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[Captain Crash]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

I sure hope Skyrim will have a storyline that will affect the player, emotionally. The one thing that lack, in my opinion, are emotionally-gripping storylines (Except Fallout 3). Sure, the storylines in Elder Scrolls feel triumphant but compare them to that of Bioshock or Ocarina of Time.

Im not optimistic. Your right they never quite managed it. Although what happened with Martin was a bit of a surprise I admit.

Considering the opening of Skyrim is your execution I cant see it getting very emotional at all after. If they throw that curveball in a little later on the main quest then yeah I would be getting a bit fluttered if they did it right. Nothing worse then feeling helpless.

As it is its at the start, you know the outcome, you dont even know your character yet. So an epic scene holds little emotional value. Also you cant have scenes where you constantly feel helpless its stripes away part of the feel and immersion. Like scripted NPC kills in Oblivion, the game froze while you watched them getting executed.

Emotion comes out of caring for your player and characters. This needs to be developed over time. As the games are so vast and you meet so many acquaintances I really doubt it.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 03 juillet 2011 - 08:18 .

[CroGamer002]

^Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

There was little but enough of that.

[ErichHartmann]

Morrowind, in my opinion, did provide emotional weight with factional conflict, racism, and slavery. I would go out of my way to free enslaved Khajiit when I could. Oblivion was severely lacking in this area. I simply saw everyone as sheep for me to slaughter on a whim.

[sympathy4saren]

Druss99 wrote...

It took me a couple of attempts to "defeat" Umbra. She destroyed me in seconds the first time.

I actually quite liked Umbra the sword, it was unique looking and did a decent amount of damage. I switched between that and Goldbrand because I couldn't craft my own swords. Never completed the Mages Guild because I kept getting kicked out and the demands to get back in were getting a bit much.

I didst use the Mage's Guild to enchant too often, I mostly used Sigil Stones. The effects given from crafting from Sigil Stones were better, if the stone you got fitted a need you had.

Damage Health 30% was great....I named that sword *ahem* Sovereign

[sympathy4saren]

I feel emotion in Elder Scrolls games.....the thrill of exploration.

As far as sadness or emotional connection to a character, the only one I grew attached to was Jauffre, but obviously his character wasn't even developed that much, and of course the voice actor was recycled.

In Skyrim, it'll be fascinating to see how much improvement is made in this area. We are aware of the drastic improvements in many other areas, its not far fetched to see massive improvements in characterization.

Modifié par sympathy4saren, 04 juillet 2011 - 03:20 .

[naughty99]

some comparison screens - Oblivion compared with Skyrim console (1280x720) graphics

[naughty99]

Orcs from Daggerfall to Skyrim

[bussinrounds]

I actually like the Morrowind ones best. The Oblivion ones are just terrible, and the Skyrim ones look too human, imo.

[Maria Caliban]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Morrowind, in my opinion, did provide emotional weight with factional conflict, racism, and slavery. I would go out of my way to free enslaved Khajiit when I could. Oblivion was severely lacking in this area. I simply saw everyone as sheep for me to slaughter on a whim.

Oblivion was the worst of the Elder Scrolls games. I can't imagine Skyrim being as poor in that regards.

I found myself invested in the world of Morrowind, though in a general sense as opposed to caring deeply about any characters and the PC has always been an empty cup for me. After the end of Tribunal, I liked Vivec and he's the only character I felt bad killing.

[naughty99]

Khajit evolution

[bussinrounds]

Skyrim all the way on these guys.

[GodWood]

As someone who primarily plays orcs I think the Skyrim orc looks brilliant.
Much better then the god awful Oblivion ones.

EDIT: Regarding Khajiit, I really hope they get their Morrowind feet back...

Modifié par GodWood, 04 juillet 2011 - 05:42 .

[naughty99]

Modifié par naughty99, 04 juillet 2011 - 05:48 .

[naughty99]

bussinrounds wrote...

I actually like the Morrowind ones best. The Oblivion ones are just terrible, and the Skyrim ones look too human, imo.

You prefer the character design of the Morrowind Orcs?

Modifié par naughty99, 04 juillet 2011 - 05:52 .

[Maria Caliban]

I'm more interested in advances in animation. Watching characters ice skate walk in Oblivion was painful.

I thought the cat-peeple and orcs in Oblivion looked good. It was the humans and human races that tended too look wrong. Do you have any Bosimer or dark elf shots?

[bussinrounds]

As far as the Orcs go,  i liked the 2nd one from left on that earlier pic. This Morrowind one, not as much.

Modifié par bussinrounds, 04 juillet 2011 - 06:04 .

[naughty99]

Modifié par naughty99, 04 juillet 2011 - 06:09 .

[bussinrounds]

The Daggerfall one had nipples ?

[naughty99]

bussinrounds wrote...

The Daggerfall one had nipples ?

apparently so!

this was from a post on gamespot forums, not sure exactly, but I think the first one is either Daggerfall or Arena

[GodWood]

Daggerfall had a fair bit of 'nudity'

[Godak]

GodWood wrote...

Daggerfall had a fair bit of 'nudity'

Oh no! My innocence!

[naughty99]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'm more interested in advances in animation. Watching characters ice skate walk in Oblivion was painful.

Walking Animation Comparison

Sneaking Animation Comparison

Archery, Melee and Spell Animations Comparison

Funny Gamebryo Diagonal Walking

Modifié par naughty99, 04 juillet 2011 - 06:44 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Definitely Khajiit for my first playthrough. Definitely.

[KenKenpachi]

sympathy4saren wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

It took me a couple of attempts to "defeat" Umbra. She destroyed me in seconds the first time.

I actually quite liked Umbra the sword, it was unique looking and did a decent amount of damage. I switched between that and Goldbrand because I couldn't craft my own swords. Never completed the Mages Guild because I kept getting kicked out and the demands to get back in were getting a bit much.

I didst use the Mage's Guild to enchant too often, I mostly used Sigil Stones. The effects given from crafting from Sigil Stones were better, if the stone you got fitted a need you had.

Damage Health 30% was great....I named that sword *ahem* Sovereign

Hmm I just  snuck up and bashed her in the head a few times with my sword. Lulz easy win. And I gave the Sword to the Daedric prince. I didn't need it.

As to the new Art style, Love it, looks much better. I just hope they do as well with the other races we haven't seen yet.

[ErichHartmann]

bussinrounds wrote...

The Daggerfall one had nipples ?

Speaking of nudity.....my character in Daggerfall. :innocent:

img717.imageshack.us/img717/1175/dosbox2011070408191301.jpg

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 04 juillet 2011 - 02:27 .