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Wow so beating a LEGENDARY Dragon is worth 40G.

That makes me wonder...how hard is it really? Or is just hard to find?
Interesting.

Damn....I just talked to the dad of the Shatter-Shields.
After killing his daughter.

"First my daughters, and now my wife...how much is one man supposed to take?"
Just damn. I mean my Khajiit does not care but ouch....

Also WTF! If you do the bonus objective you can MARRY the girl who gave that job?
:?

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The most dangerous thing about dragons in Skyrim is how easily they can kill NPCs - Ancient Dragons especially can easily slaughter people. It's not uncommon for me to have to reload and start the fight over because a civilian or merchant burns to death or turns into chewing gum.

I wonder just how much more of a threat Legendary Dragons will be in this regard. :unsure:

Also, Muiri is awesome - I knife Nilsine every single time without hesitation and usually put a ring on Muiri's finger when all is said and done. Would be nice if they would fix her blasted dialogue bug, though.

Modifié par greengoron89, 22 juin 2012 - 11:54 .


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What dialouge bug?

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After you complete Muiri's contract, she will always say "Thank you for helping me with my problem" instead of the normal dialogue, even after you marry her.

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greengoron89 wrote...

The most dangerous thing about dragons in Skyrim is how easily they can kill NPCs - Ancient Dragons especially can easily slaughter people. It's not uncommon for me to have to reload and start the fight over because a civilian or merchant burns to death or turns into chewing gum.

I wonder just how much more of a threat Legendary Dragons will be in this regard. :unsure:

Also, Muiri is awesome - I knife Nilsine every single time without hesitation and usually put a ring on Muiri's finger when all is said and done. Would be nice if they would fix her blasted dialogue bug, though.


I couldn't knife Nilsine...the reasoning behind her needing to die is highly questionable

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Most of the contracts you perform have questionable (perhaps even non-existent) reasoning behind them - but you are obligated to perform the assassinations regardless of the whys and wherefores. I treat Nilsine and Amaund Mottiere both as part of that obligation, and so they both get the... silent treatment every time.

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My assassin only goes after people once a Black Sacrament has been taken out on them.
Also he has quite a powerful friend in his pocket once he spares Amaund.

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greengoron89 wrote...

Most of the contracts you perform have questionable (perhaps even non-existent) reasoning behind them - but you are obligated to perform the assassinations regardless of the whys and wherefores. I treat Nilsine and Amaund Mottiere both as part of that obligation, and so they both get the... silent treatment every time.

I don't do Muiri's extra request because it's beneath a DB assassin to give a "twofer" and because she's clearly a nutter.  If she can't afford two sacraments, she can go hire any thug.

Amaund is different, though.  I spared him on the same principle, but you could decide to off him as a witness.  He's got enough clout to make something stick if he decides to throw you under the bus.

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Sadly people who try screwing over the Dragonborn meet very bad ends.

I mean if he does try anything, then questions get asked.
How can he know about the assassin in the first place.

Still if he is even a tiny bit smart he will keep the Dragonborn on hand to do some new jobs for them.

Also I just went through Blackreach again.
Damn I love going through their, its like The Mines of Moria meets the Underdark.

But with more pasty elves to kill!

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I kill Amaund Motierre out of respect to Titus Mede tbh - the Emperor turned out to be nothing like I expected and left me speechless, and he faced his death like a boss. It would be... dishonorable not to respect his dying wish IMHO.

And I like crazy girls. >:D

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Bah. Why should Titus Mede get a freebee from the DB? He's got a Book on his desk that tells him everything he needs to know about the Dark Brotherhood, yet he thinks himself too high to follow the *basic* steps needed to receive their assistance.  This is a sign of lack of respect.   Even his so-called "courage" isn't.     He doesn't  act the way he does out of  "bravery in the face of death", He does it out of Vanity.  The little  speech he gives you  illustrates his true mindset:  He wants to  "smile for the camera" as he goes down in history.  He sees you  as an agent of his  privilaged-by-birth destiny.

I usually don't even waste my time easing his mind about "justice" before I kill him.  My only regret is that the game doesn't allow you to tell him that he's not special, and  that you'll be using the same weapon to kill him that you used to kill some loser bard in a previous contract.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 23 juin 2012 - 03:11 .


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That is why my Khajiit is just going to beat him to death.

Nothing says "pathetic death" like getting scratched to death.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Bah. Why should Titus Mede get a freebee from the DB? He's got a Book on his desk that tells him everything he needs to know about the Dark Brotherhood, yet he thinks himself too high to follow the *basic* steps needed to receive their assistance.  This is a sign of lack of respect.   Even his so-called "courage" isn't.     He doesn't  act the way he does out of  "bravery in the face of death", He does it out of Vanity.  The little  speech he gives you  illustrates his true mindset:  He wants to  "smile for the camera" as he goes down in history.  He sees you  as an agent of his  privilaged-by-birth destiny.

I usually don't even waste my time easing his mind about "justice" before I kill him.  My only regret is that the game doesn't allow you to tell him that he's not special, and  that you'll be using the same weapon to kill him that you used to kill some loser bard in a previous contract.


Err, wow, I can't say I got anything even close to that sort of impression from him - he came off as a tired, world-weary old man who made his peace with death (and almost seems to embrace it) long before you ever arrived to do the deed to me, and he accepts his fate all the same whether you hear him out or not.

Modifié par greengoron89, 23 juin 2012 - 03:27 .


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Before I go out, I agree with Greengoron. It is how he seems to me as well. But what do I know.

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Mede can make the request, but it's in poor form for a DB assassin to say yes. This isn't Wal Mart. You don't get a package discount, not even if you're the victim.

It's all what's-her-name's fault for making the DB out to be cheap bandits. Cicero's right about that. She was never DB material.

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I truly doubt the Night Mother and Sithis care about either Nilsine or Motierre - in fact, all death pleases the Dread Father. Consider them... bonus offerings to the Void.

Modifié par greengoron89, 23 juin 2012 - 04:37 .


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I'd honor Mede's request if he didn't sign that despicable treaty w/ the elves.

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I don't like that he signed the White-Gold Concordat either, but I understand why he did it - he risked a lot during the Battle of the Red Ring and it paid off, but the cost in lives was tremendous. He signed the Concordat with the intention of sparing the Empire and its denizens further bloodshed. Whether it was the right thing to do or not is highly debatable, but I can respect his reasoning at least to some extent.

I personally view it as a cowardly and dangerous move that could spell doom for the Empire down the road if it's not repealed in time. He may have even known this himself, but how it's dealt with is out of his hands - I think he knew his demise was inevitable, and whoever succeeds him would be the one to handle it.

Modifié par greengoron89, 23 juin 2012 - 05:03 .


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greengoron89 wrote...


Err, wow, I can't say I got anything even close to that sort of impression from him - he came off as a tired, world-weary old man who made his peace with death (and almost seems to embrace it) long before you ever arrived to do the deed to me, and he accepts his fate all the same whether you hear him out or not.

Since we have no contact with him prior to this particular meeting, its impossible to know whether he's been "embracing his death" before  witnessing a Dark  Brotherhood assassin plow through his heavy guard, then break into his locked room and catch him completely defenseless.    For all we know, such plots  for his death are a daily occurance and  have never before  make it past his lowest level guards.

But of course he  *now* Embraces his own death as it stares him in the face.   Because he sees it as a badge of office.  Again, pay attention to his speech.  He talks about  past Leaders having inevidable meetings of destiny with Assassins.  He talks about these historical events reverantly, as if history itself won't see him as "great"  unless he meets the same fate as those who came before him.

That's Vanity, not courage.

I'd have had much more respect for him had he unsheathed that fancy weapon the lore says he should have, then challenged the Dark Brotherhood assassin to a one-on-one  melee duel, Nord Style..

Modifié par Yrkoon, 23 juin 2012 - 07:52 .


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http://cloud-2.steam...7CE967998B4EBA/
"Let the world tremble for the shadow of death has come...."

My Khajiit is probably the single most badass character I ever made.

I did not kill that chap for the Emperor, if he had done a BS then maybe.
But its just bad for buisness killing people who do the BS for you.
Which would just make your word BS. heh.

Also I just got 100% Achievement completion.
IR happy, Good thing that Dawnguard is coming out. 

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 23 juin 2012 - 08:27 .


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Also I soul trapped the Emprah...heh.

I think I will do that as a hobby.
Sadly Mercer Frey bit it a LONG time ago.

I can still do it to Ancano, Ulfric, and a few more people though.
Put them on a shelf as the real trophies.

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If someone does find a dual wield mod, let me know. After reading some lore junk, I'm inspired to make a female Nord light berserker and dual axes would be great for that.


This is a mod I personally use for dual wielding. It lets you configure your f1 to f10 buttons to be used as hotkeys.
In game you need to press K to start the quick bind process. You need to have the weapon equipped on the hand you wish to bind it to, while doing this iirc. It's not perfect, but it at least lets you to toggle between spells and weapons in your left hand quite easily.

Might not remember 100% how the mod works, so reading the readme is probably advisable.
Also I made this post thinking that it was some dual wield fixes you wanted, dont really know any mods that enhance the combat while dual wielding, except maybe Deadly Combat so eh, good luck:whistle:.

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I did all the Dark Brotherhood stuff, but I hate the Night Mother. Wish there was a way to get rid of her.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Wow so beating a LEGENDARY Dragon is worth 40G.

That makes me wonder...how hard is it really? Or is just hard to find?
Interesting.


Pretty sure they'll show up like all dragons do. I'd hope to run into one in the wild, maybe use Dragonrend on it, then fill it full of crossbow bolts.

If that'll work, at least. If not, I'll find a way to neutralize it. Still have Odahviing, though he takes fricken forever to do anything in a dragon vs. dragon fight.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Since we have no contact with him prior to this particular meeting, its impossible to know whether he's been "embracing his death" before  witnessing a Dark  Brotherhood assassin plow through his heavy guard, then break into his locked room and catch him completely defenseless.    For all we know, such plots  for his death are a daily occurance and  have never before  make it past his lowest level guards.

But of course he  *now* Embraces his own death as it stares him in the face.   Because he sees it as a badge of office.  Again, pay attention to his speech.  He talks about  past Leaders having inevidable meetings of destiny with Assassins.  He talks about these historical events reverantly, as if history itself won't see him as "great"  unless he meets the same fate as those who came before him.

That's Vanity, not courage.

I'd have had much more respect for him had he unsheathed that fancy weapon the lore says he should have, then challenged the Dark Brotherhood assassin to a one-on-one  melee duel, Nord Style..


He was never gonna be seen as "great" - the White-Gold Concordat destroyed his reputation and made him countless enemies, and he knew it. If anything, his death would be seen as a triumph, both by the Aldmeri Dominion and all of his detractors in Hammerfell, Skyrim, and within the Empire itself - and he'll likely be remembered as a coward more than anything else.