Yrkoon wrote...
Refused to *sit* down too. I, for one, used to have a lot of respect for Ulfric, and didn't understand the hatred that players had for him (because, frankly, he carries himself fairly well when you encounter him in the beginning of the game, and later on in Windhelm he speaks logically, and seems to understand the situation completely) But... The truce talks, wow. I just got done negotiating him control of Markarth. You'd think he'd be happy with that. But no, the moment you announce the other side of the swap, he suddenly calls you the enemy. WTF. They're truce talks, Ulfric, not "lets give everything to the Stormcloaks" talks.
And they're also a meeting of civilized adult leaders. Sit your ass down!
Considering that Elenwen seems to be the one who tortured him, I can see why Jarl Ulfric would have an issue with her presence at the peace talks. I wouldn't want to tolerate having to deal with the man or woman who tortured me, either, especially when the person is not instrumental in negotiating the peace talks.
And I believe allowing Elenwen to stay, or removing her from the peace talks, determines whether General Ulfric or Tullius are happy or displeased with the progression of the peace talks. I recall someone a while back addressing that removing Elenwen from the peace table, and giving Tullius
everything he demanded during the peace talks, still had him irate with the Dragonborn.
To be honest, while I see Ulfric as a flawed leader (as well as Tullius), I respected that his aim as to deal with the Thalmor. It's made apparent during his speech at the end of the Battle of Solitude:
"I am indeed Ulfric Stormcloak, and at my side the man we know as Stormblade, and the world knows as the Dragonborn.
"And indeed, there are many that call us heroes. But it is all of you who are the true heroes! It was you who faught a dying Empire who sunk its claws into our land, trying to drag us down with it. It was you who fought the Thalmor and their puppets who would have us deny our gods and our heritage. It was you who fought your kin who didn't understand our cause, who weren't willing to pay the price of our freedom. But more than that, it was you who fought for Skyrim, for our right to fight our own battles... to return to our glory and traditions, to determine our own future!
"And it is for these reasons that I cannot accept the mantle of 'High King.' Not until the Moot declares that title should adorn my shoulders will I accept it.
"Yes, what about the Lady Elisif? Will she put aside her personal hatred for me, and her misplaced love for the Emperor and his coin, so that the suffering of our people will end? Will she acknowledge that it is we Nord's who will determine Skyrim's future? Will she swear fealty to me, so that all may know that we are at peace, and a new day has dawned?
Jarl Elisif the Fair responds, "I do!"
"Then it is settled. The Jarl will continue to rule Solitude, I will garrison armies here to ward off Imperial attempts to reclaim the city. And in due time, the Moot will meet, and settle the claim to High King once and for all.
"There is much to do, and I need every able bodied man and woman committed to rebuilding Skyrim. A great darkness is growing, and soon we will be called to fight it, on these shores or abroad. The Aldmeri Dominion may have defeated the Empire, but it has not...defeated... Skyrim!"
Furthermore, Ulfric makes his concern for the Thalmor threat clear when he's speaking to Galmar privately. "What I fear, is that the Thalmor will see our victory here and turn greater attention to our shores. We must be prepared to face them."
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Enjoy the game and I will catch you all sometime tomorrow hopefully. Have a good Friday!
