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[Yrkoon]

For Boethiah's quest I usually sacrifice one of the two companions you can pick up in riverwood, either Sven or Freindal.

On an unrelated note, I've fixed the marriage issue once and for all in Skyrim.  I downloaded the Marry  (and divorce, and remarry) anyone  mod.  Now I can  marry  Anneke Crag-jumper, and when I want to move on, I can divorce her and marry Ingin Black-Briar.   And when I get tired of her, I  might even marry Fjola the Bandit boss. 

Modifié par Yrkoon, 24 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[Addai]

It just doesn't sit right with me- asking someone to come along to watch your back and then turning them over to a daedric prince. Doesn't Boethiah also get their souls? Feh. I've never played a daedra worshipper, just various sorts of neutrals who are in it for power.

All of you people and your divorces. lol I have simple needs. Ulfric will do the trick!

[Yrkoon]

Addai67 wrote...


All of you people and your divorces. lol I have simple needs. Ulfric will do the trick!

Well, I'm not completely giddy about the notion of marrying an NPC then later sending them on their way, either, but until Bethesda encorporates dating, my Orc will simply  have to be content with using the console to simulate 'playing  the field'.

And hey, I might one day take the same route as you, only I'll marry Elisif instead.   She is single now, I hear. lol

Modifié par Yrkoon, 24 mars 2012 - 01:21 .

[Elhanan]

I sacrificed the self acclaimed killer that hangs out in The Drunken Huntsman. Also killed all the followers there, and at the Champion's location. I call this Orc justice: Speak softly, and carry a big sword, axe, or maul....

[Addai]

Elhanan wrote...

I sacrificed the self acclaimed killer that hangs out in The Drunken Huntsman.

Jenassa? 

Boethiah can kiss my pasty Nord ass.  She/ he/ it is not getting any of my henchmen.  I won't do Molag Bal's dirty work either.  I like screwing the daedra over, to me that's more fun.

Modifié par Addai67, 24 mars 2012 - 05:56 .

[Elhanan]

Addai67 wrote...

Jenassa? 

Boethiah can kiss my pasty Nord ass.  She/ he/ it is not getting any of my henchmen.  I won't do Molag Bal's dirty work either.  I like screwing the daedra over, to me that's more fun.

I did, but also got rid of someone that seemingly had no qualms of murder and other acts of mayhem. However, I aplogize if she is a friend; can understand after seeing her stuck on the Daedric device how easy it would be to become so 'attached' to her....

[Yrkoon]

There's a couple more Daedric quests that don't register on the "evil" scale.... or rather,  they don't  ask pious characters to stretch the limits of their morality.

1) Malacath's Quest.  In fact, this particular Daedric quest is unique in that the single most rewarding way to complete it is to Be GOOD.  Ie,  turn down a deception/lie, and kill the deceiver, while saving his otherwise innocent clan  from a  nasty curse.

2) Hermaeus Mora's quest.  You don't have to kill anyone or ruin anyone's life in any way.  Mora does it himself, and he does it without the player knowing that he will, so... no morality check needed.    And who cares anyway.   There are  no morals  important enough to  keep me from getting the  Oghma Infinitium! 

Modifié par Yrkoon, 24 mars 2012 - 03:20 .

[Elhanan]

Yrkoon wrote...

There's a couple more Daedric quests that don't register on the "evil" scale.... or rather,  they don't  ask pious characters to stretch the limits of their morality.

1) Malacath's Quest.  In fact, this particular Daedric quest is unique in that the single most rewarding way to complete it is to Be GOOD.  Ie,  turn down a deception/lie, and kill the deceiver, while saving his otherwise innocent clan  from a  nasty curse.

2) Hermaeus Mora's quest.  You don't have to kill anyone or ruin anyone's life in any way.  Mora does it himself, and he does it without the player knowing that he will, so... no morality check needed.    And who cares anyway.   There are  no morals  important enough to  keep me from getting the  Oghma Infinitium! 

1- One does not even have to kill the deceiver; defy him, and he runs into battle, and gets himself killed.

2- No killing needed; one may even stick a thumb into the big one-eyed Daedra, and still keep the reward.

And personally, I did not sacrifice a henchman for the Ebony mail; I allowed a professed killer to die to keep the armor out of the hands of the Daedric lord.

[Yrkoon]

Oh sh**. I forgot Meridia's Quest.   That's another one that isn't the least bit morally questionable to good-leaning  characters.   It's far from it.    Her quest resembles something you'd have your Paladin do in a D&D game: Kill a Necromancer and cleanse a temple of its walking dead inabitants.   Nothing wrong with this.  My  Dovakiin has been making a living doing precicely that all over  the place in Skyrim.  If doing such a thing  by  specific request means gaining the favor of a Daedric Prince, then why not.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 24 mars 2012 - 06:53 .

[Elhanan]

Yrkoon wrote...

Oh sh**. I forgot Meridia's Quest.   That's another one that isn't the least bit morally questionable to good-leaning  characters.   It's far from it.    Her quest resembles something you'd have your Paladin do in a D&D game: Kill a Necromancer and cleanse a temple of its walking dead inabitants.   Nothing wrong with this.  My  Dovakiin has been making a living doing precicely that all over  the place in Skyrim.  If doing such a thing  by  specific request means gaining the favor of a Daedric Prince, then why not.

Well, I am personally a bit hesitant to tell her off like some others, as I am a bit scared of falling from such great heights! But yeah!

[Addai]

greengoron89 wrote...

LOL. You have far more moral integrity than I do, I guess - only Daedric Princes who can kiss my ass (so far - I haven't done all the Daedra quests) are Mehrunes Dagon, Vaermina, and Namira. Sheogorath, Azura, and Hircine are alright in my book.

And though I don't enjoy the prospect of helping Boethiah and Molag Bal, one puny soul is worth it for the Ebony Mail IMHO - and I'll shed no tears over the eternal damnation of some Daedric priest.

I don't see it as moral integrity, it's just some things get under my skin.  The daedra always treat humanity like playthings and servants, but some of the daedra rub it in your face more than others.

Of course, part of this is that I don't really care about their artifacts.    I worship at the altar of Modder Bal, in the Oblivion realm known as the Nexus.  I can craft my own ebony chainmail and enchant it to my liking.

@ Elhanan- The stance against assassins is not very Tamrielic.  In Morrowind assassins are just part of the political landscape and fairly accepted AFAIK.  Anyway not like the dovahkiin doesn't slaughter more than all the Morag Tong combined by the time he/she is done.  But yeah, I do just like Jenassa- she will probably end up my current PC's wife.

Modifié par Addai67, 24 mars 2012 - 10:39 .

[Joy Divison]

greengoron89 wrote...

I do admit some of the Daedric quests make me choke up on the final decision points - particularly Taste of Death, Pieces of the Past, and Waking Nightmare. Never could bring myself to kill Silus or Erandur - and I could only will myself to continue playing after completing Taste of Death once.

Other Daedric quests I've done weren't too bad - and sacrificing some cur to Boethiah shouldn't be too much trouble as long as I can find someone I'm comfortable doing that to.

On a slightly related note, did anyone find Malacath's voice to be hilariously absurd? He talks like a damn professional wrestler, for crying out loud - half-expected him to shout "SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!" when I heard him talk the first few times.

I'm just poking fun here, but I think if you re-read your statement "and sacrificing some cur to Boethiah shouldn't be too much trouble as long as I can find someone I'm comfortable doing that to" is quite funny in an ironic way considering the overall scruples you indicated involved in the Daedric questlines

Modifié par Joy Divison, 25 mars 2012 - 12:42 .

[Elhanan]

Addai67 wrote...*snip*

@ Elhanan- The stance against assassins is not very Tamrielic.  In Morrowind assassins are just part of the political landscape and fairly accepted AFAIK.  Anyway not like the dovahkiin doesn't slaughter more than all the Morag Tong combined by the time he/she is done.  But yeah, I do just like Jenassa- she will probably end up my current PC's wife.

As an Orc (or most of my honorable Dragonborn), I prefer to handle any killing myself; not hire it out to the DB.

I had a couple of Dragonborn that would possibly take that route, but for those, the relics or quests in question did not offer adequate compensation (iie; the Ebony Mail would not help due to Light Armor prof).

But to be honest, what I wanted was to sacrifice the captured priest of Big B and sacrifice him for his own Daedric lord, but when released, the nut goes straight to Markath. And I could not find any followers that were worse at that time.

Modifié par Elhanan, 25 mars 2012 - 01:07 .

[Addai]

greengoron89 wrote...
Also, here's something you might be interested in reading:

kotaku.com/5895751/dawnguard-trademark-filed-may-point-to-skyrim-expansion

Filing a trademark for some name doesn't really mean anything IMHO, but I thought I'd post it anyway.

I saw that on Bethsoft forum a while back.  Someone said that Shivering Isles was announced 8 months after Oblivion came out, so maybe July for an announcement?  At ComicCon which is July 12-15?

Then the Xbox players get it a month before the rest of us. 

Modifié par Addai67, 25 mars 2012 - 03:45 .

[Yrkoon]

Elhanan wrote...

But to be honest, what I wanted was to sacrifice the captured priest of Big B and sacrifice him for his own Daedric lord, but when released, the nut goes straight to Markath. And I could not find any followers that were worse at that time.

I can think of one.  And he's a doubly good choice if you happen to have sided with the stormcloaks.  Ahtar.  The Solitude Executioner who kills Roggvir when you first enter Solitude.

[Elhanan]

Yrkoon wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

But to be honest, what I wanted was to sacrifice the captured priest of Big B and sacrifice him for his own Daedric lord, but when released, the nut goes straight to Markath. And I could not find any followers that were worse at that time.

I can think of one.  And he's a doubly good choice if you happen to have sided with the stormcloaks.  Ahtar.  The Solitude Executioner who kills Roggvir when you first enter Solitude.

Thought he was a quest giver; thus maybe tagged Immortal?

But I have only gone with the Stormcloaks once; am an Imperial kinda guy, I guess. Plus Ulfric seems a lot less full of himself on the other side,.

[Joy Divison]

I don't think the wabbajack staff really has many moral strings to it either.

In fact, I didn't realize it was so damn useful until I ran out of magika one time and got desperate.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 25 mars 2012 - 05:01 .

[Addai]

Peryite's quest is also ambiguous. I don't think it's exactly good, but it can be seen that way. And, Spellbreaker... now there's an artifact worth abandoning your moral integrity for.

Wabbajack is also useful for leveling followers, I hear. If you turn them into an animal and then turn them back, it forces them to the PC's level.

[Dutchess]

Can somebody perhaps recommend a good lighting mod? I tried ENB cinematic lighting but it slowed my game down so much it was not even funny. When I search on the nexus the only thing that seems good is Realistic lighting, but I find the nights a bit too dark on the screenshots...