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[The Hardest Thing In The World]

I reckon it's someone that you can't kill. Morrigan, perhaps?!

[HolyJellyfish]

What about Jowan? He never dies.

[Wishpig]

Wynne wrote...

Wishpig wrote...


Yup... Zevran is one of the easiest characters to kill.

Exactly why giving him more camera time might be seen as a good thing. The story of DA2 starts before Zevran gets killed. There may even be a reason why you had to go and get a treaty before Zevran shows up. Who's to say they didn't bat the idea around during Origins? 

I don't quite get your point...

If he is a party member before he joins the Warden, then it would be for a VERY short time, a cameo party member nothing more, and thats assuming he somehow runs into Hawke in the very short sliver of timebetween the fall of lothering and Zevran's recruitment... which is unlikley.

And he won't be a party member after those events because he could very easily be dead in many saved games. The devs won't put time and effort into companions a decent amount of players (who've carried over saves) may not even have the chance to recruit.

[Wynne]

They said "returning", as far as I saw, not "staying in as a full companion throughout the entire game."

Returning only means returning; we shouldn't assume anything more. Such assumptions have at times been flatly disproven in the past.

They gave us cameos in Awakening; no reason to think they wouldn't do so again.

Modifié par Wynne, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:42 .

[HolyJellyfish]

@wynne That's my impression too, now. Unless they come out and say they are in a party, i'm assuming cameos depending on whether they lived or died in DA:O

CORRECTED :: Never mind about the death part. I still have to keep reminding myself this isn't really a DIRECT story sequel. This is a parallel-then-after-story-sequel. Its kind of weird.

Modifié par HolyJellyfish, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:46 .

[ejoslin]

Wishpig wrote...

Wynne wrote...

Wishpig wrote...


Yup... Zevran is one of the easiest characters to kill.

Exactly why giving him more camera time might be seen as a good thing. The story of DA2 starts before Zevran gets killed. There may even be a reason why you had to go and get a treaty before Zevran shows up. Who's to say they didn't bat the idea around during Origins? 

I don't quite get your point...

If he is a party member before he joins the Warden, then it would be for a VERY short time, a cameo party member nothing more, and thats assuming he somehow runs into Hawke in the very short sliver of timebetween the fall of lothering and Zevran's recruitment... which is unlikley.

And he won't be a party member after those events because he could very easily be dead in many saved games. The devs won't put time and effort into companions a decent amount of players (who've carried over saves) may not even have the chance to recruit.

Oh, please.  many characters are very easy to kill.  If that's your sole argument, then Alistair can't appear because, well, he is very VERY easy to kill as well.  Of course Alistair appears, though.  that's confirmed.  IF he's alive.  Why can't that extend to other members of the party as well.  

Actually, it would be interesting meeting Zevran on his way to Ferelden, then later on, hear what happens to him.  That would make the people who romanced him, were friends with him, and who killed him happy.

[Wishpig]

ejoslin wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Wynne wrote...

Wishpig wrote...


Yup... Zevran is one of the easiest characters to kill.

Exactly why giving him more camera time might be seen as a good thing. The story of DA2 starts before Zevran gets killed. There may even be a reason why you had to go and get a treaty before Zevran shows up. Who's to say they didn't bat the idea around during Origins? 

I don't quite get your point...

If he is a party member before he joins the Warden, then it would be for a VERY short time, a cameo party member nothing more, and thats assuming he somehow runs into Hawke in the very short sliver of timebetween the fall of lothering and Zevran's recruitment... which is unlikley.

And he won't be a party member after those events because he could very easily be dead in many saved games. The devs won't put time and effort into companions a decent amount of players (who've carried over saves) may not even have the chance to recruit.

Oh, please.  many characters are very easy to kill.  If that's your sole argument, then Alistair can't appear because, well, he is very VERY easy to kill as well.  Of course Alistair appears, though.  that's confirmed.  IF he's alive.  Why can't that extend to other members of the party as well.  

Actually, it would be interesting meeting Zevran on his way to Ferelden, then later on, hear what happens to him.  That would make the people who romanced him, were friends with him, and who killed him happy.

Appear or be a companion? It sounds like you're not getting what I said. I think characters like Zevran/Alistair/ect can certainly make awesome cameos. I don't think being killble will effect that much! Hell look at all the various (albiet buggy) ways people could make apperances in awakening.

Yes I think it's more then possible characters like Zevran or even Shale could be cameos.

Full out companions are a very diffrent matter. Zevran/Alistair/Loghian/Ect don't have a chance of being full time companions in DA2 cause they can die so easily.

Even the devs have said thats why Wrex isn't a companion in ME2 and why Oghren WAS a companion in awakening.

Modifié par Wishpig, 23 décembre 2010 - 05:08 .

[GodWood]

HolyJellyfish wrote...
What about Jowan? He never dies.

Yes he does.

[ejoslin]

Wishpig wrote...

Appear or be a companion? It sounds like you're not getting what I said. I think characters like Zevran/Alistair/ect can certainly make awesome cameos. I don't think being killble will effect that much! Hell look at all the various (albiet buggy) ways people could make apperances in awakening.

Yes I think it's more then possible characters like Zevran or even Shale could be cameos.

Full out companions are a very diffrent matter. Zevran/Alistair/Loghian/Ect don't have a chance of being full time companions in DA2 cause they can die so easily.

Even the devs have said thats why Wrex isn't a companion in ME2 and why Oghren WAS a companion in awakening.

My apologies then; I didn't think it had been said that any of the DAO companions would become a permanent DA2 companion.  I still don't think it has, so i was just referring to either cameos or temporary party members.

Modifié par ejoslin, 23 décembre 2010 - 06:45 .

[Sethal]

GodWood wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...
What about Jowan? He never dies.

Yes he does.

You can show him your murder knife in the dungeon below Redcliffe, or allow Arl Eamon to execute him.

Him turning up in DA2 seems unlikely.

[Sethal]

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

I reckon it's someone that you can't kill. Morrigan, perhaps?!

But didn't David Gaider say somewhere that Morrigan wouldn't be in the sequel?

[Heretical]

If I remember correctly, Velanna died in my Awakening epilogue due to a falling wall (who's fault could that have been?) and so did Oghren, hopefully that eliminates them as candidates, unless its not a mandatory companion. Otherwise I will prepare to have my immersion shattered.

[ankuu]

Wynne wrote...


The guy between Varric and Isabela is still looking like Zevran to me, and it makes the most sense plotwise, so I'm gonna have to assume it's him for the time being.

Besides, you'd think if they say Origins, they don't mean DLC or Awakening. Otherwise they'd just say "a character from the DA universe" or "from a previous DA game" to keep the brush stroke broad.

But did you see that companion that's creeping from the wall? That bronze dude :lol:Gollum!

[left to Hawke's head]


As for the Zevran look-alike...doesn't really look like Zevran to me...he has auburn hair and looks like a human. He is much more bulky that Fenris.

Modifié par ankuu, 24 décembre 2010 - 08:53 .

[JoHnDoE14]

We are all forgetting the temporary party members available during our origins. For all we know, it could be Merrill.

[TrooperTethras]

Is it just me, or does the guy standing between Varric and Isabela remind anyone else of the bonus character silhouette from the Signature Edition?

[Sethal]

JoHnDoE14 wrote...

We are all forgetting the temporary party members available during our origins. For all we know, it could be Merrill.

This. Flemeth does ask Hawke to deliver an amulet to Marethari. The Keeper might repay the favor by volunteering Merrill to help with are quest. Yes it's speculation, but plausible.

[Dellingr]

Sethal wrote...

GodWood wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...
What about Jowan? He never dies.

Yes he does.

You can show him your murder knife in the dungeon below Redcliffe, or allow Arl Eamon to execute him.

Him turning up in DA2 seems unlikely.

Or you can tell him to just run when you free him in the redcliffe dungeon and then run into him later in a chanter's board quest, where you can kill him or let him go under with a new identity, so he doesn't always die

though I see your point, obviously, lots of opportunities for him to be dead or a templar chew toy

[Knal1991]

has the amount of party members been confirmed? (not counting the dlc/signature edition one)



Cause if the party consists of the characters we already know (plus someone old returning)... it somehow feels a bit.... not enough? (or atleast not interesting enough to me...)



Wouldn't mind if Anders returned though, loved that guy...

[gethslayer7]

lol i bet the returning party member is the one that comes with the sig edition (i think leaina)

[Saraphial]

I'm really sure that whoever said companion will be is Nathaniel. It seems really obvious to me. I mean, come on he's in the free marches during the happenings of origins, I'm pretty sure he can't die in the epilogue of Awakening (except for if you hang him right after you find him in the dungeon, but hey, he could escape again, right?), and if they were to have a returning party member it would definitely be someone from Awakening because the characters really weren't able to be fleshed out all the way in such a short expansion.

*gasp* or maybe Velanna... I didn't even think about that... I'm pretty sure she can't die in the epilogue either (unless you kill her in the beginning also) ...but that would be a total kill joy because I really hated her.

Although that screenshot does look a lot like Anders... but there were so many epilogues where he could die or stay with the warden or be recaptured by the circle...

Ok, so maybe it's not that obvious. *pouts*

Modifié par Saraphial, 25 décembre 2010 - 10:56 .

[marshalleck]

That screenshot sure as heck looks way too much like Anders for me to believe it's anyone other than him.

[KeeperOfJericho]

I hate how idiotic people can be. ITS CALLED DRAGON AGE ORIGINS - AWAKENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Therefore: AWAKENING IS ORIGINS TOO!

[legbamel]

Sethal wrote...

JoHnDoE14 wrote...
We are all forgetting the temporary party members available during our origins. For all we know, it could be Merrill.

This. Flemeth does ask Hawke to deliver an amulet to Marethari. The Keeper might repay the favor by volunteering Merrill to help with are quest. Yes it's speculation, but plausible.

So...is it confirmed the Ser Gilmore actually died in Highever?
And I do seem to have misplaced my dog whilst in Amaranthine.