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[happy_daiz]

I had a feeling that there was something in Mara's Eye Pond (near a companions quest location, where you end up with Aela). I finally sated my curiosity last night - there's a trapdoor to Mara's Eye Den, on the island right in the middle of the pond, alongside a little boat.

Once you go inside, you find a smuggler's journal, and realize that you've stumbled upon a vampire den. What pleased me was that despite it being small, this was a completely different location map than any I'd seen. I almost felt sorry for the Vigilant of Stendarr I found, but got over it pretty quickly, when I opened the main chest.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 29 décembre 2011 - 10:28 .

[HoonDing]

Interestingly, I pickpocketed Jon Battle-Born and found a note revealing he and Olfina Gray-Mane appear to have a secret tryst. Is this part of some quest?

I'm also contemplating working towards the 100 Pickpocketing perk and use it to disrobe every NPC in Skyrim.

Modifié par virumor, 29 décembre 2011 - 10:30 .

[happy_daiz]

^ That's awesome. Let us know how that works out.

Poor Jon Battle-Born. He witnessed one of my characters turn into a wolf, behind Jorrvaskr, and attacked. My follower cut him down, and that was the end of him. I don't think he had a note on him, but it's probably something you only see if you pickpocket. How intriguing; I might have to add that to my box of tricks.

[LPPrince]

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Wow, that's commendable. How do you decide what to do in your game? I can't imagine not trying every single angle and race, but I'm a woman, and changing my mind is what I do.

I decide beforehand, and I stick to it. For ex- in the ME series, I alwaaaaays play Vanguard. Same character.

Here, I'm a heavy armor using archer/sword and boarder. And that's how I'm going to stay.

[caradoc2000]

virumor wrote...

Interestingly, I pickpocketed Jon Battle-Born and found a note revealing he and Olfina Gray-Mane appear to have a secret tryst. Is this part of some quest?

You can use the knowledge to blackmail him in the Missing in Action quest.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

virumor wrote...

Interestingly, I pickpocketed Jon Battle-Born and found a note revealing he and Olfina Gray-Mane appear to have a secret tryst. Is this part of some quest?

I'm also contemplating working towards the 100 Pickpocketing perk and use it to disrobe every NPC in Skyrim.

Jarl Haribeard:  "Dovakiin!  Someone is stealing all of our clothes.  Stripping people naked in the street!  Can you help us?"
Dovakiin:  "Sure!  Of course I can!  But first, would you like to buy an apron?  I have quite a selection!"

[happy_daiz]

LPPrince wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Wow, that's commendable. How do you decide what to do in your game? I can't imagine not trying every single angle and race, but I'm a woman, and changing my mind is what I do.

I decide beforehand, and I stick to it. For ex- in the ME series, I alwaaaaays play Vanguard. Same character.

Here, I'm a heavy armor using archer/sword and boarder. And that's how I'm going to stay.

Props to you, sir. I can't do that. I'm too wishy-washy.

[LPPrince]

Props accepted. Hah.

Now I've got to wait ever so slowly for patchy patchiness.

Oh ME3 multiplayer beta, please save me.

[Redneck1st]

virumor wrote...

Interestingly, I pickpocketed Jon Battle-Born and found a note revealing he and Olfina Gray-Mane appear to have a secret tryst. Is this part of some quest?

I'm also contemplating working towards the 100 Pickpocketing perk and use it to disrobe every NPC in Skyrim.

I did that in a Foresworn camp went through in sneak and cleaned the whole place out of weapons and armor than used a couple of frenzy spells on  a couple of different foresworn in them camp you talk about hilarious. Me and a friend were sitting here laughing our butts off watching them all fighting with their fist in nothing but thier small clothes

[naughty99]

LPPrince wrote...

I'm the kind of player who has issues playing more than one character in a game.

I mean, player-created characters. For example, in the ME series, I have ONE Commander Shepard. That's it.

In ME1, I created a few, but I just could NOT play with them because they weren't my canon first character.

So it'd end up being the same here. Hence why I'd rather wait for a patch then start over, run to Riften, and go through ALL of the Thieves Guild stuff again.

Isn't it a bit more fun to try different playing styles?

For example, I'm having a lot of fun rolling separate characters for pure mage, pure warrior, thief, assassin, archer/ranger, necromancer, etc. Also I get to look forward to lots of content I skip in each playthrough because, for example, my warrior has no interest in hanging out in the mage's college, and my mage has no interest in roughhousing with a bunch of companions or thieves guild, etc.

Also if you support one side of the civil war, it's going to be fun to try joining the other side in a different playthrough. Not to mention all the different races you can play.

Modifié par naughty99, 30 décembre 2011 - 01:24 .

[BigEvil]

Been sitting going through some of my screenshots to get rid of some. I'm always amazed by the screenshots other people post as I have terrible reaction times. My screenshots often tend to be of the moment after the cool thing I wanted to actually take the screenshot of is over. Still, found a couple I thought were mildly amusing and decided to share (assuming I can get the pictures to show up in my posts so I'll just try one for now).

I walked up a mountain path somewhere in Whiterun Hold and found a shrine for Kynareth. I've always liked these shrines since first finding one for Zenithar (sp?), the one with the anvil for a symbol, amidst the ruin of an ancient building. So I approached cautiously, looking for crazy mages hiding nearby and found the following. Kynareth, Goddess of shoes...


The mages in Skyrim all seem to be just as crazy as the ones in Kirkwall, every single one I've encountered outside of the College of Winterhold and the Court Wizards has attacked me on sight. It even led to one of my characters putting an arrow in the back of Talsgar the Wanderer's head because I saw a figure in the distance using magic and immediately thought "Aaah, kill it!" All it did was make the bard angry, and you wouldn't like Talsgar when he's angry.

I even had a mad, dirty mage wearing nothing but fur pants walk into Whiterun and challenge my first character (who joined the Winterhold College while being a warrior-mage, heavy on the warrior, light on the mage) to a magic duel. I complied and thinking it was like brawling I put spells in both hands and promptly got killed twice in a row. Third time I said screw honour, pulled out my Skyforge steel war axe and chopped him up into crazy mage cubes. I wonder how the conversation with the guards outside the gate went.

Guard: "Reason for visit?"
Mage: "Hurling fireballs at the Thane of Whiterun."
Guard: "You can go in."

Modifié par BigEvil, 30 décembre 2011 - 01:19 .

[DragonRageGT]

Yrkoon wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

About the depth of the game. There were even team members who only created hidden locations and nothing else. Talking about dedication. Those locations must be there. I haven't found any yet, though. I wonder if any of you found some of those.

Hidden Locations?  Hard to say, since sometimes I have trouble discovering paths and locations that are right in front of my eyes, while other times I manage to stumble on something that I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to find so easily.

Fiendishly hidden treasure chests on the other hand... I found a couple of those.  There's a fallen, hollowed-out tree trunk across the river from Riverwood.  Inside it is a chest containing an array of potions and a good deal of gold.  Very useful find, when you've just escaped Helgen and you're  still a level 1 n00b.

And of course, once you can waterbreathe, it pays to jump into  the water and start searching.  The waterways in this game are littered with loot.

Some of these hidden chests, including this one you mentioned, are mapped in those  "Treasure Maps". I've only found maps I, III, IV, V, VI, VII and X. I've probably found some chests that may be in the other maps. But you'll know you've found something hidden or some secret when a quick musical theme plays.

[DragonRageGT]

virumor wrote...

Interestingly, I pickpocketed Jon Battle-Born and found a note revealing he and Olfina Gray-Mane appear to have a secret tryst. Is this part of some quest?

I'm also contemplating working towards the 100 Pickpocketing perk and use it to disrobe every NPC in Skyrim.

It's the Romeo & Juliet thing someone mentioned pages ago. I've got that letter too but there's no quest associated to it, apparently.

PS:

caradoc2000 wrote...
You can use the knowledge to blackmail him in the Missing in Action quest.

Oh, I had already advanced that quest past that point so that's why I had nothing to do with that letter.

Modifié par RageGT, 30 décembre 2011 - 01:57 .

[DragonRageGT]

BigEvil wrote...

... So I approached cautiously, looking for crazy mages hiding nearby and found the following. Kynareth, Goddess of shoes...

Did anyone else noticed a small room filled with shoes of all kinds, in one of the Vampire Dens? A tribute to Imelda Marcos perhaps? =)

[Druss99]

naughty99 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

I'm the kind of player who has issues playing more than one character in a game.

I mean, player-created characters. For example, in the ME series, I have ONE Commander Shepard. That's it.

In ME1, I created a few, but I just could NOT play with them because they weren't my canon first character.

So it'd end up being the same here. Hence why I'd rather wait for a patch then start over, run to Riften, and go through ALL of the Thieves Guild stuff again.

Isn't it a bit more fun to try different playing styles?

For example, I'm having a lot of fun rolling separate characters for pure mage, pure warrior, thief, assassin, archer/ranger, necromancer, etc. Also I get to look forward to lots of content I skip in each playthrough because, for example, my warrior has no interest in hanging out in the mage's college, and my mage has no interest in roughhousing with a bunch of companions or thieves guild, etc.

Also if you support one side of the civil war, it's going to be fun to try joining the other side in a different playthrough. Not to mention all the different races you can play.

I only play one character too. Mostly because I have no real interest in playing as a mage and my character can do pretty much everything a warrior or thief can do.

He even has reason to become Thane in every city and become leader of every guild. It makes uniting Skyrim under one leader a hell of alot easier when its time to kick the Thalmor out. If he is in a position to weed out Thalmor influence and keep all the cities and powerful organisations in line then a united Skyrim will be easier to defend. Now if only he would get to doing that instead of heading off on random quests.

I don't really use exploits either so my character isn't overpowered which makes it continue to be fun. My twin katana's do around 114 damage, which is kind of crap compared to the 600+ I've seen others in here mention but I'd rather do that and have a challenge than one hit everything, keeps it fresh. I do one hit alot of things but I'll sometimes run into random bandits or groups that cause me problems.

Modifié par Druss99, 30 décembre 2011 - 02:06 .

[Sidney]

Get Magna Carter wrote...

I am yet to play a Bethsheda RPG twice (except for one try at Morrowind which died after 10 minutes) because of the time I put into each and sheer number of other games to play
Biowares games are shorter and incorporate more variation and thus are more replayable

Well part of it...and I'm creeping up on lvl 50 and running out of things I will be improving to level up and I'm not feeling a big need to go back in. I'll finish the main quest and liberate Skyrim for the Stormcloaks but I just don't have a burning need to find out how it plays out differently for the Imperials.

I think so much of it for me is based on the grinding that takes place - I have no real interest in goiing back into generic Draugar crypt #9 again just to level my skills up.

[DragonRageGT]

Druss99 wrote...

I only play one character too. Mostly because I have no real interest in playing as a mage and my character can do pretty much everything a warrior or thief can do.

He even has reason to become Thane in every city and become leader of every guild. It makes uniting Skyrim under one leader a hell of alot easier when its time to kick the Thalmor out. If he is in a position to weed out Thalmor influence and keep all the cities and powerful organisations in line then a united Skyrim will be easier to defend. Now if only he would get to doing that instead of heading off on random quests.

I don't really use exploits either so my character isn't overpowered which makes it continue to be fun. My twin katana's do around 114 damage, which is kind of crap compared to the 600+ I've seen others in here mention but I'd rather do that and have a challenge than one hit everything, keeps it fresh. I do one hit alot of things but I'll sometimes run into random bandits or groups that cause me problems.

There's basically two characters I love to play in any RPG. Two Handed Warriors and dex-based Archers, which can be a Khajiit Sneak/Archery built in Skyrim. Or any other race for that matter. If only Bosmer didn't look so ugly in TES games...

Now, we don't need exploits to become powerful. Just playing the game and raising the skills will do it. And on Master difficulty, I'm really glad I can one-arrow-kill those bastards Arch-Necromancers of all 3 elemental schools. But it still takes some 6 arrows to kill an Ancient Dragon! hehe

I've been playing more with Marked for Death and it actually slowly damages the target. I killed a Giant while training my Light Armor skill, only using MfD!  hahaha

[Sidney]

Druss99 wrote...

I don't really use exploits either so my character isn't overpowered which makes it continue to be fun. My twin katana's do around 114 damage, which is kind of crap compared to the 600+ I've seen others in here mention but I'd rather do that and have a challenge than one hit everything, keeps it fresh. I do one hit alot of things but I'll sometimes run into random bandits or groups that cause me problems.

How do you know how much they do? I ask because my best swords, in the hands of me or a follwer, are < 20 right now on the inventory screen (Dawnbreaker is my sword)  - I seem to recall screen caps in here of people with the 600 dmg showing in inventory.

Now, I'm a mage and have just a couple of one handed perks and am around lvl 50 on one handed but are perks and more levels enough to explain 18 vs 114? Does it explode exponentially like that?

[caradoc2000]

Sidney wrote...

Now, I'm a mage and have just a couple of one handed perks and am around lvl 50 on one handed but are perks and more levels enough to explain 18 vs 114? Does it explode exponentially like that?

You can use exploits. If not, you'll end up with something over 100. My glass war axe is 118 atm.

[DragonRageGT]

Sidney wrote...

How do you know how much they do? I ask because my best swords, in the hands of me or a follwer, are < 20 right now on the inventory screen (Dawnbreaker is my sword)  - I seem to recall screen caps in here of people with the 600 dmg showing in inventory.

Now, I'm a mage and have just a couple of one handed perks and am around lvl 50 on one handed but are perks and more levels enough to explain 18 vs 114? Does it explode exponentially like that?

The damage shown on inventory screen includes all +% damage items you may have equipped. For my Ebony Greatsword to have 640 dmg showing there, I'd need my 4 items with +45% Two Handed damage equipped. (and of course, level 100 skill and 5/5 Two Handed damage perk). If I switched Necklace or Ring for my +% Resistance or any other thing I may want to enchant, then the damage would not be the highest. But base damage is totally related to the perks and the skill level you have for that weapon.

Even with no perks spent on one handed, a level 50 One Handed skill using a base item with 20 damage, for instance, will have total base damage lower than a level 100 One Handed skill.

Modifié par RageGT, 30 décembre 2011 - 04:04 .

[naughty99]

Sidney wrote...

I think so much of it for me is based on the grinding that takes place - I have no real interest in goiing back into generic Draugar crypt #9 again just to level my skills up.

It is so much fun to go back to lower level, especially playing as a completely different character from the first time. 

I don't think about it in terms of trying to level my skills. I guess my over-arching motivation for dungeon diving is always hoping to find new dragon shouts or cool items or complete interesting quests.

I really enjoy that stage when the world is so dangerous, and I have to try to save up coin to get some crappy hide armor, etc.

In previous TES games, I always played some kind of JOAT/battlemage or mage/archer type. For the first time I'm having a great time playing highly specialized characters.

After my first thief/archer character got to be about level 45, which took around 200 hours, I started to find that there were very few areas that presented a lot of challenge in terms of combat on Master difficulty.

I decided to take a little break and see what the other playing styles were like.

I then rolled three new characters and completed Helgen and Bleak Falls on "Master," without any followers, first as a pure 2H Nord barbarian (no enchanting, no lockpicking, no archery, no alchemy, no magic spells, not even healing, none of that cowardly stuff), then a Breton pure mage (no weapons, no armor, no lockpicking), and khajiit assassin (no enchanting, no smithing, no magic of any kind).

All three were challenging, but so much was different from my first playthrough. After Bleak Falls, I have been playing my Nord warrior consistently and it's an entirely different experience from my first character. 

I learned that depending on whether you follow Ralof or Hadvar during the  tutorial, each of them introduces you to some of their friends and family in Riverwood and you kind of start out understanding their perspective on the civil war.

During my first playthrough after Helgen, I just said "See ya" to Ralof and never looked back, didn't even make it to Riverwood or Whiterun until I was much higher level.

That's one small example, but so far each playthrough has been different in so many ways. And I haven't even scratched the surface of all the major questlines in the game. Judging by how very little progress I've made in around 350 hours playing the game, I would guess it will take something like 1000 hours to play through each of the major factions. 

Modifié par naughty99, 30 décembre 2011 - 04:23 .

[Sidney]

RageGT wrote...

The damage shown on inventory screen includes all +% damage items you may have equipped. For my Ebony Greatsword to have 640 dmg showing there, I'd need my 4 items with +45% Two Handed damage equipped. (and of course, level 100 skill and 5/5 Two Handed damage perk). If I switched Necklace or Ring for my +% Resistance or any other thing I may want to enchant, then the damage would not be the highest. But base damage is totally related to the perks and the skill level you have for that weapon.

Even with no perks spent on one handed, a level 50 One Handed skill using a base item with 20 damage, for instance, will have total base damage lower than a level 100 One Handed skill.

Take the Ebony Waraxe at 25 DMG I found. With 5/5 in Barbarian it gets to 50. I'm assuming you mean 4 x 45 not a total of +45% so that is (and assuming these things stack on each other and not just build on the "base" damage - in other words you are doing (((25*2)*.45)*.45)...and so on: gets you around 250 so the other 350 is from the lvl 100 two handed skill? I'm asking because leveling up from around 30 to 50 (I've been hitting more folks with my sword recently) didn't seem to generate a major increase in weapon killing power.

Also, do companions show "adjusted" damage becuase my followers have the same DMG showing for a sword as I do.

[caradoc2000]

Sidney wrote...

Take the Ebony Waraxe at 25 DMG I found. With 5/5 in Barbarian it gets to 50. I'm assuming you mean 4 x 45 not a total of +45% so that is (and assuming these things stack on each other and not just build on the "base" damage - in other words you are doing (((25*2)*.45)*.45)...and so on: gets you around 250 so the other 350 is from the lvl 100 two handed skill?

Have you improved your axe? With the ebony smithing perk and various Fortify Smithing items ebony weapons should easily have 60-70 base damage.

[Sidney]

caradoc2000 wrote...

 Have you improved your axe? With the ebony smithing perk and various Fortify Smithing items ebony weapons should easily have 60-70 base damage.

No, it is just a base axe I found - the only 2H weapons I offhanded recalled the damage for. OK, that is what I was looking for this isn't a base weapon that was found/bought as it was that is amped up by skills, it is amped up by various smithing/enchanting tricks. It seems odd that even weapons crafted by the Daedra are so "base" compared to what I could do hammering away it (Dawnbreaker for example).

[caradoc2000]

Even if you intend to sell high-end weapons/armor (such as the ebony stuff you get from draugr deathlords), it is advisable to improve them first, you get a lot more gold that way. Unimproved damage/armor rating of items is terrible.

Edit: you can improve magic items as well (you need the perk for that).

Modifié par caradoc2000, 30 décembre 2011 - 05:50 .