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[The Last Prince Of Scotland]

I ran into a Mercenary screaming for help near Whiterun earlier. She starting talking about being on her way to check out a disturbance (no imminent danger then, which confused me) and then asked me why she should tell me. Reluctant to give her 30 of the 15,000-odd gold I had I tried persuade. Failed.

Angrily intrigued I decided to just follow her seeing as I couldn't get anything more from her than "I'm sure I can handle this". She ate those words when she led me to a trio of better-equipped-than-usual-for-my-level bandits. Before she could even reach them with her dwarven warhammer she was killed by the first arrow fired. (Extra loot for me)

[Redneck1st]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Even if you intend to sell high-end weapons/armor (such as the ebony stuff you get from draugr deathlords), it is advisable to improve them first, you get a lot more gold that way. Unimproved damage/armor rating of items is terrible.

Edit: you can improve magic items as well (you need the perk for that).

And to think that I've just been selling these things as I've found them. I'm going to have to start changing that routine.  Thanks for the info on this.

Now from what I've heard from Nuaghty99 the 2 handed ebony sword you get from the whispering door quest uses the perks from the one handed weapons perk tree.

[Addai]

BigEvil wrote...

The mages in Skyrim all seem to be just as crazy as the ones in Kirkwall, every single one I've encountered outside of the College of Winterhold and the Court Wizards has attacked me on sight. It even led to one of my characters putting an arrow in the back of Talsgar the Wanderer's head because I saw a figure in the distance using magic and immediately thought "Aaah, kill it!" All it did was make the bard angry, and you wouldn't like Talsgar when he's angry.

There are all the court mages and the battle mages in the imperial army, plus the priests who usually have some magic, too.  The ones out in the wilds are out there for a reason.  And some of them are really skeevy.  But soul trapping necromancers with their own black soul gems is so much fun. 

[Redneck1st]

Addai67 wrote...

BigEvil wrote...

The mages in Skyrim all seem to be just as crazy as the ones in Kirkwall, every single one I've encountered outside of the College of Winterhold and the Court Wizards has attacked me on sight. It even led to one of my characters putting an arrow in the back of Talsgar the Wanderer's head because I saw a figure in the distance using magic and immediately thought "Aaah, kill it!" All it did was make the bard angry, and you wouldn't like Talsgar when he's angry.

There are all the court mages and the battle mages in the imperial army, plus the priests who usually have some magic, too.  The ones out in the wilds are out there for a reason.  And some of them are really skeevy.  But soul trapping necromancers with their own black soul gems is so much fun. 

I couldn't agree with you more on this here. What kind of soul traping weapon do you use? As for me I've got a bow that does the job for me.

[Yrkoon]

Redneck1st wrote...

Now from what I've heard from Nuaghty99 the 2 handed ebony sword you get from the whispering door quest uses the perks from the one handed weapons perk tree.

Indeed.

I wonder if that's a bug or if it's Bethesda's way of implementing Katanas.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 décembre 2011 - 08:37 .

[Addai]

Redneck1st wrote...

I couldn't agree with you more on this here. What kind of soul traping weapon do you use? As for me I've got a bow that does the job for me.

Yes, I have my self-crafted, self-enchanted Nightingale Soulreaper bow. 

Wow... uh, I wish I hadn't bought the torture room for the Dawnstar Sanctuary.  I didn't realize ****r would put it to use quite so enthusiastically.

Edit:  Censoring N*zir's name?  Really, BSN?

Modifié par Addai67, 30 décembre 2011 - 09:37 .

[caradoc2000]

Addai67 wrote...

Edit:  Censoring N*zir's name?  Really, BSN?

There is a limit just how Dark your Brotherhood can be.

[Druss99]

Sidney wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

I don't really use exploits either so my character isn't overpowered which makes it continue to be fun. My twin katana's do around 114 damage, which is kind of crap compared to the 600+ I've seen others in here mention but I'd rather do that and have a challenge than one hit everything, keeps it fresh. I do one hit alot of things but I'll sometimes run into random bandits or groups that cause me problems.

How do you know how much they do? I ask because my best swords, in the hands of me or a follwer, are < 20 right now on the inventory screen (Dawnbreaker is my sword)  - I seem to recall screen caps in here of people with the 600 dmg showing in inventory.

Now, I'm a mage and have just a couple of one handed perks and am around lvl 50 on one handed but are perks and more levels enough to explain 18 vs 114? Does it explode exponentially like that?

I have all 5 base damage perks in the one handed tree and most sword based perks, gloves that add +30% one handed damage, 100 in smithing along with gloves and necklace that take it beyond that so my weapons are fairly highly smithed(I've upgraded them past legendary three times), my one-handed is around level 84 and I included enchantments into that damage calculation. My base damage is actually around 97 dmg.

Add all that together and the fact that I found Dawnbreaker to do around the 60-70 dmg range compared to my Katana's 97dmg and I think it might add up alot better. I'm refusing to attempt that maths or I'll be here all day though . But it is basically a combination of leveling, perks, gloves that add +30% one handed and high smithing on weapons that did higher base damage to begin with. Not sure if I made a mess of explaining it but I hope this helps. Smithing is a pretty important skill to have if your going to use weapons in my opinion.

@Rage: I picked the wrong word with "exploits" unfortunately I don't know the right word . I mean I rarely go to the trouble of combining really high enchanting, alchemy and smithing to get massive amounts of damage on weapons. My character isn't a master weapon maker he just knows how to produce weapons that get the job done. As my skills naturally level and enemies get tougher I will make stronger weapons though, so I'm never at the point of doing the sort of damage that other people on here can, but I do enough that I'm pretty damn dangerous. Sometimes it feels too easy the way it is so I'd only end up ruining the game for myself if I dabbled too much in enchanting and alchemy to make my smithing even better.

Modifié par Druss99, 30 décembre 2011 - 02:47 .

[Druss99]

Yrkoon wrote...

Redneck1st wrote...

Now from what I've heard from Nuaghty99 the 2 handed ebony sword you get from the whispering door quest uses the perks from the one handed weapons perk tree.

Indeed.

I wonder if that's a bug or if it's Bethesda's way of implementing Katanas.

Wasn't there talk from Bethesda before the games launch that Katana's could be used one handed or two handed? I could swear I read that. Perhaps this is what they meant.

Modifié par Druss99, 30 décembre 2011 - 02:48 .

[ReallyRue]

virumor wrote...

Interestingly, I pickpocketed Jon Battle-Born and found a note revealing he and Olfina Gray-Mane appear to have a secret tryst. Is this part of some quest?

I'm also contemplating working towards the 100 Pickpocketing perk and use it to disrobe every NPC in Skyrim.

Hah, I've never given much thought to the pickpocketing skill before, but having the population in their smallclothes seems like a marvellous idea! Tullius and Ulfric challenging each other to an underpants duel!

I wondered if there was some quest with Jon Battle-Born, though not about that. He kept mentioning he wanted to go to the Bard college, and I assumed a quest to talk to his parents about it would come up, but apparently not. Similar with Rune from the Thieves. I thought his story would lead to a quest, but it doesn't appear to. There's quite a few characters like that.

[DragonRageGT]

Druss99 wrote...
...
@Rage: I picked the wrong word with "exploits" unfortunately I don't know the right word . I mean I rarely go to the trouble of combining really high enchanting, alchemy and smithing to get massive amounts of damage on weapons. My character isn't a master weapon maker he just knows how to produce weapons that get the job done. As my skills naturally level and enemies get tougher I will make stronger weapons though, so I'm never at the point of doing the sort of damage that other people on here can, but I do enough that I'm pretty damn dangerous. Sometimes it feels too easy the way it is so I'd only end up ruining the game for myself if I dabbled too much in enchanting and alchemy to make my smithing even better.

Oh, I know, but while those can be exploited, like getting it all in a few hours of gaming, playing the game and developing those skills in some 55 level ups and 80 hours of playtime feels more like real character development to me. There are still things I cannot kill in one hit with my 15x damage sneak perk. Falmer Shadomasters, for instance. It takes two! And they give Grand Souls at my level. It was hard hard work to get there and I'm just reaping the rewards. (I would kill them with one arrow though =)

For challenge, I thought of having Rajiit doing the same as Rage did when he had all maxxed. Enchant gear and weapon that he has no proficiency at and change the role. That worked for Rage, Two Handed Warrior, to gain some levels and do some TG and DB quests with a +192% Fortify Sneak gear and sword/shield. But I didn't do it with the Khajiit. Putting a Heavy Armor (Steel Plate is in the tree of Light Armor Smithing so I could have those maxxed) and a Greatsword on my Sneaky Archer would ruin my experience with him, unlike with Rage for some reason. Maximum I let him is use dual daggers, fortify one-handed potions if needed and Marked for Death on targets. It's still challenging and fun. (playing solo, no companions for the kat.)

He does look a badazz cat, doesn't he?



But the weirdest thing happened just now when I went Werewolf on some Imperials on the road. No only the Bow is showing on his back, people are treating him just like a naked character, telling him to put some clothes on i/o going hostile on him. I passed by two hunters and that sick guy on the road said the clothes line! haha The irony of a Kat turned into a Wolf.



Forget that last one. The Hunters were not hunters and the sick man wasn't sick at all. I think he was just too smart to avoid going hostile against a Werewolf when his trap was all set waiting for the victim. Though bandits! I'm really glad I can deal the damage that I can because I had to switch to Bow. Without Sneak I can't really go Dual Daggers against a whole bunch of thugs. =)

Modifié par RageGT, 30 décembre 2011 - 03:52 .

[happy_daiz]

^ I know where that last place is. I had a feeling something was up when I stopped to pick flowers along the way, and the guy...err...bandit kept going up the hill by himself. Did you find the original occupants on the rocks below the tower?

[Yrkoon]

Now there's something I hadn't thought about. Your Khajiit can become a werewolf. In other words, he can undergo a transformation from Cat to Dog. lol

That's hilarious.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 décembre 2011 - 05:02 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Druss99 wrote...

Sidney wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

I don't really use exploits either so my character isn't overpowered which makes it continue to be fun. My twin katana's do around 114 damage, which is kind of crap compared to the 600+ I've seen others in here mention but I'd rather do that and have a challenge than one hit everything, keeps it fresh. I do one hit alot of things but I'll sometimes run into random bandits or groups that cause me problems.

How do you know how much they do? I ask because my best swords, in the hands of me or a follwer, are < 20 right now on the inventory screen (Dawnbreaker is my sword)  - I seem to recall screen caps in here of people with the 600 dmg showing in inventory.

Now, I'm a mage and have just a couple of one handed perks and am around lvl 50 on one handed but are perks and more levels enough to explain 18 vs 114? Does it explode exponentially like that?

I have all 5 base damage perks in the one handed tree and most sword based perks, gloves that add +30% one handed damage, 100 in smithing along with gloves and necklace that take it beyond that so my weapons are fairly highly smithed(I've upgraded them past legendary three times), my one-handed is around level 84 and I included enchantments into that damage calculation. My base damage is actually around 97 dmg.

Add all that together and the fact that I found Dawnbreaker to do around the 60-70 dmg range compared to my Katana's 97dmg and I think it might add up alot better. I'm refusing to attempt that maths or I'll be here all day though . But it is basically a combination of leveling, perks, gloves that add +30% one handed and high smithing on weapons that did higher base damage to begin with. Not sure if I made a mess of explaining it but I hope this helps. Smithing is a pretty important skill to have if your going to use weapons in my opinion.

@Rage: I picked the wrong word with "exploits" unfortunately I don't know the right word . I mean I rarely go to the trouble of combining really high enchanting, alchemy and smithing to get massive amounts of damage on weapons. My character isn't a master weapon maker he just knows how to produce weapons that get the job done. As my skills naturally level and enemies get tougher I will make stronger weapons though, so I'm never at the point of doing the sort of damage that other people on here can, but I do enough that I'm pretty damn dangerous. Sometimes it feels too easy the way it is so I'd only end up ruining the game for myself if I dabbled too much in enchanting and alchemy to make my smithing even better.

Dawnbreaker is still a very powerful sword.  I still carry it in my inventory for slaying Dragr.  It's effectiveness isn't so much in dmg, but in it's explosive effect...which is...significant.  But, I think you're right, my baseline dmg for it is only about 85 or something like that.  Add ring, necklace and guantlets, and the dmg goes well over a hundred.  I have perked up smithing recently, probably need to go back to the grindstone and see if there's any more I can eek out of it.

[Druss99]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Dawnbreaker is still a very powerful sword.  I still carry it in my inventory for slaying Dragr.  It's effectiveness isn't so much in dmg, but in it's explosive effect...which is...significant.  But, I think you're right, my baseline dmg for it is only about 85 or something like that.  Add ring, necklace and guantlets, and the dmg goes well over a hundred.  I have perked up smithing recently, probably need to go back to the grindstone and see if there's any more I can eek out of it.

Its ebony smithing you need to upgrade Dawnbreaker if I remember right. I left that and the nightingale blade in my chest until I could upgrade them and to be honest I was disapointed damage wise, I felt like I'd wasted my time, my smithing is 100 with 10% extra from an amulet, 20% from gloves and +5pts from notched pickaxe(not sure if that one stacks after 100) and I'm still getting around 70ish damage just to give you a reference for upgrading it and save you wasting perks if you don't think its worth it. I think I'll try your Draugr slaying tactic though, I was using a silver sword enchanted with fire but the last few dungeons its been...lacking. I had given Dawnbreaker to Jordis(I finally got her name right) and she was really struggling down in Blackreach with it so I'd to upgrade and enchant her blades katana and now she is a killing machine again.

Is that Kajiit/Werewolf thing a bug or are people genuinely supposed to confuse a bi-pedal talking cat with a growling wolfman?

[Barbarossa2010]

^Speaking of which, I have six Blades Katanas sitting in a chest somewhere. I need to pull those out and experiment with them. The only Katana in my inventory at present is Dragonbane, and use it only against dragons if I happen to be one-handing at the time.

[DragonRageGT]

Druss99 wrote...

Its ebony smithing you need to upgrade Dawnbreaker if I remember right. I left that and the nightingale blade in my chest until I could upgrade them and to be honest I was disapointed damage wise, I felt like I'd wasted my time, my smithing is 100 with 10% extra from an amulet, 20% from gloves and +5pts from notched pickaxe(not sure if that one stacks after 100) and I'm still getting around 70ish damage just to give you a reference for upgrading it and save you wasting perks if you don't think its worth it. I think I'll try your Draugr slaying tactic though, I was using a silver sword enchanted with fire but the last few dungeons its been...lacking. I had given Dawnbreaker to Jordis(I finally got her name right) and she was really struggling down in Blackreach with it so I'd to upgrade and enchant her blades katana and now she is a killing machine again.

Is that Kajiit/Werewolf thing a bug or are people genuinely supposed to confuse a bi-pedal talking cat with a growling wolfman?

If you don't have alchemy or enchanting, you should at least buy all Elixir of Warrior you can find in Alchemists' Stores. +50% One Handed damage for 60 seconds.

It is not a bug. They were part of an ambush and I think that the AI wouldn't waste them attacking a werewolf. That got me really good. I waited for the effect to pass to find out why they didn't attack me and I did. =) Funny though, I did the same quest with my previous character and I remembered nothing of it, until I was on my way to the ambush.

@Sidney - the damage bonus on items are +% indeed and they stack! Four items with +45% make my bow go from 170 base damage to 440. With a Marksman Potion +100% it goes to over 600.

[Eglyntine]

BigEvil wrote...

Been sitting going through some of my screenshots to get rid of some. I'm always amazed by the screenshots other people post as I have terrible reaction times. My screenshots often tend to be of the moment after the cool thing I wanted to actually take the screenshot of is over. Still, found a couple I thought were mildly amusing and decided to share (assuming I can get the pictures to show up in my posts so I'll just try one for now).

I walked up a mountain path somewhere in Whiterun Hold and found a shrine for Kynareth. I've always liked these shrines since first finding one for Zenithar (sp?), the one with the anvil for a symbol, amidst the ruin of an ancient building. So I approached cautiously, looking for crazy mages hiding nearby and found the following. Kynareth, Goddess of shoes...


The mages in Skyrim all seem to be just as crazy as the ones in Kirkwall, every single one I've encountered outside of the College of Winterhold and the Court Wizards has attacked me on sight. It even led to one of my characters putting an arrow in the back of Talsgar the Wanderer's head because I saw a figure in the distance using magic and immediately thought "Aaah, kill it!" All it did was make the bard angry, and you wouldn't like Talsgar when he's angry.

I even had a mad, dirty mage wearing nothing but fur pants walk into Whiterun and challenge my first character (who joined the Winterhold College while being a warrior-mage, heavy on the warrior, light on the mage) to a magic duel. I complied and thinking it was like brawling I put spells in both hands and promptly got killed twice in a row. Third time I said screw honour, pulled out my Skyforge steel war axe and chopped him up into crazy mage cubes. I wonder how the conversation with the guards outside the gate went.

Guard: "Reason for visit?"
Mage: "Hurling fireballs at the Thane of Whiterun."
Guard: "You can go in."

Thank you for this... I needed a great laugh with my coffee this morning. <3

[Druss99]

@Barbarossa: Dragonbane is one of my two katana's, its base damage when upgraded is higher than regular katana's but its enchantment is lacking and doesn't have alot of charges, upgrading regular katana's with good smithing and enchanting has been excellent for me. I'm happy enough with them in general especially from an asthetic standpoint. Haven't found many swords that I like the look of.

@ Rage: I've a few of those Elixir of Warrior potions on me, I'm saving them until I need them but the only time they have been required was when fighting Alduin and it turned out he was bugged so I couldn't do any damage at all. I'm playing on the level below Master though, I might turn it to Master if its not too tedious. I worry more for my companions than for myself.

Modifié par Druss99, 30 décembre 2011 - 06:33 .

[Fiery Knight]

Has anyone been reading the books in Skyrim? I must say, there are some books that I find to be really good. Especially Immortal Bloods. One of my favourites.

[ReallyRue]

@ Hawke_12, I love collecting those books. I've got a library full of them. I'm reading them every so often after an adventure. Like my character is coming home from a long trip, has her partner cook her a meal, reads a book, and then sleeps. Went for Cake and the Diamond, and Cabin in the Woods recently. I love the little things like that.



Weird things seem to keep happening in the world of Skyrim. Now that I got the decapitation perk on one-handed weapons, enemies launch into the air like I'm a giant. You know you're powerful when your enemies end up orbiting the planet.

Also, I went to do the Heart of Dibella quest, and instead of finding priestesses in the inner sanctum, a bunch of Hired Thugs were sat around eating and drinking. The head priestess comes over to tell me off and give me the quest, and part way through, the thugs attack. I skip through quickly so they don't kill me, but by the time the conversation was over, my Ebony Mail had poisoned them to death anyway, and the all keeled over. They must have been pretty weak! I play on Adept, but still, those are some poorly trained thugs. First a lazy trap, and then they can't even kill me while distracted? The note hiring them was from a woman called Moira too, and the only Moira I remember meeting is a hagraven of the same name. World's gone batty, it seems.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 30 décembre 2011 - 07:00 .

[Druss99]

@ ReallyRue: Moira sent thugs after me too away back at the start of the game, I met them near Riverwood and Helgen while looking for my lost dog. I've still no clue who Moira is.

[HoonDing]

I'm collecting the same book series I did in Morrowind, 2920 and Mystery of Princess Talara, but typically can't find the last elusive copies.

I also can't find Wolf Queen v6.

[happy_daiz]

^ Hmm. I have 2 copies of the Wolf Queen v6. I think one of them I got in that camp where you get the Daedric Ebony Mail...Knifepoint Ridge (from Boethiah's quest)? It's probably random loot, so who knows if it would be there again. I hope you're able to find it!

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 décembre 2011 - 07:47 .

[naughty99]

Hawke_12 wrote...

Has anyone been reading the books in Skyrim? I must say, there are some books that I find to be really good. Especially Immortal Bloods. One of my favourites.

There are some really excellent new books as well. 

In fact, the other day I found a Choose Your Own Adventure Book, so I'm playing a game, inside a book, inside a game! And it was pretty good actually.