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[Belhawk]

i hope all females in the game move like females.

[Hathur]

AwesomeName wrote...

Er, don't flatter yourself, I wasn't even responding to you lol!  Not sure why you you assumed I was :/  Reading your post here though, for the most part, I think you're overanalysing!  I think most of the animations look good on her, especially the action stuff (thank god she punches properly and not like a Spice Girl!).  If they keep everything the same, but change the way she sits down in a dress and bring her old dance back, I'll be happy.

Btw, women do have lats, lol.

Well, my fiance is a marathon runner... many of her friends are also amateur athletes. Having experience in physical fitness and training from years of military service, I often help her at the gym with her training with spotting and for motivation / support.

When I watch how she, or her friends run, I watch their gait. I then watch the men on the track also running.... day and night difference in everything how they carry themselves - from positioning of elbows, shoulders and how they move through a single stride. Same thing when they walk on a cooldown period.... men and women's bone structure does not hit the ground the same way (much of this has to do with the drastic difference in our hip bones).

Anyway, I digress... What I will conceed is that during cinematics, fem Shep looks just fine.. I can't perceive anything wrong in her movements (LoTSB moments, suicide mission cinematics, etc).

But... gameplay, her movement is that of 200+lbs male... femshep has a physique that far more closely resembles my fiance who's a marathon runner, than that of body-building female (frankly, fem shep looks like 99% of the women I served with in the military... endurance that matched most male soldiers, decent physical strength for their mass... they all generally looked lean and frankly, hard to tell much difference between them and a healthy civilian).

This isn't about making fem Shep "girly".... it's about making them move the way human females actually move. Just get someone in the mo-cap studio who's a female athlete (or of average fitness) and mocap them walking, running. They did it for male shep, they should do it for femshep.

To be fair, a lot of the problems in femsheps movement is masked when wearing armor, since the armor gives the illusion of increased body mass.

Previous posters are correct though.. I did load up ME1 just 30 mins ago and femshep does in fact run and walk the way a female of her build would in the real world.. for the most part. I cannot fathom why they didn't just recycle the femshep walk / run / posture animations from ME1, rather than applying male shep's animations to her.

Modifié par Hathur, 19 décembre 2010 - 01:17 .

[Bamboozalist]

Hathur wrote...

To be fair, a lot of the problems in femsheps movement is masked when wearing armor, since the armor gives the illusion of increased body mass.

Previous posters are correct though.. I did load up ME1 just 30 mins ago and femshep does in fact run and walk the way a female of her build would in the real world.. for the most part. I cannot fathom why they didn't just recycle the femshep walk / run / posture animations from ME1, rather than applying male shep's animations to her.

You answered your on question the movements make sense when Femshep is in her armor so they probably didn't think about what that would translate to when she was out of it. Maleshep doesn't magically gain a good 4 extra inches in diameter on each arm when he puts on his armor where as Femshep does. So when they were doing the animations and the used the old Femshep animations from ME1 there were a lot of clipping problems that they forgot weren't going to be there when Shepard took off the armor and walked around in casual clothing.

[Uhh.. Jonah]

Did Bioware seriously think that people would like Femshep running like a gorilla and walking like a collecter seeker was permanately stuck up her hoohaw?

[massive_effect]

Overall, Bioware neglected femShep in ME2. I would rather that they skip femShep altogether.

[Bourne Endeavor]

massive_effect wrote...

Overall, Bioware neglected femShep in ME2. I would rather that they skip femShep altogether.

As in remove the option to play her? Why in the world would this ever be a good idea?

[NamiraWilhelm]

massive_effect wrote...

Overall, Bioware neglected femShep in ME2. I would rather that they skip femShep altogether.

Dont even joke about that


Bioware, we were so so grateful to have FemShep being feminine during the end of LotSB, more please

[Lisa_H]

I like all my femSheps. But I would really love it if her animations got a little more attention for ME3, not just a copy of maleShep. If Ladyhawke can get a female skeletal rigging, why not give femShep the same.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

massive_effect wrote...

Overall, Bioware neglected femShep in ME2. I would rather that they skip femShep altogether.

As in remove the option to play her? Why in the world would this ever be a good idea?

Figure of speech; I think he meant that, unless BioWare actually makes female Shepard a woman and gives her equal amounts of attention as her male counterpart, they shouldn't bother even making her an option.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Although i think there are many things that should take priority over femsheps manliness, i agree that she walked pretty retardedly in ME2. Actually, so did sheploo, i think they should just fix the walking animation all together.

[ReiSilver]

Hathur wrote...
This isn't about making fem Shep "girly".... it's about making them move
the way human females actually move. Just get someone in the mo-cap
studio who's a female athlete (or of average fitness) and mocap them
walking, running. They did it for male shep, they should do it for
femshep.

To be fair, a lot of the problems in femsheps movement
is masked when wearing armor, since the armor gives the illusion of
increased body mass.

I just thought I'd quote this for truth. I kind of like that my main femshep is kind of akwardly masculine (I like the way she sits in Garrus scenes, she's not one for dresses so I never had a problem there) I think it fits the earth-born background. But the model just looks off when walking/running out of armor, carrying weight that isn't there

[Jean]

ReiSilver wrote...

Hathur wrote...
This isn't about making fem Shep "girly".... it's about making them move
the way human females actually move. Just get someone in the mo-cap
studio who's a female athlete (or of average fitness) and mocap them
walking, running. They did it for male shep, they should do it for
femshep.

To be fair, a lot of the problems in femsheps movement
is masked when wearing armor, since the armor gives the illusion of
increased body mass.

I just thought I'd quote this for truth. I kind of like that my main femshep is kind of akwardly masculine (I like the way she sits in Garrus scenes, she's not one for dresses so I never had a problem there) I think it fits the earth-born background. But the model just looks off when walking/running out of armor, carrying weight that isn't there

I never had a problem with the way she sits most the time since heck, I sit like that half the time anyway.
I just want a walking animation that fits her skeleton so she doesn't look like she's about to scream "SHEPARD SMASH!" out of armor. I do think Sheploo looked a little funky too walking around.
I don't care if the Males and females have the same movements in game cutscenes.

Modifié par Batteries, 19 décembre 2010 - 01:39 .

[Merchant2006]

I always find it hilarious how my femshep sits with a dress on and has her legs wide open like a man. I mean come on BioWare ^^

[Vena_86]

It is very funny when there is a moody, silent situation, you find some resources and FemShep screams in a rather deep voice "I'LL TAKE IT!" and then continues to walk like a gorilla.

Next time I play FemShep I will call her: Butch Shepard.

Oh, the elegance.

[OSUfan12121]

I hope so, i hate it when Femshep is in the dress and sits down with her legs spread wide open. Doesnt she know any decency?

[syllogi]

The entire crew was embarrassed by the way FemShep sat:







It took an awkward chat with Liara for her to finally understand what everyone was whispering about:







Hopefully FemShep will remember this conversation going forward.

[Lisa_H]

Wow, I never really thought about that she sits more feminine in LotSB, I must head to youtube and see how manShep sits in that scene.

[Heather Cline]

I am hoping for more female movements in ME3. In ME1 she had female movements and female sitting posture among other things. ME2 was a move away from that. Let's go back to having a separate movement animation style for female Shepard in the third and final installment.

[WidowMaker9394]

Lisa_H wrote...

Wow, I never really thought about that she sits more feminine in LotSB, I must head to youtube and see how manShep sits in that scene.

Nah, he's chilling in that scene.