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[Arch1eviathan]

That is why the thieves guild quest line is my absolute favorite!

[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

The thieves guild quest was way better than the one in Oblivion in my opinion.
One time I was walking the roads in Skyrim and a thief ran up to me demanding that I hand over my gold. It gave me 4 options; Persuade, Intimidate, hand over the gold, or say, "I can see that you hold no respect for a Nightingale" lol.
The thief was like, "A nightingale? Oh, I had no idea. I'll be on my way."
xD

Modifié par Garrus calibrations, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:33 .

[Keylime73]

So I haven't played Skyrim since I finished it months ago.

Has there been any word on any expansion that will flesh-out the main plot; i.e., does your choice take the the throne; what happens after? That was strongly hinted at, but the game didn't deliver it.

I'm not really interested in romantic vampires.

[Druss99]

greengoron89 wrote...

termokanden wrote...

Although I am looking forward to trying Dawnguard, I am not thrilled about the random attacks I am hearing about. Sounds like it happens a lot. Like the legion assassins in New Vegas that are just tedius after the first few times, but they keep showing up and pestering you anyway.

I don't think they're as bad as people make them out to be - even at level 8, I managed to take down a Master Vampire and two thralls in Whiterun (with a little help from some NPCs) fairly easily. I have had to reload a few times in case an NPC did die, but as long as you draw the vampire's attention away from them you should be alright. The thralls are easy and the NPCs actually manage to kill them on their own.

You'll worry more about vampires coming after you specifically once you join the Dawnguard (or Dawnguard coming after you if you join the vampires). Neither faction appreciates you joining the other, and will frequently send people out to assassinate you on the roads.

Just remember that vampire attacks on towns will always be near the town entrance - keep a close eye on the front gates of town at night and you should be fine (also beware a lone Master Vampire who will attack you specifically from time to time).

Have you been getting the nightly attacks no matter where you are? Like coming out of a Dwemer ruin in the middle of nowhere, oh look more vamps charging at me. It's actually quite comical, they seem to be in a perpetual state of charging at me. Agreed though, it's not as bad as people make out for me either. I just find it hilarious that no matter where I go there's vampires charging to their doom at me.

[LPPrince]

Dawnguard has vampires, but there's nothing romanticized about them.

As far as an expansion that fleshes out the main plot, no.

And I'd rather they not do that personally, as the main plot wasn't Skyrim's strongest attribute.

It seemed the side stuff was done much better, so I'd rather have more side stuff to do. A LOT more side stuff.

[termokanden]

It's the "frequently" part that worries me and not at all the difficulty. It just sounds really annoying. I feel exactly the same way with the legion assassins in New Vegas. I can handle them, but I just wish they would give up at some point before it gets ridiculous.

I also very much hate attacks on cities because non-essential NPCs are gone for good. I don't want random events that "shrink" the game world.

Modifié par termokanden, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:30 .

[LPPrince]

I agree with you on the frequency of it. After the first few times I was like, "Oh come ON."

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does it might get on your nerves.

[RedArmyShogun]

Ehh some people have had bad trouble with the vamp attacks. I mean mines not so bad, and I've heard of no one dying from them alot, but whole towns (namely the none loading ones like Dragons Bridge) have been wiped out as a player is just passing by and as soon as they wander on down the road.

I'm hoping in a patch they'll add a cut off command for when Dawnguard is finished.

[termokanden]

See that's what I don't want: small towns being massacred due to some stupid vampire attack.

I really hope they will fix this or I foresee a lot of loading because of random events in my future.

[Druss99]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

You know sometimes I think the problem is that Bethesda cant just create "Villager" or "Farmer" NPCs to fill the world.

So they cant just have dragon attacks killing people, or game breaking stuff ensues.
Personally I did like how the Witchers just had stock people with stock names so the game world felt larger, and not like some model village in a museum.


Dont get me wrong I love Skyrim a lot, but often its kind of weird walking into a ``Capitol" city and it has like 30 people in it, and 10 houses.

Agreed, they created an amazing world that you can really lose yourself in, it's just a shame that they have these small issues that break your immersion like that. I think they nailed villages like Riverwood, but as you say cities need alot more life.

The issue with dragons for me is that they really don't feel like a menace at all, they are more like a caged animal that you will go and take care of at some point. Todd did a great job of making them sound awesome in previews, but they really haven't lived up to it.

For every issue like the dragons and cities being a bit barren there's all the brilliant touches like hunters hunting, The Companions clearing out dangerous animals on the roads, Falmer using people to make leather. All those touches of flavour they got right for the most part outshine the ones they haven't mastered yet.

[termokanden]

Oh definitely. Skyrims many qualities easily outweigh the negatives.

Modifié par termokanden, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:43 .

[termokanden]

greengoron89 wrote...

So don't think these guys are like something out of an Anne Rice or what's-her-face-who-wrote-Twilight novel - these guys are hardcore.

Blasphemer! Anne Rice did not write the Twilight novels.

[Druss99]

I've yet to see a single NPC other than a dog and a horse die from a vampire attack. I've been to Whiterun alot and only seen the one attack there which was handled fairly quickly, I saw one in Riften which had the same results. I witnessed a possible one on a mining town who's name I forget but that may have just been vampires charging at me. The only other attack was from a mysterious traveller in Shor's Stone but again he only attacked me.

They can get slightly annoying with their constant charging at you from out of nowhere, but its no worse than other enemies and I think adds a different flavour to travelling at night. Yes, there was vampires before but they were nothing really and quite rare. Now you're constantly on guard for vampire attacks when walking the roads at night. A Volkihar at the wrong time could ruin your night completely.

[termokanden]

I'm wondering if vampire attacks are a part of the game since the 1.6 patch even without Dawnguard. I am playing on the PC and I have had some vampire attacks. Last night my relatively low-level character ran into an Ancient Vampire and had to resort to very cheesy tactics to survive.

[termokanden]

You implied they were similar. They are not. I'm not saying you have to love Anne Rice or anything, but she doesn't deserve to have her name in the same sentence as Twilight. Damn, I just did it myself! Oh you know what I mean

[RedArmyShogun]

See I have not once been attacked o nthe road or elsewhere. Dawnguard like the game in general seems to differ from person to person.

[Druss99]

@ Bear: Do you fast travel alot? I get them almost every night as I walk about 90% of the time. The one place I seem garanteed to get them is near the entrance to Dayspring Canyon at night. Everytime I leave Fort Dawnguard at night and head out that way I'll run into them by the bridge, charging me.

[Olaf_de_IJsbeer]

Daedric gauntlets + fists + giant = dead giant.

I've been meaning to do that for a while, so I did it.

[termokanden]

greengoron89 wrote...

LOL. Whether you wanna acknowledge it or not, they both feature the same "sexy and seductive" vampire archetype - that was my sole point.

My point is simply that there is a massive quality difference, and Anne Rice vampires aren't all annoying teenagers.

Anyway, World of Darkness certainly has its share of sadistic, inhuman vampires. For example there are the Tzimisce. I loved the pen and paper RPG with all the different clans. It's much more interesting than just 100% silly teeneage vampires or 100% pure evil BLAAARGH vampires.