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[klossen4]

Tetragnatha_Sp wrote...

No.... It's too late and that's why It's out of the question.She wasn't Bi in ME2 and she wan't in ME3 either.
Shepard is NOT Bi and Tali,Ashley,Kaidan,Thane Krios,Mordin,Miranda either.
Thread can be closed.

so female shephard who is with liara is not bi?

[AdmiralCheez]

@Tetragnatha_Sp: Shep's orientation is determined by the player. And the point I'M trying to make is that Bioware needs to stop chickening out over non-hetero pairings.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 20 décembre 2010 - 07:37 .

[Gemini1179]

It would have been nice. I guess the reality of it is that Tali couldn't have children with a MaleShep even if she wanted, so that argument doesn't really hold up. It makes sense for her to be attracted to Shepard no matter the gender based on their friendship alone IMO. Would have also made sense with Jack, but they didn't do that either.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Tetragnatha_Sp wrote...

No.... It's too late and that's why It's out of the question.She wasn't Bi in ME2 and she wan't in ME3 either.
Shepard is NOT Bi and Tali,Ashley,Kaidan,Thane Krios,Mordin,Miranda either.
Thread can be closed.

These kind of posts amuse me endlessly.

The absence of something does not disprove its existence.  Jack can only be romanced by dudes but she still mentions her "experience" with a couple.  There are all kinds of circumstances that dictate who someone will or won't romance, and just because Tali can't be romanced by a female in ME2 does not mean she's 100% straight and set in stone.

I have no interest in Tali, but that's just how it is.  Also, Shepard can be whatever you want.

[GodWood]

Gemini1179 wrote...
It would have been nice. I guess the reality of it is that Tali couldn't have children with a MaleShep even if she wanted, so that argument doesn't really hold up. It makes sense for her to be attracted to Shepard no matter the gender based on their friendship alone IMO.

Umm, why?
Just because shes of a different species doesn't mean her sexual orientation doesn't take priority.

[JamieCOTC]

GodWood wrote...

klossen4 wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Mono-gendered = one Gender.
One Gender = Has one gender
Their one gender is female.
All asari are female.

It does count.

not according to bioware even though it says  all female race in codex and they even look female

I believe it was Casey Hudson who said otherwise.
The guy who called Tali Liara and said the asari are not female, they are asexual.
Forgive me if I I trust the game's lore over him.

Asari are an all female race. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, Hudson most likely just got mixed up. Not hard to do w/ a massive universe sized lore.

[AlexMBrennan]

Just because shes of a different species doesn't mean her sexual orientation doesn't take priority.

Except of course that Tali is a different species. I think it is pointless to argue if a character is homosexual/bisexual/heterosexual given that these terms are only applied to individuals of the same species.

It just seems odd that Shepard's gender should have such an effect on Tali's attraction to Shepard given that they are a different species. Try replacing the human and quarian with different animals to see how ridiculous the situation gets.

Edit: Re asari reproduction: The gender (social) of the asari is irrelevant, their sex (biological) matters. Unfortunately, the word "sex" is inherently bad and hence can't be featured in the codex... I wonder what the codex entries for Sussex/Middlesex/Essex/Wessex will be like.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 20 décembre 2010 - 08:03 .

[jlb524]

GodWood wrote...

Femsheps can have a lesbian romance with:
Liara
Shaira
Shiala (hinted)
Kelly
and Samara (sort of)

I personally think thats more than enough.

Well, I personally don't, though I personally feel there are more than enough straight romances and no more should be included in ME3....bring on more s/s romances instead.

[AlexXIV]

Tetragnatha_Sp wrote...

No.... It's too late and that's why It's out of the question.She wasn't Bi in ME2 and she wan't in ME3 either.
Shepard is NOT Bi and Tali,Ashley,Kaidan,Thane Krios,Mordin,Miranda either.
Thread can be closed.

Wonder why femShep would romance Liara if she wasn't Bi. Asari or not she clearly looks female.

I would keep Tali straight though, two people who trust and care for each other doesn't always need to involve sex.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 20 décembre 2010 - 08:04 .

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Femsheps can have a lesbian romance with:
Liara
Shaira
Shiala (hinted)
Kelly
and Samara (sort of)

I personally think thats more than enough.

Well, I personally don't, though I personally feel there are more than enough straight romances and no more should be included in ME3....bring on more s/s romances instead.

That's not enough at all, since Liara is the only one can you have a REAL romance. No just a one night stand, or whatever you might call Kelly's romance. And most of those are asari.

My suggestion is to make either Jack or Tali an option in ME3.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 20 décembre 2010 - 08:04 .

[Tetragnatha_Sp]

klossen4 wrote...
so female shephard who is with liara is not bi?

Asari have one gender...Only.Bioware would't let you romance her if Asari had "male" gender also.Tell me which species in ME universe have 1 gender only also?

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
I have no interest in Tali, but that's just how it is.  Also, Shepard can be whatever Bioware wants.

Fixed.

Shepard is not bi and it's Bioware's official decision..Do you really think that Bioware will chage it in ME3? You are just like Don Quixote  fighting with windmills right now and you know that...

But well,it's your call.

[GodWood]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Just because shes of a different species doesn't mean her sexual orientation doesn't take priority.

Except of course that Tali is a different species. I think it is pointless to argue if a character is homosexual/bisexual/heterosexual given that these terms are only applied to individuals of the same species.
It just seems odd that Shepard's gender should have such an effect on Tali's attraction to Shepard given that they are a different species. Try replacing the human and quarian with different animals to see how ridiculous the situation gets.

When one species looks so very similar to the other sexual orientation is going to take priority.
A heterosexual male or a lesbian female is not going to be sexually attracted to Thane.
Why? Because he looks male.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

TMA LIVE wrote...
or whatever you might call Kelly's romance.

The best damn romance in the game!

And believe me... It's not a one night stand... I don't even know how many times she's been up in my Shep's cabin.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Tetragnatha_Sp wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
I have no interest in Tali, but that's just how it is.  Also, Shepard can be whatever Bioware wants.

Fixed.
Shepard is not bi and it's Bioware's official decision..Do you really think that Bioware will chage it in ME3? You are just like Don Quixote  fighting with windmills right now and you know that...
But well,it's your call.

Well, technically you're right. My Shepard is not bi; she's a full-grown lesbian.
And don't tell me she isn't; she's been with Liara, Sha'ira, and Kelly and flirted with Samara and Shiala.  And not once has she done anything remotely sexual with a dude.  So unless BioWare forces my Shepard into a sexual activity with a dude, my Shepard will remain a lesbian.

And, honestly, windmills really wouldn't stand a chance in combat against me.  They're stationary targets, usually made of easily destroyed substances.

[Yana Montana]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
or whatever you might call Kelly's romance.

The best damn romance in the game!

And believe me... It's not a one night stand... I don't even know how many times she's been up in my Shep's cabin.

LMAO! You WIN , Myst!

[FoxShadowblade]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
True, only Tali coming on to you is significantly less creepy (Liara: I AM INTERESTED IN YOU, SHEPARD O_O), and Liara's character really evolved with LotSB.

Don't tell the Talimancers I said this, but what I really want is for her and Kal'Reegar to get together.  It's pretty obvious Kal likes her, and Tali really cares about him.

First off, lol. That was when I went "Um..Liara..I've..gotta.. HEY LOOK GETH!" -run-
As for Kal'Reegar(being a Talimancer  myself:P) It took a few playthroughs to notice this for me, that there was just a hint of them liking each other right below how they are really acting. It may be unintentional but for all my playthroughs but the one where I romanced Tali, I would like to see that they get together in the third. 

As for Tali romance for females, yeah it would've been great..but like posted before, it's probably not gonna happen. If it does than, hell yeah! 

[XX55XX]

TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Femsheps can have a lesbian romance with:
Liara
Shaira
Shiala (hinted)
Kelly
and Samara (sort of)

I personally think thats more than enough.

Well, I personally don't, though I personally feel there are more than enough straight romances and no more should be included in ME3....bring on more s/s romances instead.

That's not enough at all, since Liara is the only one can you have a REAL romance. No just a one night stand, or whatever you might call Kelly's romance. And most of those are asari.

My suggestion is to make either Jack or Tali an option in ME3.

Jack should be an option, given what she has said about her past. However, given that BioWare has given Tali the option of only a heterosexual romance, she should be off-limits because that would create one glaring inconsistency with ME2.

Modifié par XX55XX, 20 décembre 2010 - 08:11 .

[TMA LIVE]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
or whatever you might call Kelly's romance.

The best damn romance in the game!

And believe me... It's not a one night stand... I don't even know how many times she's been up in my Shep's cabin.

Then why didn't you get an achievement for it? 

You know what I mean. You didn't get the official talk and all.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 20 décembre 2010 - 08:12 .

[Mr.House]

Tetragnatha_Sp wrote...
Fixed.

Shepard is not bi and it's Bioware's official decision..Do you really think that Bioware will chage it in ME3? You are just like Don Quixote  fighting with windmills right now and you know that...

But well,it's your call.

Shepard is a female, dates Liara then breaks up and dates Thane. Bisexual Shepard.

Mine stayed loyal to Liara and she is a lesbian. Your argument is invalid. Plus Tali dossier is the same for both genders which means Tali has feelings for Shepard regardless of gender and she was going to be bi.

[AdmiralCheez]

Tetragnatha_Sp wrote...

klossen4 wrote...
so female shephard who is with liara is not bi?

Asari have one gender...Only.Bioware would't let you romance her if Asari had "male" gender also.Tell me which species in ME universe have 1 gender only also?

That "mono-gendered" bull was a cover they used to justify bisexuality and strip clubs full of blue chicks.  It was cheap, it was stupid, and Son, I am disappoint.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
I have no interest in Tali, but that's just how it is.  Also, Shepard can be whatever THE PLAYER wants.

Restored to its former glory.

Shepard is not bi and it's Bioware's official decision..Do you really think that Bioware will chage it in ME3? You are just like Don Quixote  fighting with windmills right now and you know that...

FemShep is most certainly bi if you play her that way.  Behold, Liara and Kelly.  ManShep's the only one who doesn't have a bi/****** option, and that's because the basement boys don't like ****** to man on man and Bill O'Reily would have a heart attack.  Damn you, Fox News!

But well,it's your call.

Yes, it is my call, as a person roleplaying Shepard, to decide his/her sexual orientation.  Your Shepard may be straight, which is fine, but I've got two heteros and a lesbian going currently.  And the lesbian is my canon.  Why?  Because it's the closest thing to my IRL sexual orientation.

Surprise surprise, straight men aren't the only people who play videogames!

[CheeseEnchilada]

I'm all for more same-sex parings, but I'm not sure I love the idea of suddenly making Tali/Jack/Thane/Kaidan/ect. suddenly bisexual in the next game, even if they were intended to be at the beginning. The fact remains that as the characters stand now, Shepard can't romance them as a certain gender. Suddenly throwing that in the third game would not only seem odd, but it would honestly seem like a cheap romance to me; every other romance will (hopefully) have two games to develop, and this would just be tossed in there at the last part of the trilogy. As it stands, I'd prefer fleshed-out relationships with the LIs and no new ones, and more same-sex relationships in their next game series.

[GodWood]

XX55XX wrote...
Jack should be an option, given what she has said about her past.

[simple version] She was probably just experimenting and then somewhere down the line decided she preffered men, hence only romancing a male Shep.

[AdmiralCheez]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

I'm all for more same-sex parings, but I'm not sure I love the idea of suddenly making Tali/Jack/Thane/Kaidan/ect. suddenly bisexual in the next game, even if they were intended to be at the beginning. The fact remains that as the characters stand now, Shepard can't romance them as a certain gender. Suddenly throwing that in the third game would not only seem odd, but it would honestly seem like a cheap romance to me; every other romance will (hopefully) have two games to develop, and this would just be tossed in there at the last part of the trilogy. As it stands, I'd prefer fleshed-out relationships with the LIs and no new ones, and more same-sex relationships in their next game series.

See this?  This is good.  This is satisfactory.  Do this, and I will shut up.  I promise.

[GodWood]

Mr.House wrote...
Plus Tali dossier is the same for both genders which means Tali has feelings for Shepard regardless of gender and she was going to be bi.

Jeez, how arrogant is your femshep? Theres other humans in the galaxy you know.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

TMA LIVE wrote...
Then why didn't you get an achievement for it? 

You know what I mean. You didn't get the official talk and all.

The achievement is for romancing a squadmate, and Kelly is not on the squad.

And, honestly, Kelly's romantic dialogue is way better and way more believable than the out-of-the-blue crap you get with the other characters.  She has consistent relationship build and flirting; you even get to go on a date with her.

None of that, "Hey, cool story about fighting; you wanna hav sum sex?" crap.