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[blaidfiste]

LobselVith8 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Got some bad news for you PC and PS3 players:

www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/26/bethesda-exec-we-have-not-announced-dawnguard-for-any-other-platform

Looks like they don't even have an idea of when it will be released - you all have my sympathies.

Frak. It feels like Oblivion all over again.

Time to check out that certain site with videos and check out Dawnguard, since it seems like Hell is going to freeze over before I get the opportunity to actually play it.

Most useless tweet ever.  An announcement that they haven't announced anything, don't know when they will announce anything and if they have an announcement to make, they'll make it.  He himself later tweeted that it may have been better to just shut up.  No worries though, I'm playing Nord warrior for the first time ever in a TES game.  He should be entertaining enough for a few more weeks while I wait.

[happy_daiz]

I haven't talked to anyone in the Companions in this playthrough. I keep thinking maybe I should, but nah. I always end up as a werewolf, for disease resistance, but I just can't reconcile that in my head with a Khajiit.

She already sold her soul to Nocturnal, though. In fact, she's Guildmaster.  Nocturnal's blessing is kinda nice if you're a stealth character.

I've been working on getting all of the permanent bonuses I can think of - Agent of Mara, Agent of Dibella, Sailor's Repose, etc. I've had Ancient Knowledge for a while.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 27 juillet 2012 - 05:20 .

[Addai]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Meanwhile at Microsoft HQ:
*snip*

LOL

Bethesda won't not release the DLC for other platforms- that would be insane.  I suspect that the PS3 is holding it back for all of us.  PS3 players are already very upset that they haven't gotten the same patches that the rest of us have.  If they also don't get the DLC when everyone else does, that would cue even more outrage.

[blaidfiste]

happy_daiz wrote...

I haven't talked to anyone in the Companions in this playthrough. I keep thinking maybe I should, but nah. I always end up as a werewolf, for disease resistance, but I just can't reconcile that in my head with a Khajiit.

She already sold her soul to Nocturnal, though. In fact, she's Guildmaster.  Nocturnal's blessing is kinda nice if you're a stealth character.

I've been working on getting all of the permanent bonuses I can think of - Agent of Mara, Agent of Dibella, Sailor's Repose, etc. I've had Ancient Knowledge for a while.

Lol I agree werewolf as a Khajiit is an odd concept.  You're already in beast form.

[Elhanan]

I did see a mod that allows one to kinda tell Nocturnal, "Thanks, but no thanks!" in the TG quests; thought that was humerous.

[Endurium]

My plan, which remains to be seen, is to get in good with everyone (I'll side with Imperials for this character) and do everything but DB, then do DB to completion and run around murdering most everyone in Skyrim (if any pesky essential flags remain I'll disable them).

I did that in Oblivion, modded to remove world respawns so guards couldn't come back, and it was eerie, but quite fun.

[LobselVith8]

Elhanan wrote...

I did see a mod that allows one to kinda tell Nocturnal, "Thanks, but no thanks!" in the TG quests; thought that was humerous.

You mean the Dragonborn could simply end the Thieves Guild Questline by refusing Nocturnal's offer, and that was it?

[Giggles_Manically]

I had a friend who did that actually.

Him: Sell my soul!?!?
Karliah: Yes
Him: Screw this! I am out of here!

And he just walked out and left.

[Elhanan]

LobselVith8 wrote...

You mean the Dragonborn could simply end the Thieves Guild Questline by refusing Nocturnal's offer, and that was it?

It is called Less Eternal Nocturnal Oath. See here for Workshop info:

http://steamcommunit...ext=nightingale

[Olaf_de_IJsbeer]

I know what the next game's main quest will be about. With the death of the Dovahkiin, war erupts all over Oblivion and Mundus too because everyone wants a piece of his/her soul. The Dragonborn did pledge his/her soul to just about everyone, right? The PC of the next game will have to deal with that war and any fallout from it.

The 'main sidequest' will be about the Thalmor, naturally.

[Abraham_uk]

For each class concept: I'm aware that classes don't exist anymore. I'm just asking which race best meets each of the below playstyles.

Vampire
Warewolf

Pure mage
Pure rogue
Pure warrior

Warrior/rogue
Warrior/mage
Mage/rogue

Merchant crafter: Enchanting, alchemy, smithing, speech, barter. Also ability to carry a lot of items.

Jack of all Trades (preference for mage)
Jack of all Trades (preference for rogue)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warrior)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warewolf)
Jack of all Trades (preference for vampire)
True Jack of all Trades

Dragon Born: Emphasis on slaying dragons and dragon shouts.

[Elhanan]

Based on a little more reading of the IG Lore. the Thalmor do appear to be on the brink of of something major. I would expect to see much more of them again, if TES VI is at least as good as Skyrim.

[Olaf_de_IJsbeer]

Maybe that war could be a prime opportunity for the Thalmor to kill Talos (if such a thing is even possible) and thus plunge Mundus into chaos.

[Elhanan]

Abraham_uk wrote...

For each class concept: I'm aware that classes don't exist anymore. I'm just asking which race best meets each of the below playstyles.

Vampire
Warewolf

Pure mage
Pure rogue
Pure warrior

Warrior/rogue
Warrior/mage
Mage/rogue

Merchant crafter: Enchanting, alchemy, smithing, speech, barter. Also ability to carry a lot of items.

Jack of all Trades (preference for mage)
Jack of all Trades (preference for rogue)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warrior)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warewolf)
Jack of all Trades (preference for vampire)
True Jack of all Trades

Dragon Born: Emphasis on slaying dragons and dragon shouts.

You may wish to take a look in this mod for details. It apparently returns to earlier class based TES games, and has received a few recommendations:

http://steamcommunit...9890=

Modifié par Elhanan, 27 juillet 2012 - 07:46 .

[Giggles_Manically]

So they put the info up for Bethesda saying they have no idea when Dawnguard comes out.

Holy crap on a cheese biscuit are people mad.
BETRAYL!
SELLING OUT!
RRARRGGHH!!!

haha

[Addai]

Can't believe anyone misses the class system. It may have worked in Morrowind, I dunno, but in Oblivion it was a complete mess.

[Endurium]

Like others, I used a leveling mod for Oblivion. Perhaps unlike others, I deliberately picked a class which gave me the lowest possible scores on my primary skills. This allowed a maximum level of 50+, which combined with the leveling cap on NPCs, let me be quite powerful.

[Druss99]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So they put the info up for Bethesda saying they have no idea when Dawnguard comes out.

Holy crap on a cheese biscuit are people mad.
BETRAYL!
SELLING OUT!
RRARRGGHH!!!

haha

Unfortunately thats how things go these days, the slightest thing and people fly off the handle with threats and crazed outbursts. It's pretty much certain that DG is coming out and I can see why its frustrating, but alot of people seem to confuse expressing annoyance with going f*cking ballistic.

Look at what happened with Bioware, people went nuts over the slightest thing for years until when things did really go horribly wrong (DA2, ME3) the company are almost immune to the outcry and people had nowhere to go with their rage except crazy stuff like retake ME.

[naughty99]

Abraham_uk wrote...

For each class concept: I'm aware that classes don't exist anymore. I'm just asking which race best meets each of the below playstyles.

Vampire - works great with any race or class build
Warewolf - I would think this could be a fun way to balance a scholarly mage character, but since you must join the Companions to become one, I've only played a brutish warrior who became a werewolf

For playing a pure mage, pure rogue, pure warrior, or any kind of build think what's most important is considering your character's backstory. 

Are you playing a Dunmer thief who left the life of a refugee in Solstheim to earn a fortune and make a name for himself in Skyrim? An Argonian tribal shaman? A Bosmer warrior seeking revenge on the Thalmor? There are some small starting benefits for various races, like Altmer and Breton have slightly higher starting magic skills, etc., but it all evens out by level 5 or so. You can do well with any race and build combination, go for whichever race matches your character's history.

 "Merchant crafter: Enchanting, alchemy, smithing, speech, barter. Also ability to carry a lot of items." 

 

Imperials have a daily power Voice of the Emperor, which might be good if you are playing a character focusing on speechcraft.

Jack of all Trades (preference for mage)
Jack of all Trades (preference for rogue)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warrior)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warewolf)
Jack of all Trades (preference for vampire)
True Jack of all Trades

I've never played any JOTA characters in Skyrim. The specialized combat styles and magic are too much fun. However, any race will be just fine for a JOTA character.

[blaidfiste]

Abraham_uk wrote...

For each class concept: I'm aware that classes don't exist anymore. I'm just asking which race best meets each of the below playstyles.

Vampire
Warewolf

Pure mage
Pure rogue
Pure warrior

Warrior/rogue
Warrior/mage
Mage/rogue

Merchant crafter: Enchanting, alchemy, smithing, speech, barter. Also ability to carry a lot of items.

Jack of all Trades (preference for mage)
Jack of all Trades (preference for rogue)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warrior)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warewolf)
Jack of all Trades (preference for vampire)
True Jack of all Trades

Dragon Born: Emphasis on slaying dragons and dragon shouts.

Vampire - dunmer %50 fire resist, altmer bonus to illusion magic
Warewolf - nord, orc, redguard

Pure mage - altmer
Pure rogue - khajiit, bosmer
Pure warrior - nord, orc, redguard

Warrior/rogue - redguard
Warrior/mage - breton
Mage/rogue - breton, dunmer

Merchant crafter: Enchanting, alchemy, smithing, speech, barter. Also ability to carry a lot of items. - imperial

Dragon Born: Emphasis on slaying dragons and dragon shouts.  Nord with amulet of Talos.  Also helps with game setting.

[Abraham_uk]

Addai67 wrote...

Can't believe anyone misses the class system. It may have worked in Morrowind, I dunno, but in Oblivion it was a complete mess.

Oblivion's class system was interesting.

You pick 7 key skills. The rest of your skills are minor skills.
Every time you perform a specific action x amount of times, the related skill statistic increases by one point.

Every time you level up you select which Core stats you want to boost.


But in the end it's a bit like dating Jacob Taylor in Mass Effect.
No matter which class you choose, it doesn't really matter. The game encouraged me to be a bit of a jack of all trades. I still had a strong focus on magic though.

Oblivion has the most flexible class system I've ever seen. The only way it could have been more flexible was to ditch classes all together. Oh wait Skyrim did that.

[Abraham_uk]

blaidfiste wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

For each class concept: I'm aware that classes don't exist anymore. I'm just asking which race best meets each of the below playstyles.

Vampire
Warewolf

Pure mage
Pure rogue
Pure warrior

Warrior/rogue
Warrior/mage
Mage/rogue

Merchant crafter: Enchanting, alchemy, smithing, speech, barter. Also ability to carry a lot of items.

Jack of all Trades (preference for mage)
Jack of all Trades (preference for rogue)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warrior)
Jack of all Trades (preference for warewolf)
Jack of all Trades (preference for vampire)
True Jack of all Trades

Dragon Born: Emphasis on slaying dragons and dragon shouts.

Vampire - dunmer %50 fire resist, altmer bonus to illusion magic
Warewolf - nord, orc, redguard

Pure mage - altmer
Pure rogue - khajiit, bosmer
Pure warrior - nord, orc, redguard

Warrior/rogue - redguard
Warrior/mage - breton
Mage/rogue - breton, dunmer

Merchant crafter: Enchanting, alchemy, smithing, speech, barter. Also ability to carry a lot of items. - imperial

Dragon Born: Emphasis on slaying dragons and dragon shouts.  Nord with amulet of Talos.  Also helps with game setting.

Thanks. I'll bear that in mind.

[Giggles_Manically]

You know I keep looking at the shouts and feel they needed to be different.

Like the damage ones should have been top tier destruction level stuff.
Also with a shorter cool down.

Like it should have been possible to just play around with shouts basically.
I mean you can use combat, stealth, and magic why not have SHOUTS as another school

[wickedgoodreed]

If only more shouts got an extra punch to them upon unlocking the third word of power the way that fus ro DAH does...