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#151
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Hopefully Orcs won't suffer from "Shrekism" like they did in Oblivion. I am most eager to hear about guilds. Will be great if they increase the number available. Also wondering if werewolves will return and the status of vampires.

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I hope you can still be a vampire. That was tough going, but damn it was fun sneaking around and drinking blood.

Also: 10 races, right? Holy crap that's a lot. By furries I mean I don't want animal people. But it seems likely.

Modifié par slimgrin, 13 janvier 2011 - 01:36 .


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We start as a prisoner again. The Blades are also going to be an ally, and one of their last sanctuaries will be in the game.

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Lycans4ever wrote...

I couldn't expect something better than the info that is posted here. I just wonder if there will be a save import option like the one that will be used in Dragon Age 2 just to have an impact to the world. (although i wish not cause i lost my "normal character" save...)


Unlikely. The devs don't get that personal when it came to world events. It's assumed that events happened, you likely caused it, and the world has changed.

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chunkyman wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I was kinda hoping there wouldn't be furries in this game. <_<


Furries? Like a Kajiit?


I made peace with a lot of Oblivon's faults, but the Khajiit and Argonians in Oblivion suffered from being people in animal skins. In other words, furries and scalies. Not that there's nothing wrong with animal people, but they didn't have that weird sense of "other" like in Morrowind too much. Like the Khajiit greeting, "walk on warm sands." For example, Dar-Ma talked like a teenage girl in her diary, or the way she spoke about mutton on Chorrol. It's so familiar it's uncharacteristic.

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slimgrin wrote...

I hope you can still be a vampire. That was tough going, but damn it was fun sneaking around and drinking blood.

Also: 10 races, right? Holy crap that's a lot. By furries I mean I don't want animal people. But it seems likely.


Uh just a reminder,

1. Imperial
2. Redguard
3. High Elf
4. Wood Elf
5. Night Elf
6. Nord
7. Breton
8. Khajit
9. Orc
10. Argonian

Those were the 10 playable races from Oblivion and Morrowind. I don't think we're getting anything new.

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NvVanity wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I hope you can still be a vampire. That was tough going, but damn it was fun sneaking around and drinking blood.

Also: 10 races, right? Holy crap that's a lot. By furries I mean I don't want animal people. But it seems likely.


Uh just a reminder,

1. Imperial
2. Redguard
3. High Elf
4. Wood Elf
5. Night Elf
6. Nord
7. Breton
8. Khajit
9. Orc
10. Argonian

Those were the 10 playable races from Oblivion and Morrowind. I don't think we're getting anything new.


Heh...been so long since I played, forgot there were that many.

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slimgrin wrote...
I was kinda hoping there wouldn't be furries in this game. <_<

They've been in the past 4 games.
Why would you think that would change?

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monkeycamoran wrote...

Lycans4ever wrote...

I couldn't expect something better than the info that is posted here. I just wonder if there will be a save import option like the one that will be used in Dragon Age 2 just to have an impact to the world. (although i wish not cause i lost my "normal character" save...)


Unlikely. The devs don't get that personal when it came to world events. It's assumed that events happened, you likely caused it, and the world has changed.

Few... oblivion is the last game i would like to play all over again since it's one of the biggest games ever... The only thing i'm very curious about is which races will be in the game... i gues dwarves will be there since there are 10 races, other than that i don't have a clue

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Talking of the video, I was quite amused to see that Bob Ross seems to be their artistic mentor. :D

I hope Skyrim includes background conversations about mudcrabs and news from the other provinces.  It wouldn't be the same without them.  Or passing comments that whatever random tat I'm wearing suits me well.

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Lycans4ever wrote...
Few... oblivion is the last game i would like to play all over again since it's one of the biggest games ever... The only thing i'm very curious about is which races will be in the game... i gues dwarves will be there since there are 10 races, other than that i don't have a clue


NvVanity already listed them. No dwarves...ever.

And it's Dark Elf for no. 5, not Night Elf.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 13 janvier 2011 - 03:04 .


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NvVanity wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I hope you can still be a vampire. That was tough going, but damn it was fun sneaking around and drinking blood.

Also: 10 races, right? Holy crap that's a lot. By furries I mean I don't want animal people. But it seems likely.


Uh just a reminder,

1. Imperial
2. Redguard
3. High Elf
4. Wood Elf
5. Night Elf
6. Nord
7. Breton
8. Khajit
9. Orc
10. Argonian

Those were the 10 playable races from Oblivion and Morrowind. I don't think we're getting anything new.


Everyone knows that Orcs are the only race worth using.:D

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monkeycamoran wrote...

And it's Dark Elf for no. 5, not Night Elf.

Dunmer.  They get tetchy if you call them "dark elf". :P

Wonder if they'll get the same voice actors back again?  I know some people didn't like them, but my only gripe is that there were far too few in Oblivion (though I think it was the technical limitations of there simply not being enough room for fully voiced dialogue; though one could answer "so don't use fully voiced dialogue, then", but I digress).  I particularly liked Linda Kenyon (dunmer woman) and Ralph Cosham (absent-minded Bretons) though all were pretty good.  I did think that Sean Bean made Martin sound almost suicidal, though. :lol:

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vometia wrote...

Wonder if they'll get the same voice actors back again?  I know some people didn't like them, but my only gripe is that there were far too few in Oblivion (though I think it was the technical limitations of there simply not being enough room for fully voiced dialogue; though one could answer "so don't use fully voiced dialogue, then", but I digress).  I particularly liked Linda Kenyon (dunmer woman) and Ralph Cosham (absent-minded Bretons) though all were pretty good.  I did think that Sean Bean made Martin sound almost suicidal, though. :lol:


Well, we have Max Von Sydow. I liked his performance in the teaser.

I just hope that not all Nord and Orc women in Skyrim won't be voiced solely by Wonder Woman again.

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Volus Warlord wrote...
Everyone knows that Orcs are the only race worth using.:D

Hellz yeah!

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I always played Nord or Dark Elf.

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GodWood wrote...

slimgrin wrote...
I was kinda hoping there wouldn't be furries in this game. <_<

They've been in the past 4 games.
Why would you think that would change?


I love Khajit. And my Argonians.

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I know folks both Loved and Hated Oblivion...

I hated it!

I will simply pass on this Game because of the awful experience I had with Oblivion.

Morrowind was Great and I'll simply remember what a good time I had with that.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

GodWood wrote...

slimgrin wrote...
I was kinda hoping there wouldn't be furries in this game. <_<

They've been in the past 4 games.
Why would you think that would change?

I love Khajit. And my Argonians.

I too like the khajit (although I'd prefer it if in Skyrim we played as the Morrowind breed again) but argonians...?
As long as the females continue to have breasts they'll remain my most hated race.

THEY'RE LIZARDS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BOOBS

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I hope that they look more to Morrowind than Oblivion, and I hope they look a bit to Daggerfall as well. Most of all I hope they look at the Fallout-games.

Of all the TES games I have played, Oblivion was by far the most boring. The scaling enemies meant you did not feel your character improve, and the loot you collected from ordinary highwaymen became ridiculous. Furthermore, the limited use of voice actors (five! as I recall) meant than all NPC's was utterly uninteresting and stereotype.

More than looking at the former TES games, I hope Bethesda consider the Fallout games. Suddenly, story and interaction meant something in a Bethesda game. (I know New Vegas is developed by Obsidian, it's still a Bethesda game.) There was hillarious situations, brutality, sexual undertones and all the other things that has always lacked in the TES games.

Besides that, I am certain they will manage to create gameplay that is good. The only time I felt that they had failed in that department was in Oblivion. Morrowind was very good, except that your character ended up being ridiculously overpowered. But, IMO, the answer to that is not scaling enemies, but rather to look further back, to Daggerfall, where it was virtually impossible to level past 26 -27, which meant that the most powerful enemies remained a serious challenge even at the end.

All in all, I am curious. Bethesda has always delievered in freedom, but have sometimes failed in the actual roleplay department, and almost always in creating memorable NPC's. The antithesis of Bioware, so to speak. They should make a game together, THAT would have the possibility to be the ultimate in awesomeness.

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TMZuk wrote...

Furthermore, the limited use of voice actors (five! as I recall) meant than all NPC's was utterly uninteresting and stereotype.

There were 11 regular voice actors that I can identify (admittedly not much of an improvement) not including the various daedric gods, Shivering Isles characters & races and the unique characters, so the total tally was 20 or so.

But both in terms of gameplay and modding I'd have preferred a more text-driven dialogue system: easier to mod and it wouldn't have necessitated the recycling of dialogue amongst so many characters.

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Road to Skyrim: Todd Howard Interview.

Video 1 talks about he entered the video game industry.
Video 2 talks about how Elder Scrolls evolved and how those changes affected Skyrim. He talks about the dwarves.
Video 3 talks about the video game industry currently itself.

Concept art from the video.

http://i.imgur.com/V4bsQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O9kIz.jpg

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Excellent interviews. Very down to earth. It's a shame Bioware doesn't do stuff like this.

Modifié par slimgrin, 14 janvier 2011 - 01:37 .


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monkeycamoran wrote...

Road to Skyrim: Todd Howard Interview.

Video 1 talks about he entered the video game industry.
Video 2 talks about how Elder Scrolls evolved and how those changes affected Skyrim. He talks about the dwarves.
Video 3 talks about the video game industry currently itself.

Concept art from the video.

http://i.imgur.com/V4bsQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O9kIz.jpg


Sweet interview! Todd Howard seems pretty cool. I hope we get an in-depth interview about Skyrim.

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monkeycamoran wrote...

Road to Skyrim: Todd Howard Interview.

Video 1 talks about he entered the video game industry.
Video 2 talks about how Elder Scrolls evolved and how those changes affected Skyrim. He talks about the dwarves.
Video 3 talks about the video game industry currently itself.

Concept art from the video.

http://i.imgur.com/V4bsQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O9kIz.jpg


I'm in shock! :blink: A Game-interview that actually said something?? Other than being one long commercial for the next title?? I must be dreaming! :D

Seriously, that was interesting stuff, and I must sayd that Todd Howard impressed me several times by hitting the head on the nail.

The difference between western rpgs and jrpgs and how overly fantastic stuff makes it impossible to suspend disbelief. How character interaction is the part of crpg's that really has room for improvement and development, rather than visual presentation. How there's no limit to what you can actually include in an rpg, but anytime you exclude something it really detracts from the experience. All these things was things that had me nodding in agreement.

And he referred to Darklands as an inspiration source. :) Darklands was, when it was published, back in -93 I think it was, simply something no-one had seen before. Unfortunately, it was years ahead of it's time and utterly bug-ridden, and before Microprose had gotten rid of all the bugs, (hard work when internet is not readily available) it had unfortunately failed utterly and vanished into obscurity. So, there has never been anything like it made again, either.

Cool stuff! Thanks for the link.

Modifié par TMZuk, 14 janvier 2011 - 01:21 .