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[KenKenpachi]

Still don't see how they'll do that, but if they do, yay. In anycase, hell why make mods yet? I mean **** so much game time on defualt, short of Skin mods or the like I doubt I'ld play any of the gameplay ones.

[Druss99]

naughty99 wrote...
15. Complete one handed and two handed perks list confirmed

Do you have a link to this? I seem to have missed it but I'd be quite interested in seeing the list.

Not sure if this preview has been posted:

http://kotaku.com/58...rim-its-amazing

Modifié par Druss99, 09 août 2011 - 01:55 .

[sympathy4saren]

That's a lot of confirmed new features. I'm really glad the rebels are a joinable faction. But will they have faction quests, I wonder? Independent from the main quest. That'd be neat.

As a deep dungeon diver who explores every nook of every dungeon, radiant story is going to be sweet.

I noticed the looting kept the sound effects of opening and getting things....a small detail but critical imo.

[Bryy_Miller]

I am seriously jonesing for the public release of that demo, guys.

JONESING.

[chunkyman]

sympathy4saren wrote...

That's a lot of confirmed new features. I'm really glad the rebels are a joinable faction. But will they have faction quests, I wonder? Independent from the main quest. That'd be neat.

As a deep dungeon diver who explores every nook of every dungeon, radiant story is going to be sweet.

I noticed the looting kept the sound effects of opening and getting things....a small detail but critical imo.

I have even more confirmed features! 

- Visible wind can be seen winding through certain areas.

-Argonians can have horns.

-New lockpicking minigame involving feeling for a "sweetspot" with one pick and twisting with the other.

-The Stormcloak rebels can invite you to a meeting where you can presumably join their ranks.

[RymenQwun]

[quote]chunkyman wrote...

[quote]sympathy4saren wrote...

-Argonians can have horns.

[/quote]
Stop the ****ing bus.
Where's your source? I'm hoarding all Skyrim-Argonian related info.

[naughty99]

Druss99 wrote...

naughty99 wrote...
15. Complete one handed and two handed perks list confirmed

Do you have a link to this? I seem to have missed it but I'd be quite interested in seeing the list.

Two Handed Perks

• Two-handed Prowess: Two-handed weapons do 20% more damage.
• Two-handed Tactics
• Limbsplitter (3 ranks)
• Deep Wounds (3 ranks): Attacks with greatswords have a 10% change of doing critical damage.
• Skullcrusher (3 ranks) Attacks with warhammers ignore 25% of armor (Requires Two-handed 30)
• Devastating Blow
• Great Charge!

One Handed Perks

• One-handed Prowess: One-handed weapons other than daggers do 40% more damage.
• One-handed Tactics
• Stand and Deliver
• Savage Blows
• Charge!
• Hack and Slash (3 ranks) - Attacks with war axes cause extra bleeding damage (Requires One-handed 30)
• Bone Breaker (3 ranks)
• Bladesman (3 ranks)

[chunkyman]

RymenQwun wrote...

chunkyman wrote...

-Argonians can have horns.

Stop the ****ing bus.
Where's your source? I'm hoarding all Skyrim-Argonian related info.

Don't trust my word? Fine.

[naughty99]

RymenQwun wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

-Argonians can have horns.

Stop the ****ing bus.
Where's your source? I'm hoarding all Skyrim-Argonian related info.

Argonians could have horns in Oblivion and Morrowind.

(Unless that is due to one of my mods?)

Modifié par naughty99, 09 août 2011 - 06:23 .

[Redneck1st]

Will have to admit that I've never played any of the Eder Scrolls and found Elder Scrolls III Anniversery edition or Game of the Year edition as well as for E. S. IV  on a couple of sites. Now E. S. III was something like $22. and I was wondering if they were worth buying? How does the graphics and game play compare to games like DA, the Baulders Gate or Never Winter night or TW series of games?

And help on this one would be surely appreciated. And it would give me an idea on whether or not it would be worth getting into this one.

Thanks

[Bryy_Miller]

You can start with Skyrim and you won't even miss a beat. Honestly.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 09 août 2011 - 07:01 .

[naughty99]

Redneck1st wrote...

Will have to admit that I've never played any of the Eder Scrolls and found Elder Scrolls III Anniversery edition or Game of the Year edition as well as for E. S. IV  on a couple of sites. Now E. S. III was something like $22. and I was wondering if they were worth buying? How does the graphics and game play compare to games like DA, the Baulders Gate or Never Winter night or TW series of games?

And help on this one would be surely appreciated. And it would give me an idea on whether or not it would be worth getting into this one.

Thanks

Those two games rank right up at the top of the list of my all time favs. i just started playing Morrowind recently and I'm really enjoying it, but Oblivion I've played for a couple of years. (Still have never even scratched the surface of the main quest or some of the big guild questlines)

I'd suggest to watch some youtube let's play videos, especially where the person who uploaded the video is playing with some really good mods like:  

FCOM, Duke Patricks (all of the Duke mods including Hypothermia and Combat Magic), Deadly Reflex, Better Cities, Tamriel NPCs Revamped, OBGEv2, Qarl's High Res Texture Pack, Midas Magic, Oblivifall Losing My Religion, Giskard's Necromancer Mod, Origin of the Mages' Guild, Fighter's Guild Contracts, Gold Horse Courier, Lore Dialogue 300, Myths and Legends, Ashes to Ashes, Unique Landscapes, Atmospheric Oblivion, AWLS, Symphony of Violence, Oblivion Stereo Sound Overhaul, COBL Real Hunger, Real Thirst, Real Sleep Extended, Oblivifall Let's Talk and Enhanced Economy

[Bryy_Miller]

naughty99 wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

naughty99 wrote...
15. Complete one handed and two handed perks list confirmed

Do you have a link to this? I seem to have missed it but I'd be quite interested in seeing the list.

Two Handed Perks

• Two-handed Prowess: Two-handed weapons do 20% more damage.
• Two-handed Tactics
• Limbsplitter (3 ranks)
• Deep Wounds (3 ranks): Attacks with greatswords have a 10% change of doing critical damage.
• Skullcrusher (3 ranks) Attacks with warhammers ignore 25% of armor (Requires Two-handed 30)
• Devastating Blow
• Great Charge!

One Handed Perks

• One-handed Prowess: One-handed weapons other than daggers do 40% more damage.
• One-handed Tactics
• Stand and Deliver
• Savage Blows
• Charge!
• Hack and Slash (3 ranks) - Attacks with war axes cause extra bleeding damage (Requires One-handed 30)
• Bone Breaker (3 ranks)
• Bladesman (3 ranks)

[*]I wanted them to have fun names.

[GodWood]

ErichHartmann wrote...
Has anyone decided what race and type of character they'll first play?

I'll have 3 characters going at once (one for each combat style)

Khajiit Rogue
J'zin-Dar, a khajiit scholar/philosopher nationalist with a bad skooma addiction.
Reason for arrest: Possesion of skooma and moon sugar. Trafficking of skooma and moon sugar.
Romance: A fellow khajiit
Will focus on non-combat rogue skills.

Orc Warrior
Barothmuk gro-Ghash, was part of an orc clan known for their pillaging.
Reason for arrest: Murder, rape, arson, pillaging and other barbariany things.
Romance: Nord female
Will focus on blunt 2-handed weapons and the like.

Breton Mage
Loosely based off myself in appearance.
Reason for arrest: Daedra worship. Necromancy. Theft. Burglary. Pickpocketing and tax evasion.
Romance: Long legged altmer babe
Focus on defensive magic (Conjuration, Restoration, Alchemy etc)

Modifié par GodWood, 09 août 2011 - 08:02 .

[naughty99]

GodWood wrote...

ErichHartmann wrote...
Has anyone decided what race and type of character they'll first play?

I'll have 3 characters going at once (one for each combat style)

Khajiit Rogue
J'zin-Dar, a khajiit scholar/philosopher nationalist with a bad skooma addiction.
Reason for arrest: Possesion of skooma and moon sugar. Trafficking of skooma and moon sugar.
Will focus on non-combat rogue skills.

Orc Warrior
Barothmuk gro-Ghash, was part of an orc clan known for their pillaging.
Reason for arrest: Murder, rape, arson, pillaging and other barbariany things.
Will focus on blunt 2-handed weapons and the like.

Breton Mage
Loosely based off myself in appearance.
Reason for arrest: Daedra worship. Necromancy. Theft. Burglary. Pickpocketing and tax evasion.
Focus on defensive magic (Conjuration, Restoration, Alchemy etc)

Nice! I love the names you created and the reasons for arrest.

Quite dastardly:wizard:

[Bryy_Miller]

My turn.

Nord Warrior
Larkyn Greenthorn
Arrest: Killing a man in a brawl.

Orc Mage
Klamath Orin
Arrest: bein' an Orc

Aragonian Rogue
Carnagie Xatt
Arrest: Stealing the Elder Scrolls. All of the Elder Scrolls. And then forging them. This was not found out for a month.

[naughty99]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

My turn.

Nord Warrior
Larkyn Greenthorn
Arrest: Killing a man in a brawl.

Orc Mage
Klamath Orin
Arrest: bein' an Orc

Great names!

seems like it's hard out here for an Orc!

Aragonian Rogue
Carnagie Xatt
Arrest: Stealing the Elder Scrolls. All of the Elder Scrolls. And then forging them. This was not found out for a month.

All of them? LMAO - so maybe the trailer is based on a forgery and they never "told of their return"?

I'm kind of waiting to see the Argonian, Breton, Dunmer and Imperial character design screens, but I'm thinking I'll go with one of the following builds - also the reason why they were arrested crossing the border. Haven't thought of any names yet.

1. Orc Bandit Marauder
Reason for Arrest: Caught attempting to smuggle a mammoth carrying a large quantity of Skooma
Skills: two-handed battle axes, smithing, heavy armor, (nothing else, no alchemy, no spells, no enchanting, no block)
Perks:
- Limbsplitter (3 ranks)
- Deep Wounds (3 ranks): Attacks with greatswords have a 10% change of doing critical damage.
- Skullcrusher (3 ranks) Attacks with warhammers ignore 25% of armor (Requires Two-handed 30)
- Devastating Blow
- Great Charge!

2. Khajit Dual Wield Assassin
Reason for Arrest: framed by the Dark Brotherhood for the murder of the High King of Skyrim
Skills: one-handed weapons (dual wield daggers), pickpocket, poisons (alchemy), sneak, security, speechcraft (no enchanting, no smithing, no spells)
Perks:
- Assassinate (daggers do 10x damage with stealth attack)
- Savage Blows
- Charge!
- Bone Breaker (3 ranks)
- Bladesman (3 ranks)


3. Bosmer Archer/Ranger
Reason for Arrest: caught attempting to smuggle human flesh
Skills: archery, alchemy, speechcraft, sneak, security, pickpocket, light armor (no enchanting, no smithing, no spells)
Perks:
- Bullet Time Archery Perk
- Zoom Archery Perk

4. Argonian Tribal Shaman
Reason for Arrest: suspected of Necromancy
Skills: Illusion, Alchemy, Enchanting, One-handed axes, staves, Smithing (nothing else)
Perks TBC

5. Dunmer or Breton Necromancer
Reason for Arrest: suspected of being a Skooma addict
Skills: Conjuration, Destruction, Restoration, Illusion, Enchanting, Alchemy, (will use one-handed dagger occasionally, but not much)
Perks TBC

Modifié par naughty99, 09 août 2011 - 08:36 .

[Bryy_Miller]

naughty99 wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Aragonian Rogue
Carnagie Xatt
Arrest: Stealing the Elder Scrolls. All of the Elder Scrolls. And then forging them. This was not found out for a month.

All of them? LMAO - so maybe the trailer is based on a forgery and they never "told of their return"?

That's the main idea. In an alternative universe, if I were writing Skyrim, the key to defeating Alduin would lie in the fact that the Scrolls were not real. Ideally, it would be a simply misprononciation. 

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 09 août 2011 - 09:04 .

[Redneck1st]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

You can start with Skyrim and you won't even miss a beat. Honestly.

So are you saying that the ES III; ES IV and ES V aren't tied together with one another that they are individual games? 

How easy is the game play to learn and is it pretty straight forward? 

[naughty99]

Redneck1st wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

You can start with Skyrim and you won't even miss a beat. Honestly.

So are you saying that the ES III; ES IV and ES V aren't tied together with one another that they are individual games? 

How easy is the game play to learn and is it pretty straight forward? 

They are tied together in the sense that they inhabit the same world, with the same mythology, history, religions, but the games are spaced centuries apart and set on different continents of provinces of this world.

There isn't any way to import saves from previous games and each game completely stands on its own.

If you can wait until November, Skyrim will probably be the best introduction to the series.

I only found out about Oblivion a couple years ago, and it eventually became my favorite game. If I had played Morrowind first, I think I would have been turned off by the dated graphics, but now I'm really enjoying Morrowind, partly because I got deep into the Elder Scrolls world and mythos through Oblivion. 

If you're curious, I'd suggest watching a few youtube videos to get an idea of the gameplay for Oblivion and Morrowind.

Modifié par naughty99, 09 août 2011 - 09:40 .

[Haplose]

Redneck1st wrote...

Will have to admit that I've never played any of the Eder Scrolls and found Elder Scrolls III Anniversery edition or Game of the Year edition as well as for E. S. IV  on a couple of sites. Now E. S. III was something like $22. and I was wondering if they were worth buying? How does the graphics and game play compare to games like DA, the Baulders Gate or Never Winter night or TW series of games?

And help on this one would be surely appreciated. And it would give me an idea on whether or not it would be worth getting into this one.

Thanks

Wait for Skyrim, IMVHO. Seems like they MIGHT correct a lot of their errors in this one. I'm slowly changing my attitude from uninterested to awaiting eagerly. Let's see how deep the changes are though.. and if I can find some immersion this time around.

As for whether they are worth buying.... depends on what you're looking for in games, really.
It won't be anything like the experience in the games you have listed. Elder Scrolls have next to no story, dialogue, character psychology. Or immerssion for that matter (at least for me). Poor realtime combat. Counter-intuitive character development - particularly in Oblivion, where unless you never use your class skills, you become weaker with every level the game foces on you, as enemies level with you... and soon every band of dirty bandits you meet will be using elite glass armors. You can sort of "beat" the system by "tagging" skills you like least as your "class" skills and never levelling them. This will prevent you from gaining new levels and you can train your really important skills at whatever pace you wish.

On the positive side, they do have a large world to explore. Lots of samey quests - though you're more likely to die of boredom, then complete them all. It's also a nicely looking world. Oblivion has better graphics, particularly in regard to character models, but is much more bland and restricted. Morrowind does offer an impressive freedom and sort of interesting, nicely varied setting, but character models are so ugly you're eyes hurt from looking  at them. But at least you can fly in Morrowind, travel hasted, do some real enchanting and spell creation. Oblivion is horribly dumbed-down and just a pale shadow of Morrowind made with extensive use of copy-paste (though with nicer graphics).

So if aimless free roaming in a sandbox is what you want in a game - go ahead and pick one of them - either Morrowind for the interesting setting and full freedom or Oblivion for nice graphics.
Or you could do better and pick Gothic 2. That one at least has an immersive, not copy-pasted world, some story and characters. Oh, and far superior combat, as well as more interesting character development. A city that is bustling with ambience, NPCs that react to your actions.

If on the other hand you're looking for an immersive story, interesting dialogue, quests, fun combat and rewarding character development -  look elsewhere. You won't find those things here. Hopefully Skyrim will address at least some of those omissions.

Modifié par Haplose, 09 août 2011 - 10:03 .

[naughty99]

To add to Haplose's post, among videogame RPGs, there have been some very well-done games by developers like Bioware that allow the player to experience an epic story that is fully fleshed out, where the PC has a predefined role to play in a rigidly structured story, with some choices that affect the final outcome.

And on the other hand, there are developers like Bethesda that immerse the player in a wide open sandbox narrative where you are at greater liberty to define the story's arc yourself, for example, who your character is, where he comes from, which NPCs he wants to befriend, dislike or flirt with, why he does what he does and which quests and organizations he wants to join.

Neither is necessarily better than the other from an empirical perspective, but on a subjective level, some videogame RPG fans prefer one or the other, and some enjoy both types of games.

Considering the limitations of technology, it may not ever be possible to recreate the truly infinite choices open to the pen-and-paper RPG player, where you are only limited by your imagination, but open sandbox games with deep character customization and huge, complex game worlds, lots of layers of gameplay activities, organizations and factions you can join, complex interaction with NPCs, deep economy features, branching quests, etc., come the closest to recapturing that experience, because you can ALMOST "go where you want and do what you want," which is simply not possible in more rigidly constructed games with a pre-determined protagonist and "boxed-in" story arc.

Personally some of the most well-written and engaging quests I've ever played in any videogame have been in Oblivion. Emil Pagliarulo wrote most of these and evidently, he is one of the greatest game designers of our time. (I was really glad to hear the announcement that he was also responsible for writing the Dark Brotherhood questline in Skyrim.)

I won't reveal any details so as not to spoil them, but out of Oblivion's roughly 290 different quests, these are some of the ones I enjoyed most:

============
Whodunit?
Paranoia
(these are my two all time favorites out of any game I've ever played)
============

A Brush With Death
A Shadow Over Hackdirt
An Unexpected Voyage
Where the Spirits Have Lease
Accident's Happen
Shivering Isles Main Quest
Through a Nightmare, Darkly
The Knights of the Nine
Mehrunes Razor
Sheogorath's Quest
Purification
Vaermina's Quest
Mephala's Quest
Sanguine's Quest

Modifié par naughty99, 09 août 2011 - 10:57 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

No Purification or The Ultimate Heist? I thought those two, along with Whodunit? were by far the best Oblivion quests, myself.

But the Gothics are open world games too. I feel like they typically are better open world games because of the cohesion of the gameworld, though Elder Scrolls games are superior sandboxes.

Bit like the difference between New Vegas and Fallout 3. New Vegas is a better open world game and Fallout 3 is a better Sandbox.

At least by my reckoning.

[naughty99]

mrcrusty wrote...

No Purification or The Ultimate Heist? I thought those two, along with Whodunit? were by far the best Oblivion quests, myself.

But the Gothics are open world games too. I feel like they typically are better open world games because of the cohesion of the gameworld, though Elder Scrolls games are superior sandboxes.

Bit like the difference between New Vegas and Fallout 3. New Vegas is a better open world game and Fallout 3 is a better Sandbox.

At least by my reckoning.

LOL - purification is great, forgot about that one.

I've been playing Oblivion for years and even after hundreds and hundreds of hours, I still haven't completed the fighter's guild questline or the thieves' guild questline, so I will be tackling The Ultimate Heist soon - looking forward to it! 

(and I haven't even scratched the surface of the main quest)

 

[Captain Crash]

naughty99 wrote...

Animal Companions just confirmed

Source: http://twitter.com/#...622440564133889

The information just keeps flowing!!!  :happy:


This shouldnt have been suprising at all considering Fallout 3, but for reason it is!!