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Am I the only one that thinks Morrigan's "God Child" isn't necessarily evil


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Kappa Neko wrote...

I love how people are so quick to slap the evil label on everything....
What's "evil" supposed to mean anyway? Isn't that a religious term used to agitate people against everybody who doesn't fit into the picture? Oh wait.......now THAT would actually make Morrigan and her baby evil, yes ;D
Anyway, to me evil doesn't exist. Not even in video games. And I don't believe Morrigan is supposed to be evil. I've got to admit, though, that I think BW didn't write her all that well. Something's off about her personality. I can't quite pinpoint it. Morrigan reminds me a lot of ME's Jack. Only that Jack's personality makes perfect sense.
To me the short glimpses we get of Morrigan's feelings come across wrong. Being somehow very touched to be given a gift? Really?? Why? She hides her feelings so well otherwise. I don't buy it, her being taken aback by something as trivial as a small gift. There were many more moments I thought were out of character.
Unless everything she does is an act. That's what I found most interesting about her. Always wondering if I'm just being played by her. I guess that's what Morrigan is all about. I've been wondering if BW aimed at making us trust her, falling for her act just as everybody else in the game is tricked by her. I loved how talking to her made you think that maybe there's a misunderstood hero beneath all that mock indifference towards the world, only to have her suggest the DR at the end. Only we never got to find out what she's planning exactly. Disappointed me a great deal.
So yes, I believe she' very manipulative and craves power. But even that doesn't make her evil.
Morrigan comes across quite cruel at times. But at least that part of her personality makes perfect sense. This survival of the fittest philosophy is the reason she manages to survive (true for Jack as well). She's been hunted all her life. She was raised by Flemeth! Given that background she's surprisingly friendly towards the Warden. Then again maybe she only seems that way because she wants something.
My first impression of the conversation about the DR was: ohhh no, I'm not letting myself be tricked! The way this scene is done strongly suggests that Morrigan played you the whole time. She only befriended you to get what she wanted. Initially. But I also believe that we're supposed to see that she does care, too, in her own way. She thinks you both benefit from the deal.
I would agree with LobselVith8: she's practical. She's not cruel on purpose. Her world view is harsh. She hates people who let themselves be victimized, yes. But she does have a point there. Her behaviour violates my moral code. Yet I find myself liking her a great deal because there are actually quite a few things I agree with her about.
Most people ARE like cattle. Morrigan chose not to be a part of an oppressive society, obediently doing what other people tell her to do. She's the character that questions everything. I like that a lot about her. Like her reminding the Warden that all we know about mages is what the Chantry preaches.
Morrigan wants to bring about a new world. And judging by her reluctance to explain what exactly that means, it wouldn't be a pleasant change. She knows people would resist it because people are stupid and afraid of change. But Morrigan believes this change will be for the good of the people. They just need to be forced into it.
Of course, that new world order would benefit her most of all. Morrigan loves power. But I guess she would say she's being practical there again. She'll free the world and in return will be rewarded for her accomplishment. Only fair, isn't it? ;0)
So no, I don't believe her god child is evil. But I think it's dangerous. Because a) we don't know if Morrigan actually knows what the heck she's doing there and B) we don't know what a very powerful Morrigan will be like. There's great potential for corruption in her IMO.


Definition of Evil:
Evil is the intention of causing harm or destruction, specifically from the perception of deliberately violating some moral code without guilt, without torment, without consequences.

Like i've been saying she isn't technically evil shes just cruel.

Edit: Also saying that there's not good and evil in video games has to be the stupidist thing ive ever heard. Just about every story from the beginning of time has been about the story of good vs. evil.

Modifié par The Water God, 31 janvier 2011 - 05:31 .


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errant_knight

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I think that the writers like plot twists, good writers that they are, and it's quite possible that both the untainted old gods and the 'god baby' will turn out to be the key something very good, perhaps the key to destroying the darkspawn for good.

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She must have a different quarrel with the mages then them being caged, she asks that Jowen and Sten be shown mercy when they're caged, and they were caged willingly.

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The Water God wrote...

Edit: Also saying that there's not good and evil in video games has to be the stupidist thing ive ever heard. Just about every story from the beginning of time has been about the story of good vs. evil.


Well, yes, some games are going the strict black and white path, but  any game with a least some degree of depth to the story does not paint the villains as just purely evil. At least the games that come to my mind provide an explanation for their motivations and often this explanation is not  simply "I want to destroy the world for no reason." 
To me there is a difference between pianting characters as having selfish "bad" intentions and characters who are inhumanly cruel just for fun. Wanting power is not evil to me. Having gone insane is not evil.
Is Loghain evil? No. Is Flemeth evil? Can't say.  The demons in the game are probably evil, yes.