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[Addai]

I guess the special perks don't mean that much to me, not when I kill draugr in a couple swipes anyway. I suppose it would be a good sword if you got it early in the game.

[Giggles_Manically]

Delphine wins the award for dumb ass of the year.
She says that the Blades are still going to one day kill Paarthurnax...right like this:
http://cloud.steampo...C6D8A2317D2C80/

Okay lady...you are talking to guys who when they WHISPER can shake a mountain.
If they were not dedicated to peace I have a feeling that you would be shouted into paste right then and there. Because insulting a group of people who can kill with words is such a brilliant idea.

Also if anything Alduin is the one who put me on this path more than the blades.
The Blades? A foot note at most I believe.

[Redneck1st]

Addai67 wrote...

I guess the special perks don't mean that much to me, not when I kill draugr in a couple swipes anyway. I suppose it would be a good sword if you got it early in the game.

Well with Dawnstar I pretter much kill things within 2 to 3 hits, less if I'm stealthed as I do 6 times damage. My Daedrc dagger we won't talk about the damage that I can do with that and its even worse when I'm stealthed.


Now my Daedric bow does 469 pts of damage +55 pts of fire damage. And when I'm stealthed it does 3x's the damage. So I pretty much can go through the game and one shot everything running on master level.

Now you folks really want to have some fun? Next time your in Riverwood during the day take out one of the chicken using your favorite weapon or spell.<G> Remember it's better to do it during the day.

[Redneck1st]

Giggles- I don't think she could take them down if she had a whole army at her back. You ever try to attack the greybreads? I have just to see what would happen and believe me it wasn't pretty for my female Nord.<LOL>

[Giggles_Manically]

One day they are bound to try.

Still cant choose who to support on my Orc right now.

One the one hand fighting for a home land does make him want to support the Stormcloaks.
On the other hand many Orcs fight in the Legion and are loyal to the Empire.
Also some Stormcloaks dont sound happy in Windhelm talking about the Orc stronghold in Eastmarch.
I've no problem with Orcs. But that stronghold they've got in the southeast? Narzulbur? It's an affront to my people."

The MAN might be okay, but his followers are not.

[Addai]

I just finished the legion quests on my orc. I tried to roleplay it as straight as I could, but even so I couldn't help but feel she'd regret fighting people who just want to rule themselves and who want to fight the Thalmor rather than bend over for them. Unless you're really a royalist (or imperialist, I guess), you have to see that the empire is not what it used to be when a two-bit officer in Helgen can just execute someone without a trial. That was even more evident on my orc whom I was roleplaying as a legion veteran. Honestly at that point I think she could have joined the Stormcloaks with a clear conscience. Loyalty needs to go two ways.

Tullius' dialogue during the final scene in Windhelm really ground my gears. I can't imagine even my orc liked to hear him boast he was going to send Ulfric's head to Cyrodiil so it could be put on a spike outside the palace.

I never heard that dialogue about Narzulbur. I did have to shake my head at Yamarz calling me a "worthless city orc." I told him to fight his own giant. He must have been reduced to pulp because I couldn't even find a body to loot.

[Addai]

I'm glad I played it through, if only to make me like the Stormcloaks more

Wasn't that impressed with Mede, but at least he didn't grovel.

Tullius... yeah. Not a fan.

Modifié par Addai67, 06 février 2012 - 05:06 .

[Elhanan]

Only main leader I like is the Emperor, and he will end up on the wrong end of a DB quest. But after playing the Stormcloaks a single time, and seeing the continued ruin in Whiterun, the remaining Civil War quests will have me on the Imperials side.

While they have many scurvy leaders, they also have several that are decent citizens, and almost have enough clout to balance the scales.Not even close on team Ulfric, where it is their way or death. Plus the enitire Grey Quarter, anti-Argonian/ Khajiit attitude in Windhelm simply pushes me to thrash them as much as the drunken bully.

Here is to seeing Ulfric in Sovngarde.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Elhanan wrote...

Only main leader I like is the Emperor, and he will end up on the wrong end of a DB quest. But after playing the Stormcloaks a single time, and seeing the continued ruin in Whiterun, the remaining Civil War quests will have me on the Imperials side.

While they have many scurvy leaders, they also have several that are decent citizens, and almost have enough clout to balance the scales.Not even close on team Ulfric, where it is their way or death. Plus the enitire Grey Quarter, anti-Argonian/ Khajiit attitude in Windhelm simply pushes me to thrash them as much as the drunken bully.

Here is to seeing Ulfric in Sovngarde.

He didn't go...I killed Ulfric long before I went there to pay my respects to Alduin.


Summary: ULFRIC WASN'T A TRUE NORD!! (the former high king was there).

[Joy Divison]

Angus Cousland wrote...

There are actually compelling reasons to join them from a political standpoint, especially for an ambitious Dragonborn with his/her eyes set on the Imperial throne. A Dragonborn might have a legitimate claim to the throne, and assassinating Titus Mede would ensure there's a vacant throne for you to fill (he doesn't have an heir as far as I'm aware).

I dunno.  I'm not sure I'd want to take the throne of a decaying Empire.  And Miss "I said, next prisoner!" in Helgen makes it really tough to ever join their side...especially since if you go into the keep with Ralof you gut that ****

[Joy Divison]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

He didn't go...I killed Ulfric long before I went there to pay my respects to Alduin.


Summary: ULFRIC WASN'T A TRUE NORD!! (the former high king was there).

I thought I read somewhere that he and Galmar where there and commented on seeing you again.

[Tommy6860]

I finally came up with what I thought was an apropos description of what Skyrim is to me. Seriously, I don't want to argue about it, as everyone will have different experiences with games, but I found this so appropriately funny.

Modifié par Tommy6860, 06 février 2012 - 06:24 .

[Cyberarmy]

Tommy6860 wrote...

I finally came up with what I thought was an apropos description of what Skyrim is to me. Seriously, I don't want to argue about it, as everyone will have different experiences with games, but I found this so appropriately funny.

Hehe spot on
Only game gave me this feeling nowadays was Dark/Demon souls, the rest was just a walk in the park.

[Addai]

I find plenty of difficulty, but I suppose I'm a milk drinker.

@ Drunk Canadian: Ulfric does appear in Sovngarde. You obviously didn't find him in the mist.

I wouldn't want to be emperor, either.  Cyrodiil needs to sort itself out.  I don't kick the empire out of Skyrim just to set up another empire of my own.  I think it's time for Tamriel to try a different way.

Modifié par Addai67, 06 février 2012 - 08:37 .

[Haplose]

Yeah, the game can become pretty challenging past level 20 or so untill you sort your magic resistance issues via perks/stones/equipment. It can still be quite challenging afterwards if you're a squishy mage or some such, who gets one-shotted by stray arrows.
Actually it's fun to be a little squishy, rather then steamroll all content with a two-hander.

And in my crpgs I hate the "Big Bad Boss" design, where end-level enemies have inflated hitpoints of a zillion minions and hit like a truck. End level/game enemies should still operate under the very same rulesets the player characters use.
My absolutely favourite combat encounters were player character party vs NPC party battles in BG2. Some modules in NWN2 also came close with party vs party battles (Legacy of White Plume Mountain comes to mind).

[Yrkoon]

LOL that little   2-year-old graphic is, well, it doesn't apply to ES games. The End Boss in Arena (Jagger Tharne, or some such?) was... Nothing. He was a standard mage that could be cornered and  killed in a few hits.  (he was actually less powerful than some of the  garden variety Undead spell casters you could face much earlier in the game)  And the game constantly gave you messages like "the X is near" whenever you were close to reaching  a dungeon's end boss. And the ending? Has Anyone here actually  played any RPGs from 1994? Cut scenes? HA! No. Slide show presentations? Nope. Dramatic voice actor belting out an epilogue in a booming voice? Nope.

At best you got a  little still shot of a 'peaceful' place, like  a well-lit cabin in the woods (Arena), or a beach front view of the sea with words at the bottom of the screen saying "you saved the world, good job!". At worst, you wouldn't even get that. Just a black screen with  "The End" or "Play again!"

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 février 2012 - 11:23 .

[Carcharoth42]

That's not 250 damage on the sword. It's 250156800.

Modifié par Carcharoth42, 06 février 2012 - 11:30 .

[Redneck1st]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

One day they are bound to try.

Still cant choose who to support on my Orc right now.

One the one hand fighting for a home land does make him want to support the Stormcloaks.
On the other hand many Orcs fight in the Legion and are loyal to the Empire.
Also some Stormcloaks dont sound happy in Windhelm talking about the Orc stronghold in Eastmarch.
I've no problem with Orcs. But that stronghold they've got in the southeast? Narzulbur? It's an affront to my people."

The MAN might be okay, but his followers are not.

Yes but trying and suceeding are two different things.<G> 

Well with my last play through I went with the side of the imperials. Playing a female Nord this tiem through I might have to go with the Strom cloaks. At least for the sake of role playing.

Now I do got one question for folks. After you escape Helgren after your attempted execution how early in the game do you do the civil war quests? Do you take sides and joion right away or do you wait til much later in the game? As for me I've not been doing the Civil war til about level 40 or so but was curious as to everyone elses thoughts about it? I'm considering starting it much earlier in my next play through so that I can get the house in Windhelm earlier.

[Cyberarmy]

Nah ES games were always easy without moding. At morrowind where enemies stop scaling at 30 you became god-like. And in Oblivion with using spellmaking you become the next Vivec

I agree with Haplose on end-level enemiy matter, BG,Icewind, Fallout1-2,tactics, Planescape have the best combat experience. Even in mid levels, you can hold person/fear another party and defeat them easliy while they can do the same thing to you.

Still remember, my little wastelanders horrible deaths from critical strikes. Dancing to his death with rhythm of lead
And never finished doom 2 without cheating at last level

[Yrkoon]

Carcharoth42 wrote...



That's not 250 damage on the sword. It's 250156800.

Ha! I think you might be able to sell that poison to the trader in Riverwood.... After you buy his entire inventory 25,000 times.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 février 2012 - 11:32 .

[HoonDing]

Angus Cousland wrote...

I must be one of the few who finds the "plight" of the Dark Elves to be blown way out of proportion, and afford them little sympathy. Truly oppressed peoples wouldn't be allowed to live in comfortable homes, own and operate successful businesses, and be treated respectfully by all but a handful of individuals.

The same goes for all "foreigners" in Windhelm, even the High Elves (of all people). So all of the cries of racism and oppression fall on deaf ears here on my end.

Also, Khajiit aren't allowed in any city in Skyrim (including Solitude), not just Windhelm.

The Dunmer are grudgingly tolerated by the Nords, because other than wiping them out they have no other choice than letting them do whatever they want in their ghetto.

Read Scourge of the Gray Quarter

Compare with Dunmer of Skyrim

[Redneck1st]

Carcharoth42- Yes but why would you need a weapon that does that much damage or a poison that does what your's does? Even playing the game on Master I've never had a reason to need somehting like that there.

[goofyomnivore]

Nobody really likes the Dunmer though as I understand it, or is that the Bosmer? But you have a point on the Altmer being treated better than expected. However the handling of the Altmer in Skyrim is kind of meh imo, especially as the player character.