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#251
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So could we get a straight word of god on this issue, please?

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Bethany's cone spell has a lot of width in that shot with the Spiders. Is it an upgrade?

If so, I'd like it if we could use abilities in their original forms, as well. The upgrades could bring up issues of friendly fire that could be avoided with a weaker version of a particlar move.

A mage, for example, should be able to tone down the power of a spell from an enhanced version if it would endanger their companions.


Hm... maybe that's one reason they took out FF except on Nightmare. If all of your upgraded spells end up with giant radii, it might make spell placement more difficult.

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Well, no Mage for me on first playthrough at least

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Dummkopf wrote...

Was it actually confirmed that one of them will be a permanent companion?


No, people are just assuming that due to screenshots. I think they're there as placeholders for not yet revealed companions.

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Eclipse_9990 wrote...

 Carver could very well be the favorite sibling here, who knows?


Carver does not have (extremely visible) breasts.  Therefore, he will never be the favorite sibling.

For goodness sakes, Bethany's scarf is just a giant, red arrow pointing down.

Also, Carver looks kinda...ugly.  While Bethany looks like Natalie Portman.  So if you take her, you can put her through the meat-grinder and pretend she's Princess Amadala.  Stupid Star Wars prequels...

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Addai67 wrote...

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I think that your post is suggesting that my discontent with this information is, in part, my own damn fault. No one forces me to come to the forums. No one makes me read the spoiler laden articles. I choose to do these things when apparently there are aspects of the game that I'd be much happier never knowing about.

I think that's fair.

You would eventually hear about it though anyway, wouldn't you?  I'm sure that a lot of people who see Bethany in the promos (with a mage brother) just assume she'll be a party member, so when she isn't, people would go to the internet and find out why.

Maybe they won't care.  Guess we'll see.


I'd hear about it after I played, yes, but I believe that's what Luke was referring to when he talking about the first play experience.

After all, part of the problem is that I'm learning about this in isolation. There's nothing to distract me from the knowledge.

It's like learning that a restaurant I'm going to serves garlic breadsticks when I dislike garlic. If I were actually sitting at the restaurant, I could shrug and continue talking to my date, and in a few minutes I'd be digging into a plate of shrimp diablo and the breadsticks would be meaningless.

If I were playing the game, my sibling would die, but I'd be focused on the narrative opening up before me and my PC's adventures in Kirkwall. It would be one part of a much larger whole and I'd easily be able to dismiss it as unimportant.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 20 décembre 2010 - 10:19 .


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DarthCaine wrote...

Well, no Mage for me on first playthrough at least


Why not? Why are people saying that .... I'm missing something :(

Modifié par Ms. Lovey Dovey, 20 décembre 2010 - 10:18 .


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Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Well, no Mage for me on first playthrough at least


Why not? Why are people saying that .... I'm missing something :(


They are fools for not wanting Carver.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Dummkopf wrote...

Was it actually confirmed that one of them will be a permanent companion?


No, people are just assuming that due to screenshots. I think they're there as placeholders for not yet revealed companions.


Those are pretty big assumptions.

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Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Well, no Mage for me on first playthrough at least


Why not? Why are people saying that .... I'm missing something :(


Because of something one of the devs said earlier:

Seb Hanlon wrote...

The article is correct. You'll get Bethany if Hawke is a rogue or warrior (regardless of gender), and Carver if Hawke is a mage.


Modifié par filaminstrel, 20 décembre 2010 - 10:20 .


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What! That's stupid!.....Well that's okay. I don't want my Hawke to be upstaged in looks anyway depending on how well the Character Creator is.



Carver seems like a deep guy, so he's cool.

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Hrm, to be honest I don't like how the survival is linked to class. I don't care about having to choose between them, I just would've rather had it been a decision not if I was mage, or other. As I was considering warrior for my play, I wanted to experience Carver, but I can't.



Now does this mean I am not gonna get the game? No. Does this mean I am thinking the 'agents of bioware' are out to screw us? No. Am I gonna spread hate or dissent? No.



I am still crazy excited to play Dragon Age II and can't wait to get my hands on it. I think most of the changes are wonderful. This is just one feedback on one part, and that is all it is personal preference. In future I hope decision won't be linked to character build, but I can completely understand why it was done.



The reason I explain further about this, is sometimes I feel that those that disagree on the forums (If they don't elaborate) are kinda thrown in with the 'extremist' groups

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Interesting....

Modifié par Ms. Lovey Dovey, 20 décembre 2010 - 10:24 .


#264
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TheCreeper wrote...

So could we get a straight word of god on this issue, please?


Here's a link to the post on page three of this thread, confirming that Carver will live for mages, while Bethany will survive for rogues and warriors:
http://social.biowar...14395/3#5515076

I'm guessing that there is a story related reason that only one mage Hawke can survive leaving Lothering.  I'll hold off judgement, but I feel suddenly very protective of Carver...and guilty that I'm already thinking about sacrificing Bethany. 

Wow, did I hate Virmire.  I hope the story reason is worth it.

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Nnnuuuuu, I'm killing Carver :crying:

But... but I'll roll mage in my 2nd playthrough, lil bro.
The second playthrough will be OUR playthrough, Carvy!

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Well, no Mage for me on first playthrough at least


Why not? Why are people saying that .... I'm missing something :(


They are fools for not wanting Carver.


^^This. I'd much rather have the power of Derp on my side any ways.

On an aside, its also nice to see people who were using the whole "limiting choice is for the story" thing to dismiss other player's concerns, have it come back and bite them in the arseImage IPB

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Well, no Mage for me on first playthrough at least


Why not? Why are people saying that .... I'm missing something :(


They are fools for not wanting Carver.

Bethany = :)
Carver = <_<

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RyuAzai wrote...

The reason I explain further about this, is sometimes I feel that those that disagree on the forums (If they don't elaborate) are kinda thrown in with the 'extremist' groups


I suppose I should add the caveat that even though I dislike this choice, it's a minor one and I don't think that BioWare is out to destroy PC gaming or that David Gaider personally hates me and wants me to suffer.

Drasanil wrote...

On an aside, its also nice to see people who were using the whole "limiting choice is for the story" thing to dismiss other player's concerns, have it come back and bite them in the arseImage IPB


How wonderfully petty of you.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 20 décembre 2010 - 10:30 .


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Midey77 wrote...

Bethany = :)
Carver = <_<


Wrong.

Bethany = :pinched:

Carver = :wub:

Modifié par Ms. Lovey Dovey, 20 décembre 2010 - 10:28 .


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TeenZombie wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

So could we get a straight word of god on this issue, please?


Here's a link to the post on page three of this thread, confirming that Carver will live for mages, while Bethany will survive for rogues and warriors:
http://social.biowar...14395/3#5515076

I'm guessing that there is a story related reason that only one mage Hawke can survive leaving Lothering.  I'll hold off judgement, but I feel suddenly very protective of Carver...and guilty that I'm already thinking about sacrificing Bethany. 

Wow, did I hate Virmire.  I hope the story reason is worth it.


Well he doesn't technically confirm or deny either of them living or dying, he only says you get one or the other.

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Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Midey77 wrote...

Bethany = :)
Carver = <_<


Wrong.

Bethany = :pinched:

Carver = :wub:

Really?:huh:

#272
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Drasanil wrote...

On an aside, its also nice to see people who were using the whole "limiting choice is for the story" thing to dismiss other player's concerns, have it come back and bite them in the arseImage IPB

Ah, the silver lining.

I just tend to think warriors are useless and would park them in camp unless I really liked them.  Maybe they won't be as useless this time around.

Hoping the other mages are hot rocks.  If it's Anders and Wynne, I'm gonna... I don't know what I'm gonna do, but it won't be pretty.  Image IPB

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Dummkopf wrote...

Was it actually confirmed that one of them will be a permanent companion?


No, people are just assuming that due to screenshots. I think they're there as placeholders for not yet revealed companions.

I'm starting to wonder at that myself. The devs here are being kinda shifty and playing this whole thing down,  maybe because they know neither Carver or Bethany sticks around very long in the party, at least not long after the prologue? The game spans 10 years after all, so no matter which sibling you keep initially, he/she could soon be gone doing their own thing (or just dying) to make way for the REAL companions.

If not... well, I hope I end up liking Carver when I finally meet him. :)

Although I have reconsidered being a mage my first playthrough... just so my Hawke can have a sister (because I prefer my Hawke to have her sister around and not her brother, since I only have brothers in real life). The only thing now that would really turn me off from being a mage is if we find out at some point that Fenris is only an LI for non-mages. ;)

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@MIdey77 As real as Bethany's breasts, mi boy.

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Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

@MIdey77 As real as Bethany's breasts, mi boy.

So you are lying!