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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Discussion Thread

Débuté par Dune01 , déc. 17 2010 04:46

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#24926
Carcharoth42
Posté 10 août 2012 - 03:29

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Yrkoon please stop feeding the Attention troll.
That is the only reason Justina is here.

So what you're implying is that Justina is here so she can get the attention of Yrkoon...:huh::o:wizard:<3:whistle:
Anyway... Dragon's Dogma makes me wish Skyrim had larger enimies to fight.

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LPPrince
Posté 10 août 2012 - 03:31

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Dragons aren't large enough for you?

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 03:41

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I will never understand how you can continue to play and purchase DLC for a game you claim to dislike so much, Jest - are you sure you're not actually a closet Skyrim fangirl or something? Are you in denial of your undying love for The Elder Scrolls series? Do you have a candlelit shrine to Todd Howard discreetly set up in your basement?

Hell, I'll bet the only time you bother to post here is during loading screens - otherwise, you're too busy raiding Dwemer ruins and pulling down Ancient Dragons to care. That, and posting in the Bethesda forums under a Skyrim-themed alias. How cute.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 03:46

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LPPrince wrote...

Dragons aren't large enough for you?

Not anymore. The only time Ive been excited to fight dragons recently was when an elder dragon attacked Solitude at night. That may have had more to do with atmosphere than it being challenging. If I could face something that would eat the regular sized dragons however... DD realy did spoil me on boss fights.:?

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Laser Beam
Posté 10 août 2012 - 04:00

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I'm about to get Dawnguard and start a new character...I've heard about those NPC-killing random vampire attacks. Do I have to worry about that?

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 04:03

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Laser Beam wrote...

I'm about to get Dawnguard and start a new character...I've heard about those NPC-killing random vampire attacks. Do I have to worry about that?


Not really. Only if you're unlucky.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 04:04

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Laser Beam wrote...

I'm about to get Dawnguard and start a new character...I've heard about those NPC-killing random vampire attacks. Do I have to worry about that?


I'm waiting on more news about this before buying Dawnguard.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 04:34

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^No need - I'll tell you everything you need to know right now.

At around level 8 or so, you're gonna have to keep an eye out on city gates at night, and stables during the daytime. If you're careless, you WILL lose NPCs - but if you stay on your toes and make sure you're cut out to face vamps and death hounds beforehand, you'll do just fine. If you do lose an NPC, simply reload to the previous save and try again.

A small tip: you'll wanna keep the vampire (there will only ever be one) staggered, so make a few Vegetable Soups, eat one, and power attack the living s*** out of that bloodsucker. Don't worry about the thralls so much, as they're weak and NPCs can usually deal with them on their own. Having a follower also helps.

Of course, you could avoid all of that and just refrain from being in cities between 7:00 PM and 5:00 AM, and skip the stables by fast traveling directly to and from cities. I think that's the coward's way out, though.

One more thing: at least half of the time when there's a vampire attack, only a lone vampire will show up, and he will always come after you specifically. Watch out also for a hooded NPC named "Traveler" - he will approach you calmly, but as soon as you're within melee range he will attack you.

(You might also have heard that a vampire will stalk and kill NPCs in their homes - this is absolutely FALSE and has NEVER happened to me or anyone else I know, so put that rumor out of your mind at once.)

(These attacks will also stop once you complete the DG questline, so you need not concern yourself with vampire attacks anymore after that point.)

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Laser Beam
Posté 10 août 2012 - 05:21

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Okay, well I'm going to go for it. I have it on PC, so I'll just resurrect an NPC if they do die...and if I didn't want them to, that is. Excitement!

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 05:25

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I don't know...I've read about the guy sneaking in homes, as well as attacks after the quest is over...I think I'll still wait awhile personally and see what happens with you guys.

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Laser Beam
Posté 10 août 2012 - 05:48

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I'll try and let you know anything I personally come across.

#24937
MarchWaltz
Posté 10 août 2012 - 06:16

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A Ghost...a Paladin...and a Vampire?

I SMELL A SITCOM!

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Elhanan
Posté 10 août 2012 - 06:17

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I have had as many as three vampires and another couple of thralls attack the gate at Whiterun, so a Save before Fast Travel is recommended. But no home invasions have been seen thus far at all.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 07:06

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I've been on the lookout for vampire attacks, but I finished the main questline rather quickly, so it wasn't much of a problem if it's true that they stop after you do that.

Rather fortunate, since vampire NPCs scaled to a level 75 PC would probably curbstomp the hell out of innocent citizens.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:37

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Carcharoth42 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Dragons aren't large enough for you?

Not anymore. The only time Ive been excited to fight dragons recently was when an elder dragon attacked Solitude at night. That may have had more to do with atmosphere than it being challenging. If I could face something that would eat the regular sized dragons however... DD realy did spoil me on boss fights.:?

Meh,  I'll take an enemy bigger than a dragon, if for no reason than a change of pace.  But I don't judge an encounter's 'fun factor' by enemy size.  Because that just seems superficial to me.

You know what I miss, and really want more of?     A good enemy Party encounter, like the old BG series had.  a Situation where you come across a party consisting of a warrior, a mage, a cleric and a rogue.... all with equal skills and tactics to your own.  But we don't see encounters like that anymore because  that kind of thing doesn't "wow" the action crowd.  No, instead, the enemy has to be  Bigger, and badder, and scarier looking.  It has to be able to breath on you, and fly, and create earthquakes when it jumps up and down   oh and it has to have a billion-gillion health points, otherwise:  booorrrring... ,<gag>.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:37

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Does anything happen when you start House of Horrors with Serana?

#24942
Yrkoon
Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:41

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Or better yet, can you sacrifice Serena to complete Boethiah's cult quest?

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 09:59

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Assuming that's a serious question, essential followers can't be sacrificed.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 10:39

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Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...

Assuming that's a serious question, essential followers can't be sacrificed.


They'll just stand there and watch the pillar.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 11:24

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Yrkoon wrote...

Carcharoth42 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Dragons aren't large enough for you?

Not anymore. The only time Ive been excited to fight dragons recently was when an elder dragon attacked Solitude at night. That may have had more to do with atmosphere than it being challenging. If I could face something that would eat the regular sized dragons however... DD realy did spoil me on boss fights.:?

Meh,  I'll take an enemy bigger than a dragon, if for no reason than a change of pace.  But I don't judge an encounter's 'fun factor' by enemy size.  Because that just seems superficial to me.

You know what I miss, and really want more of?     A good enemy Party encounter, like the old BG series had.  a Situation where you come across a party consisting of a warrior, a mage, a cleric and a rogue.... all with equal skills and tactics to your own.  But we don't see encounters like that anymore because  that kind of thing doesn't "wow" the action crowd.  No, instead, the enemy has to be  Bigger, and badder, and scarier looking.  It has to be able to breath on you, and fly, and create earthquakes when it jumps up and down   oh and it has to have a billion-gillion health points, otherwise:  booorrrring... ,<gag>.

I just want something that requires tactics rather than "bloated health bar" enemies that you still smack in the face untill they die. Or better yet, enemies that use tactics. Why would the dragon land when it could fly around pelting you with fireballs? You would have to shoot it in the wings, force it to land and then stab it in the face till it dies.

#24946
Cutlass Jack
Posté 10 août 2012 - 11:27

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So Dawnguard creates some fun moments. Especially when doing most of it before the regular Skyrim main plot.
As I learned today when I finally got around to visiting the Greybeards for the first time. They wanted me to demonstrate the power of my Shout....and I forgot which shout I actually had selected.

Awkward!

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Felt bad for the two Greybeards in back....

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 11:29

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You're named Cutlass Jack ingame? Lol.

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Posté 10 août 2012 - 11:42

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EntropicAngel wrote...

You're named Cutlass Jack ingame? Lol.


The forum name comes from my game character, not the reverse. Been playing games with that name since the first Everquest. My pirate gets around alot.

This version was helped greatly by a mod called 'Live another Life' that lets you pick different start points for the game. In this case a shipwreck off the coast near Dawnstar. Part of the reason it took me so long to eventually get around to the main story.

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Elhanan
Posté 10 août 2012 - 12:11

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Carcharoth42 wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Meh,  I'll take an enemy bigger than a dragon, if for no reason than a change of pace.  But I don't judge an encounter's 'fun factor' by enemy size.  Because that just seems superficial to me.

You know what I miss, and really want more of?     A good enemy Party encounter, like the old BG series had.  a Situation where you come across a party consisting of a warrior, a mage, a cleric and a rogue.... all with equal skills and tactics to your own.  But we don't see encounters like that anymore because  that kind of thing doesn't "wow" the action crowd.  No, instead, the enemy has to be  Bigger, and badder, and scarier looking.  It has to be able to breath on you, and fly, and create earthquakes when it jumps up and down   oh and it has to have a billion-gillion health points, otherwise:  booorrrring... ,<gag>.


I just want something that requires tactics rather than "bloated health bar" enemies that you still smack in the face untill they die. Or better yet, enemies that use tactics. Why would the dragon land when it could fly around pelting you with fireballs? You would have to shoot it in the wings, force it to land and then stab it in the face till it dies.


NWN1 offered this via HotU, as did DAO, I believe; my two favorite games. And I agree, such tactical offerings are missed.

Skyrim offers tactical choices as well, but in my own play, some challenges are self imposed (ie; limited missed shots, no lost comrades, etc). But dragon tactics are in there already, and mods offer even more, but Dragonrend counters fairly well.

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Giggles_Manically
Posté 10 août 2012 - 12:44

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I dont think Skyrim is the proper game to have party vs party really.
Since you cant control squadmates, nor do you really need em.

I mean I LOVE Turn Based RPGs.
I play em online all the damn time.

However Skyrim really is meant for two people vs encounter really.
Also that would stress the engine....what it really needs is huge ass encounters and battle scenes like the LOTR games. Seriously it was never more fun then to just mow through mooks left and right by the score.
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