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[Yrkoon]

The Guilds are for people who roleplay.  You want Skyrim to hold your hand and force some set of rules on you and the world??   If you're a warhammer-wielding Orc Barbarian, you shouldn't be seeking join the mage guild in the first place.

it's no different than being a pious paladin type then compaining because you chose to join the Dark Brotherhood and they're now asking you to assassinate people.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 28 juin 2012 - 12:39 .

[ShepnTali]

Jestina wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
Its rather odd being named Arch-Mage without any skills in magic.
Besides the Thu'um.

The guild system is really screwed up. My barbarian in full plate was head thief and her only skill was swinging a two handed sword. There should have been requirements for joining guilds...because as it is now, they are pretty much pointless.

Depending on my character, I'll just avoid the guilds that don't make sense. My archer assassin won't do the mage guild, but the other three make sense. My meathead, war hammer swinging barbarian will only do the Companions guild.

[Giggles_Manically]

Yrkoon wrote...

The Guilds are for people who roleplay.  You want Skyrim to hold your hand and force some set of rules on you and the world??   If you're a warhammer-wielding Orc Barbarian, you shouldn't be seeking join the mage guild in the first place.

it's no different than being a pious paladin type then compaining because you chose to join the Dark Brotherhood and they're now asking you to assassinate people.

Still I miss the requirement in Morrowind to actually HAVE skills in a the field that the guild needs before becoming higher ranked.

[Alpha-Centuri]

Agreed. Say a skill level of 40 in a magical spell to join the College or 500 gold equivalent in theft to join thieves guild, etc. Atleast that would make sense when Brynjolff does his "you haven't earned a bit of gold honestly" speech.

Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 28 juin 2012 - 12:56 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Brynjolff obviously does not know the old PC code:
"If you attack me, I get to kill you and take all your things"

All is far in combat and looting.
Except when someone steals your rare drop.

[LPPrince]

Beat Skyrim(Dawnguard side).

Turns out that even if you side with the Dawnguard, you can become a Vampire Lord. You have three times you can do it, near the beginning of the DLC, the middle, and after its all over you can do it whenever is most convenient for you.

This makes me happy as I'll never have to play the Vampire faction side.

All I gotta do to ensure I get all chievos is start morphing into Werewolf form and getting those perks. After that turn into a Vampire Lord and get those perks.

I might just make one non-canon save for both and go slaughter everyone so I can do it super quick.

Then reload to the canon save where I didn't transform into anything. Yaaaay.

As of right now though, I'm gonna do that one side quest you get by acquiring that one book that's located in several places. Just started so I have no idea what happens in it.

Anyway, Dawnguard was a success. Good times. Loved it. Also, in my head canon Serana and The Dovahkiin had a relationship on the road as they traveled.

Ysolda will never know of it. You know, cause if you get every achievement on one character, you KNOW your character is a douche bag.

[Giggles_Manically]

My Khajiit is going to marry Ysolda.

Poor girl.
First she marries a very powerful person.
Then she gets Hulda's bar when she gets "food poisoning"
Then she will get introduced to the Khajiit caravans who are in my Khajiit's pockets due to their ties with the thieves guild.

All while providing the perfect cover for him.
I mean who would believe that someone married to such a nice girl does such horrible things?
Heh

[Mr.House]

LPPrince wrote...

Beat Skyrim(Dawnguard side).

Turns out that even if you side with the Dawnguard, you can become a Vampire Lord. You have three times you can do it, near the beginning of the DLC, the middle, and after its all over you can do it whenever is most convenient for you.

This makes me happy as I'll never have to play the Vampire faction side.

All I gotta do to ensure I get all chievos is start morphing into Werewolf form and getting those perks. After that turn into a Vampire Lord and get those perks.

I might just make one non-canon save for both and go slaughter everyone so I can do it super quick.

Then reload to the canon save where I didn't transform into anything. Yaaaay.

As of right now though, I'm gonna do that one side quest you get by acquiring that one book that's located in several places. Just started so I have no idea what happens in it.

Anyway, Dawnguard was a success. Good times. Loved it. Also, in my head canon Serana and The Dovahkiin had a relationship on the road as they traveled.

Ysolda will never know of it. You know, cause if you get every achievement on one character, you KNOW your character is a douche bag.

Question, does Serana play a big role on the Dawnguard side or just the Vampire side? Simple question please If it's to spoily pm me it.

[Jestina]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...
Agreed. Say a skill level of 40 in a magical spell to join the College or 500 gold equivalent in theft to join thieves guild, etc. Atleast that would make sense when Brynjolff does his "you haven't earned a bit of gold honestly" speech.

Something would be better than nothing. And too, it's way to easy in Skyrim to become head of a guild. The college was just ridiculous...like they give you a test and then fill out the answers for you(cast blah blah...oh and i'll even give you the spell).

[Yrkoon]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

The Guilds are for people who roleplay.  You want Skyrim to hold your hand and force some set of rules on you and the world??   If you're a warhammer-wielding Orc Barbarian, you shouldn't be seeking join the mage guild in the first place.

it's no different than being a pious paladin type then compaining because you chose to join the Dark Brotherhood and they're now asking you to assassinate people.

Still I miss the requirement in Morrowind to actually HAVE skills in a the field that the guild needs before becoming higher ranked.

It's justified in Morrowind because Morrowind has a  strict class system.  Skyrim doesn't.  Every Character you make in skyrim already starts out at level 1 with magic ability, for example. 

Additionally, the whole concept of class abilities for advancement is already  thrown out of whack due to Shouts.   Which, alone,  make your character worthy of leading any guild.

 You say you were allowed to become the archmage of the college even though you've got no magic ability?    I'd disagree.   You had plenty of Magic ability.  More than everyone at the college in fact.  I'd say even the most powerful mage in the circle cannot match your Fus Ro Dah.  I know of no Master Conjuror who can Summon a Dragon. etc.  etc.  And that goes for all the guilds.  No Theif can out "rogue" the Dovakiin when the latter has Throw Voice, Become Ethereal and Disarm.  No warrior can out "warrior" a Dovakiin who's got Elemental Fury, Fus Ro Dah, and Marked for Death.  etc.

[Yrkoon]

Jestina wrote...

Something would be better than nothing. And too, it's way to easy in Skyrim to become head of a guild. The college was just ridiculous...like they give you a test and then fill out the answers for you(cast blah blah...oh and i'll even give you the spell).

Again, you're the *dovakiin*, they shouldn't just make you their leader, they should build a shrine in your name then perform ritual worship ceremonies the moment you agree to become a member.   Don't forget, while they're busy summoning Atronochs,  You're summoning  Dragons and ancient nord heros,   While they're busy tossing ice spikes at wolves,   you're  shouting Bears off cliffs,   And while they're busy  raising zombies,  you're turning Giants into  blocks of ice.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 28 juin 2012 - 03:20 .

[Addai]

Jestina wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
Its rather odd being named Arch-Mage without any skills in magic.
Besides the Thu'um.

The guild system is really screwed up. My barbarian in full plate was head thief and her only skill was swinging a two handed sword. There should have been requirements for joining guilds...because as it is now, they are pretty much pointless.

Why did you do that?

[adneate]

Yeah I just don't join guilds that don't make sense for my character, I can't really complain at Bethesda because I chose to game the system. My Breton Spellsword only joins the Companions and the College of Winterhold, since she's a Mage / Warrior. Though I imagine she laughs at some of the stupid Nords in the Companions who want to charge all their problems head on. An Illusion spell and then just cutting their head off as they smile at you like a moron is much more efficient.

[Giggles_Manically]

@Yrkoon: Very valid points really.
Also I can imagine that the Mages would count the Thu'um as a form of magic.
Or the Companions respect it for being "An ancient nord art"

Also...damn Ysolda you scare me.
I poison of Hulda...and five seconds later..she takes her job

Ah well.
Going to join the imperial legion soon.
Then soul trap Ulfic and leave his soul next to old Mede.

Its fun to be evil

[Holding cats on rollercoasters]

Total content, methodically exploring Oblivion and the new Dawnguard fortress, side missions and quests, no fast travel....time estimate?

[Jestina]

Addai67 wrote...
Why did you do that?

Because of another stupid thing in the game...stolen items. Like some clueless shopkeeper in another town is going to know that the item is stolen. And you get a free t-shirt...uniform for joining a guild, which I can decorate a mannequin with.

[happy_daiz]

Mr.House wrote...
Question, does Serana play a big role on the Dawnguard side or just the Vampire side? Simple question please If it's to spoily pm me it.

So far, she does in my playthrough, on the Dawnguard side. Although to be honest, I've also been taking her on other non-DG quests, because she's such an arse-kicker. And she's nice to look at.


It's funny - I don't think I've ever seen another follower just go and sit down, and start eating when they get bored with waiting for you. Or start enchanting. Or sharpen her blade.

Mr.House wrote...
For people who have played Dawnguard, how is the Soul Cairn plane? It's one of my massive interest in the dlc.

It's pretty dang amazing. It's good sized, has some new enemies, and before I get carried away, I'll just also say that it's gorgeous to look at. I mentioned it in here yesterday, and compared it to the awe factor of Blackreach.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 28 juin 2012 - 01:43 .

[happy_daiz]

^ 'Done and done'.

I love what she says when you take her to Nordic ruins (I'll save that line for you guys to find out for yourself). And she seems to have a comment about each major city.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 28 juin 2012 - 01:55 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Shame that most of my characters are married right now.
Then again my Khajiit is not....hmmm.

Stupid 32 days left to wait.

[Yrkoon]

Wow, I wake up this morning and the first thing I see is a horrible argument.  lol

Jestina wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
Why did you do that?

Because of another stupid thing in the game...stolen items. Like some clueless shopkeeper in another town is going to know that the item is stolen.

Not following.  If you're stealing stuff  and are seeking the services of  Fences  (ie. the black market cartels), then you are, by definition, a thief.  Therefore, joining a thieves guild fits your character role perfectly.  And becoming the leader of the thieves guild is *hard* work.  When you reach that level, you'll have totally  deserved the title, as the stuff you have to do to get it  includes:  1) Breaking and entering  2) stealing, 3)bribing, 4)framing; 5) blackmailing; 6) sabotaging a business;  7) document retrieval;  8) swearing your soul to Nocternal; and  9) defeating the current Guildmaster in combat..  Other than that, there's not much more to say.   It does not break tradition for a Thief to be a fully armored brute.  Or even a mage.  Intimidation   (brute strength)  and deception (magic), are  completely valid tools of the trade for a career rogue.
 

And you get a free t-shirt...uniform for joining a guild, which I can decorate a mannequin with.

Here you are roleplaying a  Wardrobe conneseur.  A wardrobe conneseur is not averse to infiltrating  the guilds for the sole purpose of getting their uniforms.  It's what they do.  Morals/alignment/profession take a back seat.  To these people, Uniform retrieval  is the only mission.  Traditionally, people like that are a form of Bard.   But really, I just call them  "set collectors".   (I did the same thing in my Daedric artifact collector run)   I would not call them guild leaders,though, as the  two guilds that offer unique uniforms both offer them well before one becomes their  leader.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 28 juin 2012 - 03:13 .

[Giggles_Manically]

My main is a pretty kick ass warrior, but he still is a very capable thief as well.
Unless it comes to pickpocketing.
Then he just sucks.

[Giggles_Manically]

Okay...yes my main uses Dragonsbane.
If one more person makes a crack about me using a katana I am going to seriously strangle someone.

[Yrkoon]

Katanas are awesome. Their only downfall is that they often times do not benefit from the right weapon perks. There's mods that fix that tho.

My current character managed to Get Bolar's Oathblade at level 8.  It's the "Press "A" to win button" for low level characters.  It's  a set drop in a dungeon that does not contain  a single tough enemy, except for maybe    *one* spriggan at the very end, which can be avoided if you're good.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 28 juin 2012 - 02:46 .