So I'm wondering what will become of Cerberus by time ME3 comes. I think that we have two possibilities.
If you saved the Collector Base than Cerberus florishes. The news that they have this tech makes all their donors thrilled and they donate even more money to the group making it much more powerful and has more influence and because they have the base they will have a large role in ME3
If you destroyed the base than I think the exact opposite should happen to the group. After spending most of their money over the last two years to bring back Shepard and building him a new ship they end up with nothing. This huge failure causes all the donors to pull their support from TIM and Cerbuerus slowly dies and breaks up and by time ME3 starts the group is completely gone.
Do you think that these two situations sound correct? What do you think Cerberus' fate should be in ME3
Fate of Cerberus in ME3
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:17
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A reasonable theory, but I can't help but ponder whether or not TIM's going to go all psycho and do something awful. Just because he has it in him, you know?
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:19
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I think renegade shep could take over cerebrus, or paragon shep could desband it, while neutral shep may leave it as it is.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:24
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Why do I have the feeling, that if you destroyed the base, Cerberus will after you?
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:30
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I suspect that Cerberus may prove antagonistic either way; if not, it'll likely be one of many selectable allies, its strength depending on whether or not it has the base.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:33
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I also thought that if you destroyed the base than that would make the Concil trust Shepard alot more and you'd talk to them about your plans on how to fight the Reapers once they attack like we did in ME1. And if the base was saved we'd talk to TIM like we did in ME2.
It wouls sort of set the stage for who is going to be on your side the most when the game starts.
It wouls sort of set the stage for who is going to be on your side the most when the game starts.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:42
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Regardless of Shepard's choices, Cerberus is going to save the Galaxy, and you all know it. If Shepard have made pro-Human choices over the course of the trilogy, Cerberus will also secure Human dominance.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:46
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After you defeat the Reapers, it will literally rain Reaper tech, and not just the watered down collector stuff either, it will be full strength Reaper tech. Cerberus wont have an advantage in the long run. They may gain just increased support for saving the galaxy.
If you blow up the base, they wont disappear either, they have fared against much worse failures apparently. And this wouldnt even be a failure, they achieved the destruction of a great threat to humanity. So they will likely get the same funding or even increased. Just they will hate you, not so much to kill you, but you will see no help from them.
If you blow up the base, they wont disappear either, they have fared against much worse failures apparently. And this wouldnt even be a failure, they achieved the destruction of a great threat to humanity. So they will likely get the same funding or even increased. Just they will hate you, not so much to kill you, but you will see no help from them.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:48
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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Regardless of Shepard's choices, Cerberus is going to save the Galaxy, and you all know it. If Shepard have made pro-Human choices over the course of the trilogy, Cerberus will also secure Human dominance.
How do you know that?
Did you read the script or something?
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:50
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That is easy, they ressurected Shep. Everything you do will be because of them. When you save the galaxy, it was because of their actions.Fixers0 wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Regardless of Shepard's choices, Cerberus is going to save the Galaxy, and you all know it. If Shepard have made pro-Human choices over the course of the trilogy, Cerberus will also secure Human dominance.
How do you know that?
Did you read the script or something?
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 06:53
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I think either way the council will gain further respect for cerberus and may possibly enable the council and other races be more open to diplomatic talks with them.
I agree with your renegade idea they will be much stronger than before.
Paragon i think the alliance will take over cerberus and take advantage of their resources and technology to help strengthen the alliance (never know could even be a side mission where you go and see the illusive man whether to take control or ask for aid in ME3)
I agree with your renegade idea they will be much stronger than before.
Paragon i think the alliance will take over cerberus and take advantage of their resources and technology to help strengthen the alliance (never know could even be a side mission where you go and see the illusive man whether to take control or ask for aid in ME3)
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:00
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Vaenier wrote...
That is easy, they ressurected Shep. Everything you do will be because of them. When you save the galaxy, it was because of their actions.Fixers0 wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Regardless of Shepard's choices, Cerberus is going to save the Galaxy, and you all know it. If Shepard have made pro-Human choices over the course of the trilogy, Cerberus will also secure Human dominance.
How do you know that?
Did you read the script or something?
Pretty much this.
Plus there needs to be a virus, to kill all the Repares, and big guns to equip on your armada so that it can punch a hole in their formations and keep them busy long enough for you to go in on foot and deploy the virus.
Who's going to cook up this virus, if not Cerberus? And who found the Klendagon BFG?
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:05
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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Vaenier wrote...
That is easy, they ressurected Shep. Everything you do will be because of them. When you save the galaxy, it was because of their actions.Fixers0 wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Regardless of Shepard's choices, Cerberus is going to save the Galaxy, and you all know it. If Shepard have made pro-Human choices over the course of the trilogy, Cerberus will also secure Human dominance.
How do you know that?
Did you read the script or something?
Pretty much this.
Plus there needs to be a virus, to kill all the Repares, and big guns to equip on your armada so that it can punch a hole in their formations and keep them busy long enough for you to go in on foot and deploy the virus.
Who's going to cook up this virus, if not Cerberus? And who found the Klendagon BFG?
That are all just asumptions, there is no way we can guerantee that it will go that way.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:07
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Following fates are so far included on my wishlist:
Put a bullet into TIMmy's head and blow Cerberus up with a big BANG.
Skip the bullet out of mercy and then blow Cerberus up with a big BANG.
Put a bullet in TIMmy's head coup d'etat Cerberus, making me the new leader.
Deal some punches here and there, sabotage here and there and disband Cerberus.
Let Cerberus blow itself up (with several big BANGS obviously).
Let the Council and other Spectres blow Cerberus up (big BANG involved).
Put a bullet into TIMmy's head and blow Cerberus up with a big BANG.
Skip the bullet out of mercy and then blow Cerberus up with a big BANG.
Put a bullet in TIMmy's head coup d'etat Cerberus, making me the new leader.
Deal some punches here and there, sabotage here and there and disband Cerberus.
Let Cerberus blow itself up (with several big BANGS obviously).
Let the Council and other Spectres blow Cerberus up (big BANG involved).
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:28
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I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Cerberus throws itself all-out against the Reapers attack on Earth regardless of what you did in ME2, but the ME2 choice changes what results.
A possible scenario: a group of Reapers are making an attack on a large refugee city. Defensive forces are wiped out, all looks bad, and Cerberus appears between the Reapers and the mass of humans.
If you destroyed the base, Cerberus more or less dies trying to protect Earth, maybe or maybe not making a critical difference before largely being wiped out. Cerberus as an organization is shattered, far more than in Retribution, and can never be the same, but succeeding in their mission to protect Humanity At All Costs.
If you kept the base, however, Cerberus's upgrades allow it to survive, and even do better. Significantly better: many more humans live, many more Reapers die. Cerberus emerges damaged but intact, and well placed politically and influentially to shape future affairs.
As a secondary choice, Shepard may or may not choose to reinforce Cerberus's position, possibly at the cost of another effort elsewhere. A Destiny Ascension choice, but already pre-effected by the ME2 end-choice. The primary effect is to determine Cerberus's post-war positioning, possibly pivoting on the life/death of TIM. If you leave them alone, TIM (and the Civilians?) die: if you destroyed the Base Cerberus is really Kaput, never again anywhere close to as effective or influential as it once was, while if you save TIM Cerberus rebuilds, once again watching and playing its hidden role in the galaxy. Keeping the Base shapes the path of Cerberus influence in the post-war: without the Illusive Man Cerberus's effectiveness is culled, its dynamism lost, but whether this is good or bad is up in the air. Cerberus's next leader may be equally less effective but more extreme. If he lives, however, TIM leads Cerberus in a brilliant fashion, quietly making the way for Humanity's recovery and advantage.
Four effective choices, based half on your ME2 conclusion and half on your ME3 choice.
A possible scenario: a group of Reapers are making an attack on a large refugee city. Defensive forces are wiped out, all looks bad, and Cerberus appears between the Reapers and the mass of humans.
If you destroyed the base, Cerberus more or less dies trying to protect Earth, maybe or maybe not making a critical difference before largely being wiped out. Cerberus as an organization is shattered, far more than in Retribution, and can never be the same, but succeeding in their mission to protect Humanity At All Costs.
If you kept the base, however, Cerberus's upgrades allow it to survive, and even do better. Significantly better: many more humans live, many more Reapers die. Cerberus emerges damaged but intact, and well placed politically and influentially to shape future affairs.
As a secondary choice, Shepard may or may not choose to reinforce Cerberus's position, possibly at the cost of another effort elsewhere. A Destiny Ascension choice, but already pre-effected by the ME2 end-choice. The primary effect is to determine Cerberus's post-war positioning, possibly pivoting on the life/death of TIM. If you leave them alone, TIM (and the Civilians?) die: if you destroyed the Base Cerberus is really Kaput, never again anywhere close to as effective or influential as it once was, while if you save TIM Cerberus rebuilds, once again watching and playing its hidden role in the galaxy. Keeping the Base shapes the path of Cerberus influence in the post-war: without the Illusive Man Cerberus's effectiveness is culled, its dynamism lost, but whether this is good or bad is up in the air. Cerberus's next leader may be equally less effective but more extreme. If he lives, however, TIM leads Cerberus in a brilliant fashion, quietly making the way for Humanity's recovery and advantage.
Four effective choices, based half on your ME2 conclusion and half on your ME3 choice.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:36
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Doesn't Jacob say something to that effect if you talk to him after destroying the base?Captain Proton wrote...
Why do I have the feeling, that if you destroyed the base, Cerberus will after you?
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:36
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Shepard needs to upsurp TIM and put Miranda in charge of Cerberus. Another resource for the good fight.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:36
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Of course, not.Fixers0 wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Pretty much this.Vaenier wrote...
That is easy, they ressurected Shep. Everything you do will be because of them. When you save the galaxy, it was because of their actions.Fixers0 wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Regardless of Shepard's choices, Cerberus is going to save the Galaxy, and you all know it. If Shepard have made pro-Human choices over the course of the trilogy, Cerberus will also secure Human dominance.
How do you know that?
Did you read the script or something?
Plus there needs to be a virus, to kill all the Repares, and big guns to equip on your armada so that it can punch a hole in their formations and keep them busy long enough for you to go in on foot and deploy the virus.
Who's going to cook up this virus, if not Cerberus? And who found the Klendagon BFG?
That are all just asumptions, there is no way we can guerantee that it will go that way.
But you heard it here first!
Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 19 décembre 2010 - 07:39 .
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:51
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I don't think Cerberus will break apart due to blowing up the base. Cerberus is a secretive op, I doubt most of their agents have any idea about the base--much less their supporters. Sure, they won't be a superpower, but they will have other breakthroughs. My shep has given them Prothean and geth data. Plus, the Illusive Man doesn't exactly post his financial records or organizational strategy. It would be hard to tell if the company is flourishing or going bottom-up unless you are TIM.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 07:57
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I got the feeling that Cerberus will play a very small part in ME3. The "mysterious badboys" style got old rather quick so now it's time to try something new.
Modifié par lovgreno, 19 décembre 2010 - 07:57 .
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 08:00
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I don't even think anything will happen to Cerberus in ME3. They could use them for the next phase of the series.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 08:03
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AdmiralCheez wrote...
A reasonable theory, but I can't help but ponder whether or not TIM's going to go all psycho and do something awful. Just because he has it in him, you know?
I disagree, I dont think TIM will go psycho he knows what at stake for the galaxy. Well its a video game so he could go crazy but because its a game and it would make the game have more depth.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 08:04
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If you preserved the Collector's base, you aquire Cerberus as an ally and they will help you against the Reapers. If you destroyed the Collector's base, Cerberus will become your enemy.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 08:05
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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Of course, not.Fixers0 wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Pretty much this.Vaenier wrote...
That is easy, they ressurected Shep. Everything you do will be because of them. When you save the galaxy, it was because of their actions.Fixers0 wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Regardless of Shepard's choices, Cerberus is going to save the Galaxy, and you all know it. If Shepard have made pro-Human choices over the course of the trilogy, Cerberus will also secure Human dominance.
How do you know that?
Did you read the script or something?
Plus there needs to be a virus, to kill all the Repares, and big guns to equip on your armada so that it can punch a hole in their formations and keep them busy long enough for you to go in on foot and deploy the virus.
Who's going to cook up this virus, if not Cerberus? And who found the Klendagon BFG?
If it will happen, an i doubt Cerberus will be just as central in ME3 as the were in ME2
That are all just asumptions, there is no way we can guerantee that it will go that way.
But you heard it here first!
