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[MAD WHITE HAM]

In order for Shepard to die in Mass Effect 2 you had to make poor decisions on purpose.  No upgrades, none if any loyality quests... Pick dumb squadmates for missions etc... just rush thru the game as quickly and stupidly as possible.  Now that being said I like the notion of Shepard dying in ME3 if you don't make a majority of correct decisions this time around.  Make it hard for us to survive Bioware...

Say there are 5 tough choices ahead... if we don't get 4 of the 5 correct... death to shepard.  (5 is just an arbitrairy #)

Let us decide if Shepard dies or not depending on our choices.

[Pwner1323]

It work more realistically if Shepard's survival this time around wasn't derived from only NE3's choices but choices made since ME1. It would be poor to not join all the choices since the first game to determine the outcome of ME3, and also Shepard's.



I know a lot of people would be angry at not being able to control everything, but isn't that how life works?

[Stephenc13]

Pwner1323 wrote...

It work more realistically if Shepard's survival this time around wasn't derived from only NE3's choices but choices made since ME1. It would be poor to not join all the choices since the first game to determine the outcome of ME3, and also Shepard's.

I know a lot of people would be angry at not being able to control everything, but isn't that how life works?

Yes.
A Rachni army seems to be a big thing in ME1

[GodWood]

I'm sure there will be plenty of endings where Shepard lives and others where Shepard dies.
I'm personally hoping to have a Reapers win ending, however I don't want it to only happen if I pick stupid choices (ala ME2's suicide mission)

Modifié par GodWood, 19 décembre 2010 - 03:19 .

[Mercedes-Benz]

I hope not.

[TexasToast712]

Something tells me the Paragon ending will result in Shepard saying good bye to his LI in a very tearful moment right before he sacrifices himself to somehow win the war. Renegade will get it done without sacrifice but with serious side effects I think. Good thing Iam Paragade?

Modifié par TexasToast712, 19 décembre 2010 - 04:22 .

[Delta095]

In mass effect two, when I saw shepard die in youtube videos (because I was too obsessed with the achievement and the game to not put any effort into doing side missions), it seemed sad because it was about seeing the greatest dude in the galaxy die trying to extinguish an intergalactic threat of fantastic proportions, just to find out that it was a crapload bigger than they thought.

That said, I think a shepard death in mass effect 3 would be very epic. Living legends are too overrated.

Modifié par Delta095, 19 décembre 2010 - 04:25 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

It'd be cool if it was one of the endings. A sacrifice kind of dying. Sort of like the Matrix Revolutions ending, not only with Neo, but with Trinity if theres an LI involved. One of the many endings though.



-Polite

[shumworld]

GodWood wrote...

I'm sure there will be plenty of endings where Shepard lives and others where Shepard dies.
I'm personally hoping to have a Reapers win ending, however I don't want it to only happen if I pick stupid choices (ala ME2's suicide mission)

What's wrong with having the Reapers win if Shepard made a crapload of dum choices. If Shepard is that stupid to not upgrade his ship and make sure his crew is ready etc.. then the Reapers deserve to win.

[KainrycKarr]

GodWood wrote...

I'm sure there will be plenty of endings where Shepard lives and others where Shepard dies.
I'm personally hoping to have a Reapers win ending, however I don't want it to only happen if I pick stupid choices (ala ME2's suicide mission)

Yeah, I can't remember a game BW made where there was only one ending. And the games in which the protaganist died, there was always an alternate(or primary) ending where they live.

Frankly, after killing him in the beginning of ME2, any kind of ending where Shepard dies would be kinda lameduckish to me.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I actually would like an ending where Shepard dies. Let's face it; it would make sense. Seeing as how ME3 is going to be the end of the trilogy, it makes sense for that trilogy to have one ending featuring the main character's permanent death. However, that's not to say death should be the only ending, but rather one among a bunch of possible endings with different outcomes.

We all know ME2 did have that kind of ending, but Shepard's death at the end of ME2 wasn't so much a heroic sacrifice as an "epic fail". ME3 could fix this and provide an ending where Shepard heroically sacrifices herself once and for all. I know that if done right, this would force tears out of my eyes; there's a lot of potential to such an ending for ME3.

Personally speaking, I support an optional ending where Shepard dies, but in a heroic way, not because of past mistakes or failure to stand against the enemy as was the case in ME2. As has been mentioned earlier, such an ending has so much potential; imagine if your love interest is there as well, it would only make it all the more beautiful.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 19 décembre 2010 - 05:31 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
 As has been mentioned earlier, such an ending has so much potential; imagine if your love interest is there as well, it would only make it all the more beautiful.

Exactly. If it was a Matrix type death where your LI dies first, then you after, or where both die at the same time. Some deep stuff goin' on in this thread guys. I can feel it creepin' out of my monitor. Bioware, take notes. 

-Polite

[Mr. Gogeta34]

I hope it's an option but not standard for all choices/performances

[GodWood]

shumworld wrote...

GodWood wrote...
I'm sure there will be plenty of endings where Shepard lives and others where Shepard dies.
I'm personally hoping to have a Reapers win ending, however I don't want it to only happen if I pick stupid choices (ala ME2's suicide mission)

What's wrong with having the Reapers win if Shepard made a crapload of dum choices. If Shepard is that stupid to not upgrade his ship and make sure his crew is ready etc.. then the Reapers deserve to win.

You misunderstood what I wrote.
I want to be able to lose without making dumb decisions.
E.g) I wanted some characters to die in the suicide mission but turns out for that to happen I have to have my Shepard act OoC and choose rediculous decisoins he wouldn't make. 
Thus, in my canon playthrough, nobody dies.

[Fiery Phoenix]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
 As has been mentioned earlier, such an ending has so much potential; imagine if your love interest is there as well, it would only make it all the more beautiful.

Exactly. If it was a Matrix type death where your LI dies first, then you after, or where both die at the same time. Some deep stuff goin' on in this thread guys. I can feel it creepin' out of my monitor. Bioware, take notes. 

-Polite

I would be more than happy to sacrifice one of my Shepards.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 19 décembre 2010 - 05:38 .

[Cossack72]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Exactly. If it was a Matrix type death where your LI dies first, then you after, or where both die at the same time. Some deep stuff goin' on in this thread guys. I can feel it creepin' out of my monitor. Bioware, take notes. 

-Polite

This would be good. But if that's the case, I'd hope they don't guilt us into going down that path, if that makes any sense.

[-Skorpious-]

I want the option to kill Shepard, just as long as its not forced. But I doubt that the reapers can secure a complete victory (this is a space opera after all). Although I'm sure that there will be a "we won, but the galaxy is totally FUBAR".

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I hope it's an option but not standard for all choices/performances

Of course it would need to be an option. It would be rather ridiculous to have one or more endings with Shepard dying as the only possible outcome. Think of it as DA:O; you could sacrifice your Warden for good if you wanted to, otherwise you could take one of the other routes and your Warden survives. Same thing, really.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Cossack72 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Exactly. If it was a Matrix type death where your LI dies first, then you after, or where both die at the same time. Some deep stuff goin' on in this thread guys. I can feel it creepin' out of my monitor. Bioware, take notes. 

-Polite

This would be good. But if that's the case, I'd hope they don't guilt us into going down that path, if that makes any sense.

Well maybe it will be a consequence of an action, from the first or second game, that would cause it to happen?

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
 As has been mentioned earlier, such an ending has so much potential; imagine if your love interest is there as well, it would only make it all the more beautiful.

Exactly. If it was a Matrix type death where your LI dies first, then you after, or where both die at the same time. Some deep stuff goin' on in this thread guys. I can feel it creepin' out of my monitor. Bioware, take notes. 

-Polite

I would be more than happy to sacrifice one of my Shepards.

Depends on the shepard for me

-Polite

[luakel]

Cossack72 wrote...
This would be good. But if that's the case, I'd hope they don't guilt us into going down that path, if that makes any sense.

Agree totally here, I don't want another Fallout 3, where the only non-evil endings are "and so the Lone Wanderer sacrificed themself nobly to save everyone, without trying to force his poor invulnerable-to-radiation companions to do it instead" and "and so the Lone Wanderer proved to be a selfish bastard by sacrificing someone else, shame on you".

-Skorpious- wrote...

I want the option to kill Shepard,
just as long as its not forced. But I doubt that the reapers can secure a
complete victory (this is a space opera after all). Although I'm sure
that there will be a "we won, but the galaxy is totally FUBAR".

The Galaxy's probably going to be pretty well FUBAR anyway, did you see Earth in that trailer?

[Jaron Oberyn]

ShadowJ20 wrote...

There should be multiple endings...some where Shep lives and some where Shep dies. I believe if you stay loyal to your ME1 romance Bioware said that you'll have a happy ending. You can't have a happy ending if Shepard dies........

That's open to interpretation. 

-Polite

[-Skorpious-]

luakel wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...

I want the option to kill Shepard,
just as long as its not forced. But I doubt that the reapers can secure a
complete victory (this is a space opera after all). Although I'm sure
that there will be a "we won, but the galaxy is totally FUBAR".

The Galaxy's probably going to be pretty well FUBAR anyway, did you see Earth in that trailer?

Well, FUBAR as in "The Council/client races are in ruins, humanity's core has been destroyed, and all means of major galatic communication have been drastically severed". I'm sure at least one ending will be organics prevailing with the a large percentage of their political and economical infrastructure intact.

ShadowJ20 wrote...

There should be multiple endings...some where Shep lives and some where Shep dies. I believe if you stay loyal to your ME1 romance Bioware said that you'll have a happy ending. You can't have a happy ending if Shepard dies........

What? Garrus and my fem-shep don't deserve a happy ending?

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 19 décembre 2010 - 06:08 .

[FoxShadowblade]

Say you just loaded up your first playthrough as Shepard.

You've logged 16 hours of ME1 time, done EVERYTHING.

You've played ME2 and did every little side mission..

And you die.

Do you REALLY think BioWare would base something like that on choices you've made in the first one? Make you go ALL the way back?

As for a sacrifice ending..eh..why not?

[KingDan97]

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Say you just loaded up your first playthrough as Shepard.
You've logged 16 hours of ME1 time, done EVERYTHING.
You've played ME2 and did every little side mission..
And you die.
Do you REALLY think BioWare would base something like that on choices you've made in the first one? Make you go ALL the way back?
As for a sacrifice ending..eh..why not?

I think that it won't "depend" on those choices, but a "perfect ending" will undoubtedly be much easier to acquire if you do everything "Right" in the last game.