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This is the official sister-thread to the Fan Fiction Synopsis Listing! (FFSL for short)

What this thread is for:
While the Fan Fiction Synopsis Listing thread is used for submitting/listing fan created fiction, this thread is for (as the title suggests) discussing Mass Effect fan fiction. Here, readers can give feedback about some of the works they've read, openly discuss them among other readers and/or just give kudos to the authors and acknowledge their hard work.

A few of things to keep in mind:
- This is a 'spoilers allowed' forum, whether talking about the Mass Effect games or otherwise. If you have only read a portion of a story, be warned! There are no spoiler restrictions here! Additionally, please keep fan fiction discussion about  Mass Effect related works in order to remain on topic.

- While this thread mainly focuses on the fan fictions listed in the Synopsis Listing thread, there's nothing saying you can't point out a Mass Effect fan fiction that hasn't been listed. If you do decide to recommend/compare/reference any fan fiction that is not listed, it would be a great help to other readers if you included a clickable link to the story you are bringing up so that they may go and read it for themselves. If you deem it necessary, a brief warning about mature content might also be in order.

- If you really enjoyed a particular work (no matter the size or style), say so! Even if you've already said something on the site where the story is hosted, it doesn't hurt to say it here as well. There may be readers who decide check out a story based on the sort of feedback that gets posted in this thread.

- Let's keep the energy positive! If you have issues with a particular story, please be aware that the authors are free to write however they see fit. That said, constructive criticism is always an important part of the creative process, and is still considered feedback. Other than that, the floor is open (within reason, of course)! Excited about an upcoming chapter? Let others know! Got questions for the author? As long as they are a member of the Mass Effect forums, ask away! (A PM to the author could work as well if they miss your question.)

- Absolutely no bashing of any fan created characters, settings, plots or works on a whole. Quite simply, there is no need for it in any form and it just makes the basher look like a fool. Even worse, it could damage an author's creativity. As stated before, constructive criticism is a helpful piece of the creative process, but only if it's on a professional level.

- This is not a superiority thread! We encourage readers to post how much they liked a particular fan fiction, but please remember that we'd like to keep this thread for discussion and not for everybody's top five. Each work has equal potential to be someone's favorite and we'd rather that everyone decided that for themselves.

- And finally, authors! Want to discuss potential plots? Need help with writer's block? Not sure how to bring out the proper feel of a character and want some pointers? Post away! Just remember, everyone can see your musings, so if you have a secret plot development, this may not be the best place to talk about it!

A note to the authors:
If you would like to announce releases of new chapters or Mass Effect fan fictions, feel free to do so. Just remember that submitting a story to be included in the Synopsis Listing still needs to be done in the usual format in the Fan Fiction Synopsis Listing thread. If you need to update the details of your story such as word count, rating change or such, you will need to do it there as well. We appreciate J4N3_M3's hard work on the list, but I can't ask that they keep an eye on this thread in addition to that one.


The goal of this thread is to become a hub of discussion that both authors and readers regularly visit. There's some great fan fiction work out there, so we're hoping to expose more readers to more of these works of art!

Enjoy, and pleasant reading.

Helpful Writing Tips and Guides:
For those thinking about breaking into the fanfiction scene but aren't sure about their writing technique, there are a few ways to look into this. One way is to ask here. There are a lot of helpful folks that frequent this thread, and are more than willing to lend a helping hand (or pen). The other way is to self-study and use this wonderful repository of information called the internet. Folks here often supply very useful links regarding writing, being a beta reader and whatnot. When we find them, we list them here.

The obvious one:

The Free Dictionary - A great, free dictionary site for the English language. Has everything you'd expect from a dictionary site, includes a thesaurus on your searched word on the same page and even breaks the word down into its multiple uses if applicable.

User supplied links:

On critiquing - An article by writer Patricia Wrede that outlines better ways to critique. Good for would-be beta readers, or for understanding what you are looking for in a beta reader.  (Thanks to jillyfae)

The Craft of Writing - A collection of advice, tips and guides from the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America. (Thanks to Sialater)

Battlechantress' Fanfic Writer Resources Blog and The Sequel - A collection of helpful links and a few example stories to make points about science fiction stories and writing fanfics. (Thanks to J4N3_M3, and of course, battlechantress)

More on the way! (I'll probably break the links section down further once we get more in here)

Modifié par Severyx, 22 décembre 2010 - 07:21 .


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Good idea, Severyx!



I'd also like to request that we not bash others' works and keep all critique to a level resembling professionalism, if we're going to do that.



Otherwise, I think we can also discuss plots we're stuck on, writers' block solutions, and the mechanics of getting a character's "voice" correct.

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Great idea, there are several threads that "sort of" discuss fan fiction but none are properly formatted. (Ex: My failed thread)



For anyone looking to start up their own fiction, you should read books! See how they play with dialogue, and read some "how to write fiction" guides online. For ME universe specific examples I reccomend:

- JaerWolfe for playful banter mixed with some serious feelings
www.fanfiction.net/u/2303496/JaerWolfe

- ElectricZ for getting characters down properly like their in game persons.
www.fanfiction.net/u/2289288/ElectricZ

- Kane Lam for getting the reader to REALLY get sad.
www.fanfiction.net/u/2260163/Kane_Lam

Modifié par pacer90, 20 décembre 2010 - 02:54 .


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I would also like to add, that everyone refrains from character bashing of any sort!

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Is it okay that I say I'm puttting up a Fanific on Fanfiction.net? I'll put it up within 2 hours and then

i'll post a link.

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Thanks to Sialater for pointing out some good discussion ideas for authors!

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There is a similar thread to this in the DA forums. It's what they discuss there. ;)

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Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Is it okay that I say I'm puttting up a Fanific on Fanfiction.net? I'll put it up within 2 hours and then
i'll post a link.


If you just want to make people aware of its existence, then you should probably post that and its details in the Fan Fiction Synopsis Listing thread (link is in the OP). If the fanfic is not yours and you want to talk about it and it's not listed on the aforementioned list, then by all means, go for it. :D

Alternatively, if the fanfic is yours and you simply want to announce it to the reading masses, go right on ahead. Just make sure you also input the details on the Fan Fiction Synopsis  Listing (FFSL from here on out) so that we can get it properly listed!

Modifié par Severyx, 20 décembre 2010 - 03:19 .


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I don't know if this thread will stick around (bans on bashing kind of limits internet forum contribution LOL) but that Mock Effect 2 series by Clint Johnston is a work of absolute genius...

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LOL, I see what you did there.

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Severyx wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Is it okay that I say I'm puttting up a Fanific on Fanfiction.net? I'll put it up within 2 hours and then
i'll post a link.


If you just want to make people aware of its existence, then you should probably post that and its details in the Fan Fiction Synopsis Listing thread (link is in the OP). If the fanfic is not yours and you want to talk about it and it's not listed on the aforementioned list, then by all means, go for it. :D

Alternatively, if the fanfic is yours and you simply want to announce it to the reading masses, go right on ahead. Just make sure you also input the details on the Fan Fiction Synopsis  Listing (FFSL from here on out) so that we can get it properly listed!



Okay, I'll do that!

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Really been wanting to write one for a long time, just can't muster up anything I feel is good.

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Uh... it's fanfiction. Who cares if it's good? It's for practice. To improve your craft.

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Most artists are very critical about their own work. It's tough to get up to the point of it finally being 'okay enough'. The best way to do is to simply write and go. Get a few selected beta readers if you're worried. Try some short stories, too. Once you find a writing style that works for you, just keep at it. :D

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Thanks I think I'll try the beta readers thing, and your definitely right I am very critical of my own work. :)

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Everyone here is, I think you'll find.



There are days when I think I suck. Badly.

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What is this failure? I do not understand the concept...





JK. Go for it.

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writers block sucks! i hate it! just saying. Although I seem to finally be getting over it. I've been writing so much lately, just not what I was actually supposed to write. xD DAMMIT! Well, not entirely true...chapter 9 is finally making progress. detail work here and there and then moving on to actually get Joker somewhere further down the plotline lol.

I agree on the betas. I'd be so lost if I couldn't bounce my ideas off them. Or get my chapters taken apart piece by piece xD 

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This is the first time I've ever felt compelled to write any sort of fanfiction. I'm certainly no writer by trade, so getting started is a little difficult for me. I got up in the middle of the night last night and wrote for nearly two hours but barely got through half the scene that I had in mind. I kept getting caught up on small details, and weaving dialogue, internal monologue, and actions is still awkward.



I'm curious, though. My familiarity with the game isn't very high, since I've only played through once (granted I wrapped up ME2 just last week). How many playthroughs did you do before beginning your stories? If you're unsure about a certain plot point, do you make up your own details, look it up in the wiki, play to that point again, or something else entirely?

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TheMarshal wrote...

This is the first time I've ever felt compelled to write any sort of fanfiction. I'm certainly no writer by trade, so getting started is a little difficult for me. I got up in the middle of the night last night and wrote for nearly two hours but barely got through half the scene that I had in mind. I kept getting caught up on small details, and weaving dialogue, internal monologue, and actions is still awkward.

I'm curious, though. My familiarity with the game isn't very high, since I've only played through once (granted I wrapped up ME2 just last week). How many playthroughs did you do before beginning your stories? If you're unsure about a certain plot point, do you make up your own details, look it up in the wiki, play to that point again, or something else entirely?


I suppose it all depends on the person in question. Some might do one or two before launching into a fanfiction, while others might take a lot longer to flesh out thier characters before diving into thier stories.

I was actually planning the fanficiton I'm working on now before I even started my femShep's original ME1 playthrough. Most of the ideas came from disscussions from the femShep fan thread, as most of those ladies over there (and few guys like myself) are very talented in creating fan media, like videos, art or fanfiction.

When you say plot point, do you mean like something small or something that's going to affect the story as a whole? Again, I suppose it depends on the fan in question.

I like to bounce my ideas off of my beta, as I'm not confident enough on my own to properly input an interesting plot point without having confirmation that it flows correctly within the story. Other times, I might look at the wiki for some background information or a quick look at the lore to see if I'm not fudging canon or something like that.

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Severyx wrote...



Most artists are very critical about their own work. It's tough to get up to the point of it finally being 'okay enough'. The best way to do is to simply write and go. Get a few selected beta readers if you're worried. Try some short stories, too. Once you find a writing style that works for you, just keep at it. :D




Oh do I know that feeling. I have a complete scenario envisioned in rather vivid detail but much attempts this past week to translate thoughts to paper computer screen have been an exercise in mind numbing frustration. I have always been particularly vicious to my own work and mercilessly rip it apart when I believe a certain scene requires a more deft touch (reference intended.) I suppose I have to kick myself into accepting that a scene involving a punch for example, can be direct and not required a whole relay of exercises, so to speak.

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Second chapter of my Fan Fic "Who We Are" is up. Any tips on writing sad Liara would be greatly appreciated.

Ch 1 is in my sig, Ch 2 here: www.fanfiction.net/s/6512616/2/Who_We_Are

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TheMarshal wrote...

This is the first time I've ever felt compelled to write any sort of fanfiction. I'm certainly no writer by trade, so getting started is a little difficult for me. I got up in the middle of the night last night and wrote for nearly two hours but barely got through half the scene that I had in mind. I kept getting caught up on small details, and weaving dialogue, internal monologue, and actions is still awkward.

I'm curious, though. My familiarity with the game isn't very high, since I've only played through once (granted I wrapped up ME2 just last week). How many playthroughs did you do before beginning your stories? If you're unsure about a certain plot point, do you make up your own details, look it up in the wiki, play to that point again, or something else entirely?


I've played through ME1 about four full times and ME2 about three and am currently working on a fourth. Beyond that, I dove into the codex like crazy. I absorbed all the information I could, as I simply loved the Mass Effect universe. After that, I started writing my first original story (as canon as possible), using even the smallest codex details to give depth and width to my original content, and to flesh out things easily overlooked in familiar areas such as planets Shepard visits in game.

As far as things I'm unsure about, I generally consult the wiki. Almost all (not 100%) of the information in the wiki is game and book derived, and if I'm unsure about something, it's most likely a small detail I must have missed not worth playing the game over for. If it is something that the game or books point out but does not into any depth, then there is technically no canon information and is free to be elaborated upon. While it's not technically 'official' canon, there's nothing saying it can't be the way you imagine it is because there are no real details about it.

For example. In my fic, the main character visits the Edroki Plaza on the Kithoi ward on the Citadel. While the Kithoi ward and the Edroki Plaza are actual places (as pointed out in game), there are absolutely no official details about what either are like. I've looked. A lot. With that in mind, I took the time to flesh such places out as I imagined them according to how it might seem from other design schemes. It's not outrageous, but it's not cookie cutter either. This makes it believeable, and that matters a lot to me in stories. The aim was to create a place no one had been to before, but make it familair enough so that readers who had visited the wards in the games could still imagine looking up and seeing the rest of the Citadel. This is just my take on it, though.

If you are unsure about how your story is turning out, see if you can call upon a fellow Mass Effect fan as a beta reader, even if just to have a second set of eyes looking out for grammar inconsistancies and such. A good beta reader will alert you to spelling and grammatical issues and point out things inconsistent with established canon if you ask for it. Additionally they should be able to point out glaring plot holes or other such story based problems. They should NOT, however, question your story, as that is yours to write. I will admit, here and now, that I don't have beta readers. It's not that I don't like them or what have you, It's just that I've been enjoying the way my story has come out despite not having any. This could be conisdered a dangerous practice, as having an extra set of eyes on the work tends to help weed out mistakes and inconsistancies. The thing is, I consider myself elitist. I actually had to re-write an established chapter because something canon changed when the LotSB DLC came out, and I reread each chapter specifically with the intent of making changes and finding errors.

Now if you're still awake after that wall o' text, I hope that helped answer some of your questions!

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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Severyx wrote...

Most artists are very critical about their own work. It's tough to get up to the point of it finally being 'okay enough'. The best way to do is to simply write and go. Get a few selected beta readers if you're worried. Try some short stories, too. Once you find a writing style that works for you, just keep at it. :D


Oh do I know that feeling. I have a complete scenario envisioned in rather vivid detail but much attempts this past week to translate thoughts to paper computer screen have been an exercise in mind numbing frustration. I have always been particularly vicious to my own work and mercilessly rip it apart when I believe a certain scene requires a more deft touch (reference intended.) I suppose I have to kick myself into accepting that a scene involving a punch for example, can be direct and not required a whole relay of exercises, so to speak.


I'm the same exact way with drawn art. I'd love to draw, but I'm so overly critical of it that I can't get through the most basic starters even though I have the most epic and detailed images in my mind. I just can't transfer from my brain to paper OR computer. Actually, I pretty much suck at drawing to begin with, but my critical nature prevents me from getting any sort of practice in in order to get better at it.

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TheMarshal wrote...

This is the first time I've ever felt compelled to write any sort of fanfiction. I'm certainly no writer by trade, so getting started is a little difficult for me. I got up in the middle of the night last night and wrote for nearly two hours but barely got through half the scene that I had in mind. I kept getting caught up on small details, and weaving dialogue, internal monologue, and actions is still awkward.

I'm curious, though. My familiarity with the game isn't very high, since I've only played through once (granted I wrapped up ME2 just last week). How many playthroughs did you do before beginning your stories? If you're unsure about a certain plot point, do you make up your own details, look it up in the wiki, play to that point again, or something else entirely?


As Severyx suggested, I wouldn't mind being a beta reader for you. I'm rather a stickler for canon, have a good general knowledge of the Mass Effect universe and canon and like to think I'm firm but fair.

The only thing I'd ask is that you wait until I'm finished my own story before hand, because I want to concentrate on that at the moment. I've only got one chapter and an epilogue to go and I need to be free of distractions during this crucial moment. There are so many pieces to tie up and I have to do it juuuuuust right for the story to work to my satisfaction. But once that's done, which all going well with be early to mid January, the I can give your story a look.

Beyond that, just consult the wiki more than anything. The info is pretty good and accurate there for the most part, unlike some wikis (even the devs use it apparently).