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See now I cant get back into the Soul Cairn....I really want to but I went to see Falion afterward (trying not to spoil anything) so now when i try to go back in I just sizzle...

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I installed Dawnguard about an hour and a half ago, I basically just started the quest and by started the quest I mean the quest thrust itself upon me. I got distracted by vanilla-ish Skyrim on my way there, then the game crashed, I think it's my first crash in well over 100 hours of play.

**I suppose possible minor spoilers for people who want a total surprise follow**

Some things that I'm noticing for the first time and wondering if they are Dawnguard add-on's or if I've just never seen them before: thunder storms, I've seriously never seen those before and neither has my brother, is it new? Hearing woodpeckers in forest areas and being accosted by a red eyed Khajit attempting to sell me skooma and moon sugar, he took a remarkable amount of damage, the red eyes make me think Dawnguard but I did encounter him during the day. If those things are DG related then those are some great touches, if not then its impressive that I'm finding new things still, no matter how small they are.

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Thunderstorms I can confirm are in the vanilla game, and as far as I know are seasonal (yes, the months of the year matter in this game)

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^ You'll find lots of cool details that weren't there before. It's almost like Bethesda took the opportunity to embellish some things, but didn't feel the need to bring attention to them. Some of them are simple dialogue changes or additions.

If you've played through Skyrim a couple of times, you'll likely notice these changes. Of course, it's also possible that I was much more aware while playing Dawnguard than I normally would be. Image IPB

My favorite change so far is how vampires look. Especially if you sneak up on a vampire in the dark, and that's all you can see is their eyes. Trippy.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 05 juillet 2012 - 08:53 .


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Wow, I just discovered a downright evil poison recipe - Dawnguard introduces a few new alchemy ingredients, one of which is called the Poison Bloom - if you combine it with a Deathbell and a River Betty, you will concoct an unholy poison that damages the hell out of health and slows enemies down to a crawl.

Definitely gonna pick up as much Poison Bloom as I can find now.

Modifié par greengoron89, 05 juillet 2012 - 09:01 .


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Those are tricky - you've basically got to run up to it before it releases its toxic fumes into the air. When there's only one, it's easy. In some places, they are clustered. Thanks for the tip, though. I think I lugged back around 15 of those.

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I have several hundred of hours of gameplay on the PC, and am still seeing new encounters, events, etc., so DG may not be the reason.

Just the other day I met a farmer near Whiterun taking a painted cow to the Giants as a tribute for not attacking the local farms; never saw this before. And while walking to Riverwood from Helgen after Alduin's assault, we were attacked by wolves in the usual location, and a moment later snipers opened on us from across the river; never saw them, but my guide appeared to drop one and the other fled.

And then I nearly fell out of my chair when the encounter music started to play, and I turned to see a fox going for my throat! Stupid Spriggans! Sure; have seen them before, but I had stopped paying much attention to the more docile wildlife.

Modifié par Elhanan, 05 juillet 2012 - 09:04 .


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^That cow is all over my playthroughs. I often meet that farmer very early on.

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^ I've seen the farmer with the cow out near Markarth, I wanted to follow him but got distracted by a dragon and meeting Meeko for the first time. Does anyone know where he goes? I found a giants cave with a cow in it and some painted stones.

I hate when guards say something and mark a location on your map, half the time I don't quite cach what they say because I stopped listening to them ages ago and it's almost impossible to tell what they have marked on your map. One told me about some undead recently, I've no clue where or what he was on about.

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I have a question about the crossbow for all you Dawnguard players:

I am very interested in doing a new run through the game with a bow-focused characters. Do crossbows work with these perks and is there a steady (and infinite) supply of bolts? Oh and do you actually get new perks with Dawnguard or just the same old?

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Don't invest with Angeline Aromatics! She took 20k of my gold then reset her available gold to 500 the next day! Hilarious.

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termokanden wrote...

I have a question about the crossbow for all you Dawnguard players:

I am very interested in doing a new run through the game with a bow-focused characters. Do crossbows work with these perks and is there a steady (and infinite) supply of bolts? Oh and do you actually get new perks with Dawnguard or just the same old?



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Yep, crossbows benefit from the archery tree. Just the same old perks, but crossbows do have a very different feel to them compared to regular bows.

This probably goes without saying, but vampires are not very fond of crossbows so if you want more than just the basic starter set you'll need to side with the Dawnguard. There are plenty of bolts for the taking around the fort, Dwarven constructs will drop them, you can make your own if you've got steel or dwarven smithing perks, or you can buy them from the merchants you recruit. Eventually, you'll be given a series of side quests to find upgrades for them. The enhanced bolts are harder to come by though, unfortunately. The merchant who sells them doesn't have a very large stock and they require alchemical salts if you want to make them yourself.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Thunderstorms I can confirm are in the vanilla game, and as far as I know are seasonal (yes, the months of the year matter in this game)

Yep, and Immersive Thunder mod makes them sound really cool.

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Wow, the Forgotten Vale is... wow, just... wow. Bethesda seems to have a knack for creating large, absolutely awe-inspiring areas like this, the Soul Cairn, and Blackreach. The Vale is the most beautiful area by far, however.

Also, just a little tidbit of info - there are some pretty earth-shattering revelations regarding TES lore and history in this expansion. I won't spoil anything, but I think you'll be shocked when you meet one NPC in particular, especially if you're fairly well-versed in TES lore.

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HoonDing wrote...

Funny how quickly the Blades went all gung-ho "We wants to them kill dragons!!!" right after they showed up again after thousands of years.

Such terribly written characters. Being forced to deal with those morons is insulting.

I thought at first the change was contrived, but the story does make sense.  The Blades started protecting the dragonborn, Tiber became the greatest dragonborn, and all the emperors that succeeded him were d.b., so it does fit.  Delphine and Esbern being extremists is what makes them annoying.  "Don't you see the peril!  We must do something!  Oh, a dragon is helping you?  B'bye."

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Actually, Arngeir warns you beforehand of the true nature of the Blades when you go and speak to him about Dragonrend - and books on the Akaviri Dragonguard (the predecessors to the Blades) tell of a similar, almost genocidal fervor against dragons.

Personally, I think the Blades are an archaic organization who have long outlived their usefulness, and should remain in the dustbin of history where they belong. I know I won't miss them.

Modifié par greengoron89, 06 juillet 2012 - 12:52 .


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The problem is that the Greybeards and Paarthurnax are nothing but helpful, they teach you, and treat you like the DRAGONBORN.

The Blades treat you like a lackey, send you running around without a thank you, and dont really teach you anything.

I mean Arngeir is a really cool old guy and Paarthurnax is also cool.
I mean no matter how often I talk to Paarthurnax I always enjoy it.

Zin krif horvut se suleyk- Honor is fighting the lure of power.

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That's also something Arngeir warned the Dragonborn about - that the Blades claim to serve the Dragonborn, when in reality they only want to use him/her to forward their genocidal agenda.

There is no reason to listen to anything the tavern wench and the old fogey have to tell you, anyway - they want you to just take everything they say at their word and without question, while the Greybeards offer you training and guidance in the Way, and let you choose your own path after that. Considering that, I know who's better earned my trust.

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Cauis Cossades, and the guys in Oblivion are rolling in their graves seeing what the Blades have become.

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wickedgoodreed wrote...


Yep, crossbows benefit from the archery tree. Just the same old perks, but crossbows do have a very different feel to them compared to regular bows.

This probably goes without saying, but vampires are not very fond of crossbows so if you want more than just the basic starter set you'll need to side with the Dawnguard. There are plenty of bolts for the taking around the fort, Dwarven constructs will drop them, you can make your own if you've got steel or dwarven smithing perks, or you can buy them from the merchants you recruit. Eventually, you'll be given a series of side quests to find upgrades for them. The enhanced bolts are harder to come by though, unfortunately. The merchant who sells them doesn't have a very large stock and they require alchemical salts if you want to make them yourself.


Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to hear. Been wanting to start up an archer character forever but never got around to it. Will be the perfect preparation for the DLC.

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@termokanden Sure thing, archer is definitely a great way to go for the DLC.

greengoron89 wrote...
Wow, the Forgotten Vale is... wow, just... wow. Bethesda seems to have a knack for creating large, absolutely awe-inspiring areas like this, the Soul Cairn, and Blackreach. The Vale is the most beautiful area by far, however..


Agreed. The Forgotten Vale is simply breathtaking. It's a shoo-in for my favorite location.

It also happens to contain one of the best bits of Serana commentary in the game. I've learned my lesson about chasing waterfalls.

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So, um... did anyone notice that the Falmer torture area in Avanchanzel has leather racks and a scroll of Heal Wounds? Maybe I watch too many horror movies but I think they were using prisoners as leather farms.  :pinched:

Modifié par Addai67, 06 juillet 2012 - 05:06 .


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Ugh, so gross.

I recall being completely disgusted the first time I went into one of those Falmer tent things and saw that it was lined with human skin. Then I thought about it some more and it dawned on me that my Nord was decked out in a full set of leather armor. Then I started wondering if that cognitive dissonance was intentional on the part of the designers. At that point, I then decided I'd rather just not think about it.

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I was reading on on the Skyrim wiki that you can get a quest called "the gift" which allows you turn your spouse in to a vampires. Does anyone know how to get it?

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Bat32391 wrote...
I was reading on on the Skyrim wiki that you can get a quest called "the gift" which allows you turn your spouse in to a vampires. Does anyone know how to get it?

Read.