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[Haplose]

Well, not only Destruction Master level spells are dissapointing, if that's any consolation. How about Illusion, where you can't dual-cast Master levels spells, which means they can only affect lower level enemies, compared with Expert/Adept spells?

[Yrkoon]

Aradace wrote...

Haplose wrote...

Well I don't know about it. Haven't tested that... well maybe I will in a few levels, when I get Destruction a bit higher. But looking at spell descriptions in the wiki, it seems they have to specifically call for the effect in order for it to activate.
It doesn't seem to apply to Lightning Rune and Lightning Cloak, for example. So I kind of doubt this would work.

Kind of feared as much.  Oh well lol.

@Yrkoon -
Dont know why that affects your computer

  It doesn't.  But  I've yet to play as an ash pile-making mage anyway, so I have no personal test results.  But just a brief perusal of the tech  forums  at Bethesda's boards makes it clear that it's aparently an  issue for lots of players, on multiple platforms.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 16 janvier 2012 - 02:47 .

[Aradace]

Yrkoon wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Haplose wrote...

Well I don't know about it. Haven't tested that... well maybe I will in a few levels, when I get Destruction a bit higher. But looking at spell descriptions in the wiki, it seems they have to specifically call for the effect in order for it to activate.
It doesn't seem to apply to Lightning Rune and Lightning Cloak, for example. So I kind of doubt this would work.

Kind of feared as much.  Oh well lol.

@Yrkoon -
Dont know why that affects your computer

  It doesn't.  But  I've yet to play as an ash pile-making mage anyway, so I have no personal test results.  But just a brief perusal of the tech  forums  at Bethesda's boards makes it clear that it's aparently an  issue for lots of players, on multiple platforms.

Sucks to be them I guess

[Giggles_Manically]

The only time I ever use Lightning Storm is when I am bored really.
I did use it during the civil war and got a kick out of saying: IM A FIRIN MAH LAZZERRR!!!

It just came out but it is fitting when using that spell.
I think I will master conjuration next.

My goal is to level all the spells so I can do all the master level quests.
So that you know I actually have a good reason for feeling like the arch mage.

[happy_daiz]

G'morning, everyone! What did I miss over the weekend? *scanning through pages of posts*

What is up with couriers not wearing clothes anymore? The last TWO that ran up to me over the weekend with messages were only wearing a loincloth, boots, and a hat.


Also, I got to see J'Zargo without a hood (he equipped a tiara...err, circlet). In addition to the extra suave facial hair, he's got a heck of a mane.

[Yrkoon]

Other Courier tidbits I noticed:

-Bandits stationed atop fort walls will take potshots at couriers who are passing by. And kill them in one hit.

-Then, when you loot said courier, you'll find a vaguely written  letter from one anonymous party to another, vaguely discussing one party's  frustration at the other party's inability to secure  some unspecified treasure contained in a cave   somewhere near Whiterun.

It's all very vague.  Makes you wish  people would  learn to send more specific missives via courier.  It's not hard, citizens of Skyrim.  Let me show you how it's done:


To:    Jack, of the Solitude Bard's College
From: Yrkoon, of Riften


 Dear Jack,

14 days ago, I hired you to travel to  Shimmermist cave, just northeast of Whiterun, and recover 10 falmer ears, 238  gold, 3 flawless amethysts, and an Ebony   Mace of Burning.    What's taking you so long?  Do I have to go clear that cave out myself?  Please write back with an update on your progress, or I'll hire one of the Companions  in Jorvaskar to do the job instead.

--Yrkoon.

^See that?  Clear, specific, concise.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 16 janvier 2012 - 03:47 .

[Dominus]

In case anyone somehow missed this:

Skyrim: 2012

[happy_daiz]

^ Props to the couriers; what a dangerous profession! Now that you mention it, I have seen them get sniped by bandits, and have also looted their bodies and found that note. Then I immediately forgot all about it. I swear, Bethesda put butterflies in Skyrim just to distract me.

Wow, Yrkoon, I love your sig! Too bad that milk drinker can't spell.

[Giggles_Manically]

You know I kind of feel a bit on the evil side about the civil war know.

I mean I was tossing lightning around and using a dragon on those poor Stormcloaks.
I mean yeah it was war and all...but I kind of wonder if killing over 200 people in such a short order really would not affect someone.

Although Odahviing probably had the time of his life what with trashing a couple forts, and an army or two.

[Gotholhorakh]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Destruction Master level spells are a gigantic let down.

Blizzard does nothing.
Fire Storm takes WAY to long to charge.

Also Lightning Storm is easily interrupted.
Its just like....why are spells that are lower on the totem so much better?

Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Firebolt, and Ice Storm remain very handy spells while the master ones do not.

Yeah, agreed - I think Ice Spike with dual cast+impact is one of the most useful spells in the game, it's always nice to see how many things are slowed down by it, and you can just cast duals of it forever like firebolt, which I prefer to meatier fire spells for the same reason - and flames up the backside make short work of dragons up close

That said, it's when you augment them with spells from other schools that things work out really well I think - judiciously applied Impact in combination with a couple of atronachs, stoneskin and bound sword for instance.

In a way, the desire for extra damage makes the "obvious choice" school of spells for battle (and I bet we do mostly tend to go for Dest first for offensive casters) something you branch out from and add to. It sort of balances out Destruction, because two or three uber dest spells would make for quite monotonous play.

[Giggles_Manically]

I admit if I do have an opening I do use Lightning Storm to start with.
Shame that it gets stopped by a single power attack.

I really hate the charge time though since no other spells need it in the school.
But ah well power up let downs are kind of common.

[Sarquindi]

I've barely cast any spells, so far. :/ Aside from illusion, which I use every now and then. I may create a Nord mage... Right after my Argonian warrior! I lizard people!

[HoonDing]

Why does every single Imperial male in Skyrim look like James Purefoy? Even Tullius is not immune.

[happy_daiz]

Uinen03 wrote...

I've barely cast any spells, so far. :/ Aside from illusion, which I use every now and then. I may create a Nord mage... Right after my Argonian warrior! I lizard people!

I use Illusion for every character now, regardless of build. It's mostly just habit - I cast Muffle constantly, shout a little (Marked for Death), cast Frenzy if there's a group, then come in with my mace or sword blazing to clean up the stragglers.

I also find myself using Alchemy and Enchanting a lot lately:

Why sell an improved weapon for a few septims, when you can make a ton of cash by simply enchanting it with Absorb Health, or whatever tickles your fancy, then selling it?

And why enchant at whatever level you are at, when you can brew a potion to enhance it?

If you decide to keep the weapon, why use just the enchantment, when you can apply your own poison to it?

It's a vicious cycle, and I'm hooked. And rich. 

Modifié par happy_daiz, 16 janvier 2012 - 06:59 .

[Addai]

It's a side effect of the bowl haircut.

[blaidfiste]

I'm loving the elemental fury shout. Reminds me of DA2 combat speed.

[Elhanan]

Elhanan wrote....

Inquiry: The Amulet found at Saarthal seems to have boosted my Magika usage far more than 3%, but it does have a limit. If Disenchanted, will this effect be able to be added to a new item? Will this superior effect hold?

Note: While fighting a magic tossing Undead, in one reload, it was conjuring Frost elementals thru solid walls at my character. This lead to me trying to do the same in another attempt with Fire elementals, and it works.

FWIW; it won both tries, and I went with a Shout/ DW Spark combo with potion chasers FTW.

Thought I would ask again on a new page....

My Dark Elf mage was going as a Destructionist; very frustrating for play, and ended up using Illusion and Conjuration much of the time instead.

This current Breton mage is going to take perks from several Schools, and play as a generalist. And I may take the Destruction perks that only boost the Novice spells, as I am unable to aim Ice Spike and others very well at all. Thus far, and with Archery as an alternative long range solution, is far less problematic. And way more fun!

Modifié par Elhanan, 16 janvier 2012 - 06:55 .

[Jane Shepard]

I can't do without magic. My Imperial is a Warrior-Mage. Well, actually she is a mage with one-handed or two-handed sword. Most favorite magic power is fire. I really like to use a combination of magic and weapons!

[Sarquindi]

happy_daiz wrote...

Uinen03 wrote...

I've barely cast any spells, so far. :/ Aside from illusion, which I use every now and then. I may create a Nord mage... Right after my Argonian warrior! I lizard people!

I use Illusion for every character now, regardless of build. It's mostly just habit - I cast Muffle constantly, shout a little (Marked for Death), cast Frenzy if there's a group, then come in with my mace or sword blazing to clean up the stragglers.

I also find myself using Alchemy and Enchanting a lot lately:

Why sell an improved weapon for a few septims, when you can make a ton of cash by simply enchanting it with Absorb Health, or whatever tickles your fancy, then selling it?

And why enchant at whatever level you are at, when you can brew a potion to enhance it?

If you decide to keep the weapon, why use just the enchantment, when you can apply your own poison to it?

It's a vicious cycle, and I'm hooked. And rich. 

I do the same.   I was playing a stealthy character, so I was using muffle a lot!  I used restoration a little, but I seem to use potions and food more often.  Haven't even touched destruction or Alteration.

I maxed out Enchanting and Smithing.  Enchanted weapons DID sell for a LOT more!  My character is filthy rich, as well!   I used Alchemy a lot, but I haven't put any perks in it.  I may do that, for my next character! 

[happy_daiz]

^ You can make a ton of cash using that method. I was up over 70,000 septims with my Nord warrior in just a couple of days, without really even trying. If you can make poisons worth a few hundred septims and sell them, why not?


I haven't maxed out the Alchemy tree yet; in fact, I usually use just a couple of points for Alchemy perks, but it's worth it for stronger potions. They can save you in a pinch.

I've been using Alteration in my current playthrough; it's actually quite handy. I mostly use it for the Oak/Stone/Ironflesh spells right now, but I'm looking forward to using Paralyze.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:12 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Well now that I am finally getting into the higher level spells for the other schools its getting very fun.

This is something that the Companions missed out on.
The Theives and the Mages both let you do master level stuff and get some cool quests.

Nothing like that for the companions.

[billy the squid]

Which character are you using the alchemy and enchanting perks on Happy? Although it is a great source of income.

I tend to stock up on better armours and jewllery when I'm exploring and collect a load of soul gems from animals, enchant them and then sell the armour for nice shiny gold, and I get my enchantment up to boot.

I've not decided whether to go for alchemy or archery with the perks yet my skill level on archery is fairly high at 80, but as I've nearly maxed out theenchantment, single handed, heavy armour and smithing skills, although not taken all the perks, I'm considering mixing things up a little and selecting archery.

[Swoo]

Elhanan wrote...
This current Breton mage is going to take perks from several Schools, and play as a generalist. And I may take the Destruction perks that only boost the Novice spells, as I am unable to aim Ice Spike and others very well at all. Thus far, and with Archery as an alternative long range solution, is far less problematic. And way more fun!

Remember to fight dirty ;P 

I liked using the Time Stop shout until I had the whole leading them thing down pat, and since I was investing heavily into Alteration for the mage armor and magicka protection perks when I picked up Paralyze it...was...on. I love Deathlords standing at attention and falling to the ground like planks. Very easy to hit that way too ;P

Illusion is very, very nice for long range magic sniping as well when you combine spells like Muffle or Invisibility with Quiet Casting. Very easy to line up the opening shot, and with impact you can basically keep thumping them until dead.

Edit: And for the people talking about Destruction damage lacking, don't forget your weakness potions. I'm cool with a campaign for more Mage damage though

Modifié par Swoo, 16 janvier 2012 - 09:09 .

[happy_daiz]

billy the squid wrote...

Which character are you using the alchemy and enchanting perks on Happy? Although it is a great source of income.

I tend to stock up on better armours and jewllery when I'm exploring and collect a load of soul gems from animals, enchant them and then sell the armour for nice shiny gold, and I get my enchantment up to boot.

I've not decided whether to go for alchemy or archery with the perks yet my skill level on archery is fairly high at 80, but as I've nearly maxed out theenchantment, single handed, heavy armour and smithing skills, although not taken all the perks, I'm considering mixing things up a little and selecting archery.

All of them.  I'm playing character #7, an Imperial spellsword named Serenity (who looks almost exactly like Vex of the TG, which is what I was going for).

I keep thinking that when I start a new character, I'll change my play style, but honestly, I only end up tweaking and refining the existing style. My pure mage is the only one that deviates from the archer/thief/assassin/mage build I keep ending up with. In my first playthrough, I started as a pure mage, then became a 1-handed spellsword. The only things I've added, or am doing differently by #7 is that I added a shield, more Illusion and Alteration, plus Archery. I always use Enchanting, Smithing, and Alchemy.

I'm not loving light armor anymore, though. This character feels like a pin cushion compared to my last character - a Nord 2-handed warrior, that wears heavy armor. And it seems like Smithing is taking forever to level up. *sigh* Maybe it's that I hate all of the light armors, with the exception of any of the TG armors and Dragonscale. The others are just so...meh.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 16 janvier 2012 - 09:09 .

[Sarquindi]

I'll give that a shot! Alchemy was always one of my major skills, in Oblivion.

I forgot about Conjuration, as well. I may experiment with that, when I create a mage.

Does anyone know of a decent way to level your speechcraft? I got mine to 75, but now it's taking soooo long to level! D: It seems to only level after I have sold a million potions! XD