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:41 .

[Laser Beam]

Eglyntine wrote...


No I will take any other dungeon any day than the depths of a Dwemer Dungeon. Top part is fine, lower lvls are brutal.

My fist ruin was the one to blackreach and I was actually scared to progress further.

[happy_daiz]

Eglyntine wrote...
He is a nice enough guy and so is his family. With my character I followed him because I knew nothing of the Civil War really and I missed the part where you had the choice to follow him or the Stormcloaks until the scene played out and my husband asked which guy I followed. I was like, "You had a choice? What other guy could you follow?" *LOL* I just wanted to save my ass from the flames and the meat cleaver so I followed anyone who was making an exit stage right.

And while I totally sympathize with the Stormcloaks, I am drawn to the Imperials like a snake to a charmer... how can you not, most of them are Fenris in disquise!

In my first playthrough, I just followed someone, anyone, so I wouldn't get scorched. To be honest, I was so stressed out that when Rolaf told me to jump off the building, I just jumped, and didn't even look. First death of the game.

Laser Beam wrote...

Eglyntine wrote...

No I will take any other dungeon any day than the depths of a Dwemer Dungeon. Top part is fine, lower lvls are brutal.

My fist ruin was the one to blackreach and I was actually scared to progress further.

That's not a trial by fire, that's a trial by FALMER. Yikes, what a scary introduction.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:51 .

[Eglyntine]

Laser Beam wrote...

Eglyntine wrote...


No I will take any other dungeon any day than the depths of a Dwemer Dungeon. Top part is fine, lower lvls are brutal.

My fist ruin was the one to blackreach and I was actually scared to progress further.

I am a complete wuss because I can never complete a Falmer dungeon in one stretch. I usually have to take a break and go watch TV or clean the kitchen, anything to get my mind off of the dungeon for a bit. 

Modifié par Eglyntine, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:56 .

[Giggles_Manically]

You know I love Urag.

Then again I love any Orc who is not a chaotic evil monster in most settings.
Whole reason I played an Orc bard in Pathfinder named Bartholomew.

And yes it was awesome.

[DragonRageGT]

happy_daiz wrote...

Eglyntine wrote...

No I will take any other dungeon any day than the depths of a Dwemer Dungeon. Top part is fine, lower lvls are brutal.

My fist ruin was the one to blackreach and I was actually scared to progress further.

That's not a trial by fire, that's a trial by FALMER. Yikes, what a scary introduction.

There are many roads to Blackreach and they're all closed until we get the proper items to open it.

Modifié par RageGT, 21 décembre 2011 - 08:22 .

[happy_daiz]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

You know I love Urag.

He is awesome.


Ooh! i just saw that you could sell him the Elder Scroll after Aldiun's Bane. Good to know!

Modifié par happy_daiz, 21 décembre 2011 - 08:24 .