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Joy Divison

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Waiting for Dawnguard, I decided to buy and play Oblivion. It's tough to play because, well, it looks really dated and I haven't figured out the logic of the leveling system or how melee fighting works. I'm pretty sure I was swinging that Claymore just as fast as a dagger...

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There is no logic in Oblivion's levelling system. You have to cheat the system in order to actually get stronger in relation to your opponents. As gaining new levels actually hurts more then it helps. So what you actually want to do is slow down the pace of getting new levels and get best possible attribute multipliers between level-ups.
Oblivion has absolutely the worst character development mechanics out of any game I have played.

Better play Morrowind or maybe Gothic if you look for a fantasy sandbox experience.

Modifié par Haplose, 27 juillet 2012 - 08:01 .


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I remember the 5+5+5 leveling system for Oblivion. It still gives me nightmares.

The Dark Brotherhood was entertaining, and so was the expansion pack of the Shivering Isles. That was a lot of fun - I didn't know what to expect, and it was a nice surprise.

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Joy Divison wrote...

Waiting for Dawnguard, I decided to buy and play Oblivion. It's tough to play because, well, it looks really dated and I haven't figured out the logic of the leveling system or how melee fighting works. I'm pretty sure I was swinging that Claymore just as fast as a dagger...


I used  NPC Static Level and No Obsolete Loot and Enemies.  I may reinstall Oblivion since I did everything except the main quest and Shivering Isles.

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blaidfiste wrote...

I used  NPC Static Level and No Obsolete Loot and Enemies.  I may reinstall Oblivion since I did everything except the main quest and Shivering Isles.


This does sound like a big improvement. Still won't solve the Major skill ridiculeness and uneven character progress depending on skills used between level ups.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

I remember the 5+5+5 leveling system for Oblivion. It still gives me nightmares.


Actually the optimal path to make the strongest character was 5+5+1, as you couldn't get a higher multiplyer for Luck. It took a while to get Luck up to 100, so the sooner you started increasing it, the better :)

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Funny enough I've ran into two issues, one bad one good.

The bad is my house in Whiterun the alchemic lab upgrade won't purchase. I mean it will but I never get it I lost 1000 gold on it, pft I should murder that robber.

And the Good, or the od rather is the 2nd time I ran into whiterun the Blood on the Ice Quest launched.

Also funny enough Vampires should avoid that city at all cost, so many people tagged as immortals more so at night, the dark elf patrol of drunks pretty much just beat the crap out of them.

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Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Funny enough I've ran into two issues, one bad one good.

The bad is my house in Whiterun the alchemic lab upgrade won't purchase. I mean it will but I never get it I lost 1000 gold on it, pft I should murder that robber.

And the Good, or the od rather is the 2nd time I ran into whiterun the Blood on the Ice Quest launched.

Also funny enough Vampires should avoid that city at all cost, so many people tagged as immortals more so at night, the dark elf patrol of drunks pretty much just beat the crap out of them.


Am guessing you mean Windhelm?

Not certain, but I have read that if one seperates the purchase of the home from the customization, this helps prevent bugs. Perhaps loading an earlier save might help?

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On the 2nd part? Yeah didn't feel the need to name the city, that quest is infamous for not working.

Also I don't use alchemy enough to care much. But it might would problem is I've moved so far from that point. Ah well.

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Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Also funny enough Vampires should avoid that city at all cost, so many people tagged as immortals more so at night, the dark elf patrol of drunks pretty much just beat the crap out of them.


You're telling me - two separate vampire attacks happened in Windhelm when I first loaded up Dawnguard, and both times the vampires got the s*** beat out of them by Rolf Stone-Fist, Arivanya, and Silda the Unseen. I barely had to intervene at all.

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Got some bad news for you PC and PS3 players:

www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/26/bethesda-exec-we-have-not-announced-dawnguard-for-any-other-platform

Looks like they don't even have an idea of when it will be released - you all have my sympathies.

#24162
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Lol, classy...
Well i have enough gaming ammunition thanks to steam summer sales so, they can take thier time :)

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RedArmyShogun

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lolz wut? No

Pft Modz can fix this!

Comments? I am disappoint.

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Why am I getting the feeling this is just going to lead to them saying "NO DLC FOR YOU" pretty soon?

I seriously will not be surprised if we learn that Microsoft somehow got a deal where only they got DLC.
If so I am going to be pretty peeved.

I know, I know I am being negative but its pretty hard being told that something you waited a month for is nowhere in sight

#24165
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I doubt they'ld do that unless its something from management. The PS3 though I think Bethseda and Sony haven't been getting along so its possible they might be left in the cold. PC no way unless MS is offering big cuts for several 360/next gen only titles in the long run.

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 27 juillet 2012 - 02:39 .


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Elhanan wrote...

Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Funny enough I've ran into two issues, one bad one good.

The bad is my house in Whiterun the alchemic lab upgrade won't purchase. I mean it will but I never get it I lost 1000 gold on it, pft I should murder that robber.

And the Good, or the od rather is the 2nd time I ran into whiterun the Blood on the Ice Quest launched.

Also funny enough Vampires should avoid that city at all cost, so many people tagged as immortals more so at night, the dark elf patrol of drunks pretty much just beat the crap out of them.


Am guessing you mean Windhelm?

Not certain, but I have read that if one seperates the purchase of the home from the customization, this helps prevent bugs. Perhaps loading an earlier save might help?

The Alchemy lab is a known bug with Dawnguard. Loading an earlier save will not help. The only way for it to not be broken is to load a game in which you've already purchased the alchemy lab, pre-Dawnguard.

@Bear - don't take it for granted that NPCs will always be safe in Windhelm from vampires. Silda the Unseen bit it once in this playthrough, so I reloaded and fast traveled elsewhere before going there.

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Haplose wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I remember the 5+5+5 leveling system for Oblivion. It still gives me nightmares.


Actually the optimal path to make the strongest character was 5+5+1, as you couldn't get a higher multiplyer for Luck. It took a while to get Luck up to 100, so the sooner you started increasing it, the better :)


You're right... I can't believe I forgot about Luck. I guess it's been that long since I last played Oblivion.

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I was doing the Book of Love quest last night, and right as the spiritual lovers floated off into space (near Gjukar's Monument), a dragon started attacking something nearby. I went over to see what it was, and it was a giant. It only took the dragon landing twice, right in front of it, and that giant kicked its ass.

I ran over and grabbed its soul, and was on my way. Image IPB

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greengoron89 wrote...

Got some bad news for you PC and PS3 players:

www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/26/bethesda-exec-we-have-not-announced-dawnguard-for-any-other-platform

Looks like they don't even have an idea of when it will be released - you all have my sympathies.


Frak. It feels like Oblivion all over again.

Time to check out that certain site with videos and check out Dawnguard, since it seems like Hell is going to freeze over before I get the opportunity to actually play it.

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For me, the delay is about missing the new story.

While I am more into getting new implementations for the entire game with the DLC, being a story junkie has me craving a change from the Faction quests I now know so well. While there is a ton of content in Skyrim, there is only so many times one can aquire the Staff of Magnus, or exploit the Daedric Book of Knowledge before tedium comes knocking.

On a btighter note, I will start a new Dragonborn for the DLC named Kel Orin; taken from the dialogue of Paarthunax. Now to select a race....

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I hate platform politics, especially since the Xbox is merely a stripped down PC (relative to my PC). I guess we can take some solace in Xbox owners effectively being beta testers for this DLC, which despite politics will eventually happen for PC and PS3 (unless Bethesda wants to alienate these platforms, which I doubt.)

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Meanwhile at Microsoft HQ:
http://images.wikia.com/lotr/images/e/ec/Mordor's_DuoSpire.png

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You would think they would be working behind the scenes on the PC and PS3 versions of Dawnguard during the exclusivity period, but noooo, they had to do nothing in that time and say afterwards "Oh, we don't know when it's coming out!". Ugh.

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It looks like that rumor about the DLC period being 60 days is more apt.

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Well, that kind of sucks but I've still got lots to do in Skyrim so I can wait longer. I doubt Bethesda would not release the DLC for PC, surely that's still going to be a significant market for them, especially with modders.

Speaking of mods, my favourite mod for some time is this, Dirge shuts up. skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9357

Dirge needed to learn some respect for the boss.