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RageGT wrote...

There are many roads to Blackreach and they're all closed until we get the proper items to open it.


That's what I thought. I'd already been in...probably 5 or 6 Dwemer ruins before I had that item, and visited Blackreach for the first time.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

You know I love Urag.

Then again I love any Orc who is not a chaotic evil monster in most settings.
Whole reason I played an Orc bard in Pathfinder named Bartholomew.

And yes it was awesome.

Cranky orc librarian is wonderful.  Image IPB

I also like the chipper orc bard.  That DB contract...  gah...

Want to add some extra special flavor to a Falmer dungeon?  Fight through it while hyped on Sleeping Tree Sap.  Image IPB

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Addai67 wrote...

Want to add some extra special flavor to a Falmer dungeon?  Fight through it while hyped on Sleeping Tree Sap.  Image IPB


You are my hero. Image IPB

Modifié par happy_daiz, 21 décembre 2011 - 08:36 .


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greengoron89 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
Hadvar himself seemed pretty honorable, but powerless in that situation. I followed him in my Altmer mage playthrough (and my Imperial playthrough, because it seemed appropriate).

It's the same way out of Helgen, and to Riverwood, but instead of the Stormcloak guy's sister helping, it's Alvor, the Blacksmith.

I've done it before to see it, but even if Hadvar shrugs, he still sends you to the block.  Meanwhile the imperial governor of Skyrim is overseeing the execution, so it's not just underlings gone rogue.


Well, in Hadvar's defense, he was only following orders. It's not like he could just up and say "no" to his superiors - he'd end up in quite a bit of trouble himself in that case, and your character would've gone to the headsman's block anyway.

I don't think the Imperial officers would take kindly to insubordination. Hadvar was simply doing his job. 

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Addai67 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

You know I love Urag.

Then again I love any Orc who is not a chaotic evil monster in most settings.
Whole reason I played an Orc bard in Pathfinder named Bartholomew.

And yes it was awesome.

Cranky orc librarian is wonderful.  Image IPB

I also like the chipper orc bard.  That DB contract...  gah...

Want to add some extra special flavor to a Falmer dungeon?  Fight through it while hyped on Sleeping Tree Sap.  Image IPB


Agreed on Urag he's got his priorities sorted too: First, books, after, anything else.

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My first Dwemer ruin was the one in Markarth. I went through it with Vostrag (sp?) and he managed to actually survive until activating the Dwemer defenses. Then somehow he got lost somewhere trying to find his own way back to the entrance because for some reason he couldn't be bothered to jump off a 20 cm high precipice and I assume he got mauled by a Centurion.

In short: dumb Nords are dumb.

Modifié par virumor, 21 décembre 2011 - 09:30 .


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I don't think the Imperial officers would take kindly to insubordination. Hadvar was simply doing his job. 

Again, I don't blame Hadvar for following orders.  The military governor of Skyrim was overseeing it all- he didn't have any choice.  My question was why you would trust him afterward, when you have your freedom.  I'm playing my orc as a veteran of the legion, but that just makes it worse that the empire was going to cut her head off for no reason and without a trial.

Also, he has a sexy voice.  It's a pity he's on the wrong side.  lol

Modifié par Addai67, 21 décembre 2011 - 09:44 .


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Want to add some extra special flavor to a Falmer dungeon?  Fight through it while hyped on Sleeping Tree Sap.  Image IPB


I eat Falmer Ears for breakfast, with Nordic Barnacle and Scaly Pholiata for seasoning. Maybe my built was made too powerful but the only real thing that gave me trouble, always in Master diff, was a Bandit Highwayman when I was level 6 and not even my power attacks could damage him. And he could kill me in 1or two 2 hits. I really lost my head to him before I gave up and ran.

But Falmers? Weaklings. And I've been spawing Shadowmasters mostly since a long many levels back. They're great for Grand Soul Gems filling! =)

Other than that the game is a real breeze even on Master.

(PS.: Sleeping Tree Sap screwed up my Health points, when I was around level 6 as well, making them permanently above what they should be. I needed lots of tries with the console to fix it but it will always show my Health in green as if I had some bonus to it even when I'm naked.)

Modifié par RageGT, 21 décembre 2011 - 10:02 .


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The only creatures I don't mind soul trapping are Forsworn. They'd do it to you.

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I admit - I tried to both soul trap and wabbajack Ulfric.

I also have fond memories of soul trapping both Vivec and Almalexia. Their soul gems were worth 5,000,000 gold each.

Modifié par virumor, 21 décembre 2011 - 10:06 .


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LobselVith8 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Image IPB  You could as easily say they made the Stormcloaks "racist" so that you had a reason to side with the empire.  Since the imperials were going to cut your head off for no reason and all.


I think it's an issue that's prevelant across Skyrim, and Nirn in general, not simply with the Stormcloaks. Rolff Stone-Fist and Angrenor Once-Honored are racist towards Suvaris Atheron for being Dunmer, Suvaris is racist towards Argonians and considers them lazy, it's an endless cycle. It's an issue that's well outside the scope of some of the Nords in the Stormcloak rebellion. Even if you side with the Empire, it's addressed that Nords have issues with Argonians in Windhelm, and that it's "dangerous" if they were allowed to enter the city. Which makes me wonder how an Arognian or Khajiit protagonist can enter some cities when it seems to be a problem in some places, especially with the Khajiit caravans barred from entering the cities of Skyrim.


While some factions in this game are less racist than others, I agree that racism seems to be prevalent everywhere all over Tamriel. It's hard for me as a player to demonize any one character over it because it's just everywhere.

As for Argonians and Khajiit being able to enter Windhelm, I don't know how Ulfric responds to the Argonians or Khajiit trying to join the Stormcloaks, but he let my Altmer join with barely any questions asked, and you'd think he'd be most suspicious of an Altmer.

Modifié par phaonica, 21 décembre 2011 - 10:20 .


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Ulfric would make one damn sexy sweetroll. *hubba hubba*

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I gave Ulfric bit of a hard time first time through, I'll just try the peaceful resolution this time around. The poor man has been through enough; he is just overcompensating for having been played like a fiddle by both Empire and Thalmor.

The Civil War questline is pretty underwhelming anyway, the only reason to do it is to gain access to Korvanjund and a word wall that is otherwise unavailable.

phaonica wrote...

As for Argonians and Khajiit being able to enter Windhelm, I don't know how Ulfric responds to the Argonians or Khajiit trying to join the Stormcloaks, but he let my Altmer join with barely any questions asked, and you'd think he'd be most suspicious of an Altmer.

In all cases, he gives you a difficult task to prove your worth (and is more a veiled attempt to get you killed, the same goes for the Empire first task), plus there's the fact that you were on the same cart as him in the beginning of the game and the Empire was trying to cut off your character's head.

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Why would you think the task was an indirect attempt to kill the Dragonborn? Galmar gave my character some powerful poison and a frost resistance potion to help with killing the Ice Wraith, and the meat saleswoman in Riften says that killing Ice Wraiths is a common initiation rite for Nords.

EDIT: He also said "Try not to get killed" after giving me the poison and potion - and apparently Ulfric and Galmar made a bet over whether or not you would come back alive, in which Ulfric bet that you would.

Modifié par greengoron89, 21 décembre 2011 - 10:41 .


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happy_daiz wrote...
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Ooh! i just saw that you could sell him the Elder Scroll after Aldiun's Bane. Good to know!


Agreed; twenty lbs out of my pack....

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Addai67 wrote...

*SNIP*
Want to add some extra special flavor to a Falmer dungeon?  Fight through it while hyped on Sleeping Tree Sap.  Image IPB


My Nord, now just Shield Charges his way through Dwemer Ruins and clusters of Falmer.  They're no challenge anymore truthfully, but they still creep me out.  Not to mention, I can't avoid being poisoned every time I come in contact with them...that is...well...until I took up Falmer bowling for a hobby.Image IPB

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

*SNIP*
Want to add some extra special flavor to a Falmer dungeon?  Fight through it while hyped on Sleeping Tree Sap.  Image IPB


My Nord, now just Shield Charges his way through Dwemer Ruins and clusters of Falmer.  They're no challenge anymore truthfully, but they still creep me out.  Not to mention, I can't avoid being poisoned every time I come in contact with them...that is...well...until I took up Falmer bowling for a hobby.Image IPB


Ah, I was wondering when they'd get around to making another sequel to "Elf Bowling." I'll have to give that a shot sometime during one of my playthroughs.

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Addai67 wrote...

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I don't think the Imperial officers would take kindly to insubordination. Hadvar was simply doing his job. 

Again, I don't blame Hadvar for following orders.  The military governor of Skyrim was overseeing it all- he didn't have any choice.  My question was why you would trust him afterward, when you have your freedom.  I'm playing my orc as a veteran of the legion, but that just makes it worse that the empire was going to cut her head off for no reason and without a trial.

Also, he has a sexy voice.  It's a pity he's on the wrong side.  lol

The question is, why wouldn't you trust him afterwards? He says that he believes your innocent and wants you pardoned. Wrong side? For you maybe, for me, he's okay. I wonder if Hadvar does ANYTHING besides hanging around his uncle's place...

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virumor wrote...

In all cases, he gives you a difficult task to prove your worth (and is more a veiled attempt to get you killed, the same goes for the Empire first task), plus there's the fact that you were on the same cart as him in the beginning of the game and the Empire was trying to cut off your character's head.


Still if Ulfric and the Stormcloaks were mindlessly racist, it wouldn't matter that you weren't Thalmor, it would only matter that you weren't Nord. One could argue that the player get's a free pass as part of the game mechanics, and that might be true, but it makes it hard for me to roleplay the perspective when the Stormcloaks and Ulfric mostly ignore my race as I'm playing.

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greengoron89 wrote...

Ah, I was wondering when they'd get around to making another sequel to "Elf Bowling." I'll have to give that a shot sometime during one of my playthroughs.

Have you tried it with Thalmor bowling pins? My bowling fireballs seem to love getting strikes on them.

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LegendaryAvenger wrote...

The question is, why wouldn't you trust him afterwards? He says that he believes your innocent and wants you pardoned. 


He might have believed you were innocent and wanted you pardoned as he sent you to the block, before. You might trust Hadvar himself, but what power can you believe he actually has to change anything?

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A question for pure Warriors (2h or S+S, even non Shadow Warrioring Dual Wielders), how do you build up your attributes in terms of Health to Stamina Ratio?

Is 3/2 a good ratio (for every 5 levels, you stack Health 3 times and Stamina twice)?

I'm conceptualising a new character system that's loosely based on the Storytelling System as seen in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines (okay it's not really like Storytelling or V:tm-B, but I did get some ideas from it), changing the Attributes on level-up to Physical, Mental and Social with more benefits to each than just a H/M/S boost. Probably can't start until the CK comes out, but I've found a lot of the variables to change around basic stuff, like the amount of extra lbs you get per level of Stamina, the game's regen rates, training costs (which will definitely be apart of how Social is made useful) and even the bartering ratio.

I figure I'd need to lump both Stamina and Health gain into the one stat so that goes back to my question: how do you build up your character's Health and Stamina if you're a pure Warrior?

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I just alternate between Health and Stamina on each level-up. I'm not sure if that's the "best" way to handle it, but it works well enough for me.

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LegendaryAvenger wrote...
The question is, why wouldn't you trust him afterwards? He says that he believes your innocent and wants you pardoned. Wrong side? For you maybe, for me, he's okay. I wonder if Hadvar does ANYTHING besides hanging around his uncle's place...

Why would Hadvar's good intentions toward you matter any more after the dragon than they did before?  If he wasn't able to do anything for you then, he won't be able to after.

The game's opener makes that whole "hey why not join the legion" incredibly awkward.  I also don't know why my orc would volunteer to show up at Tullius' headquarters, given her history with him.  She could expect to be clapped in irons.