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[Heretical]

cant tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing.

[odin1999]

In all honesty outside of wynn using mail the only reason I would pick the spec for her or my main pc was for shimmering shield I have never used combat magic nor would I ever.

[AlanC9]

Kangaxx628 wrote...

So AW's are toast, well no preorder for this fellow.

So a wizard in plate mail is the necessary and sufficient condition for you to buy a game?

[Maria Caliban]

Aermas wrote...

The fact is, if you got rid of the thrice blasted trinity it would allow for more realistic Hp system & for more realistic combat roles

This is an excellent reason to keep the thrice-blasted trinity.

[Ziggeh]

AlanC9 wrote...

Kangaxx628 wrote...

So AW's are toast, well no preorder for this fellow.

So a wizard in plate mail is the necessary and sufficient condition for you to buy a game?

That criteria leaves suprising few choices of game available.

[Kangaxx628]

Plate mail no, perhaps something more durable than cloth. After all the class name is mage, not glass cannon, or fragile little flower that shoots fireballs. It's about choices and flexibility. Though I do hope my rogue can wear an orange jumpsuit and yell "believe it!" as a finishing move.

[Aermas]

I don't know why strength is a requirement for armor, it takes no heroic amount of strength to wear most armor, I could accept an allowance for massive armor to remain restricted but light & medium armors should be allowed. & since magic in not hindered by armor, why aren't they wearing armor?

[Ziggeh]

Aermas wrote...

I don't know why strength is a requirement for armor, it takes no heroic amount of strength to wear most armor, I could accept an allowance for massive armor to remain restricted but light & medium armors should be allowed. & since magic in not hindered by armor, why aren't they wearing armor?

It's a game. Deal with it.

[eqzitara]

though i doubt arcane warrior is still around since it was almost game breaking. Isn't it possible that there are more just unlockable?

[Kangaxx628]

Ziggeh wrote...

Aermas wrote...

I don't know why strength is a requirement for armor, it takes no heroic amount of strength to wear most armor, I could accept an allowance for massive armor to remain restricted but light & medium armors should be allowed. & since magic in not hindered by armor, why aren't they wearing armor?

It's a game. Deal with it.

Yes a game that as I learn more and more about and see what has been removed becomes less and less interesting. As pointed out by others when a sequel is made the choices are usually increased not decreased. Bioware did the opposite.

[Davasar]

AlanC9 wrote...

Kangaxx628 wrote...

So AW's are toast, well no preorder for this fellow.

So a wizard in plate mail is the necessary and sufficient condition for you to buy a game?

So what?  That's his opinion.  For some people, these things are deal breakers, no matter how big or small they seem to be depending on your perspective.

Face it, just because you find taking things out acceptable doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

Modifié par Davasar, 24 décembre 2010 - 06:48 .

[Davasar]

Kangaxx628 wrote...

Yes a game that as I learn more and more about and see what has been removed becomes less and less interesting. As pointed out by others when a sequel is made the choices are usually increased not decreased. Bioware did the opposite.

Yup

[Dave of Canada]

So most people won't buy the game because they can't be a superior warrior while playing a mage?



... wut.

[Davasar]

Dave of Canada wrote...

So most people won't buy the game because they can't be a superior warrior while playing a mage?

... wut.

Whether the class is "OP" or not has nothing to do with it.  If there is nothing of interest in a game for you, why would you play it?

For many, it starts with the character first.  Without the race/class they want, they wont play.

It's really that simple.

[Seagloom]

Dave of Canada wrote...

So most people won't buy the game because they can't be a superior warrior while playing a mage?

... wut.

I think it has less to do with being a superior warrior and more with being a mage that can mix it up. As someone who has played this archetype numerous times in past games, I can understand the appeal. Playing a warrior can be very, *very* boring in most games. Warriors rarely get a dizzying array of combat manuevers to play around with. In older games they amounted to clicking attack and playing spectator. A gish provides that experience while offering options to keep things interesting. It also allows one to stick to a class they are comfortable with while branching out to new things (for them). Finally, it is an old fantasy fiction trope. There is even Odin who is kinda sorta a mythological origin for the concept.

Personally, I thought arcane warrior failed to scratch that itch since it was limited to auto attacking, but I can understand why someone might not want to buy a game if their playstyle was not properly supported. I skip games all the time if they force me to play a male character. I also sometimes skip a game because it offers no real mage equivalent. I would have never bothered with "Mass Effect" without biotics. People just have different criteria. Certainly there are people who would consider my above examples ludicrous reasons to skip a game.

Modifié par Seagloom, 24 décembre 2010 - 07:16 .

[AlanC9]

Davasar wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Kangaxx628 wrote...

So AW's are toast, well no preorder for this fellow.

So a wizard in plate mail is the necessary and sufficient condition for you to buy a game?

So what?  That's his opinion.  For some people, these things are deal breakers, no matter how big or small they seem to be depending on your perspective.

Face it, just because you find taking things out acceptable doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

Hey, I just wanted to know if he really meant what he was saying.

if he does, it doesn't bother me. Sucks to be him, though.

[Davasar]

AlanC9 wrote...

Davasar wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Kangaxx628 wrote...

So AW's are toast, well no preorder for this fellow.

So a wizard in plate mail is the necessary and sufficient condition for you to buy a game?

So what?  That's his opinion.  For some people, these things are deal breakers, no matter how big or small they seem to be depending on your perspective.

Face it, just because you find taking things out acceptable doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

Hey, I just wanted to know if he really meant what he was saying.

if he does, it doesn't bother me. Sucks to be him, though.

I am sure that he will be quite happy saving $50 not buying game he has no interest in playing.

That's doesn't sound like it sucks at all.  There are other good games coming out one can spend their money on, Shogun 2: Total War comes to mind.

[ErichHartmann]

I'll be enjoying DA2's story regardless of which class I play and lack thereof. Storytelling is a little bit more important to me in an RPG.

[Dave of Canada]

Davasar wrote...

Shogun 2: Total War comes to mind.

Can't be an Arcane Warrior in Shogun 2.

[Heretical]

I feel like the ability to control large amounts of samurai will make up for the lack of AW.

Modifié par Heretical, 24 décembre 2010 - 07:20 .

[AlanC9]

Davasar wrote...

I am sure that he will be quite happy saving $50 not buying game he has no interest in playing.

That's doesn't sound like it sucks at all.  There are other good games coming out one can spend their money on, Shogun 2: Total War comes to mind.

That's true, if Kangaxx628 's original post was b.s. Maybe it was.

Honestly, do you read posts before responding to them?

[Burningwolf]

The origional mage in armor dnd style...the Cleric!



Gads...mabey a sh/aw playthrough is in order.Just wish I didnt have so much of the game still in my head...makes replays hard for me.ANd lets face it....The game dosent really change that much,reguardless of what you do.(story wise I mean)

[Ortaya Alevli]

Yeah, Bye-Bye Arcane Warrior. I'm not even touching the game. In fact, Arcane Warrior specialization was the sole reason I ever played Origins. If they didn't include AW in it, I'd just go bomb BioWare to heavens. After asking directions, of course. I don't know where in Canada their office is.

Seriously, how can one ever think for a second that it's possible to make an enjoyable game without Arcane Warrior in it? Come to think of it, I should still go bomb BioWare, if only because of the previous games they made without AW. Yeah, I'll go do just that.

I understand your frustration, guys. My heart reaches out for you. Damn it all, BioWare, and bye-bye AW.

[HopHazzard]

I liked AW, but I'm not heart-broken that it's gone. Lore-wise it would've been difficult to work it in. It was a lot of fun, but I'm looking forward to trying the new spec.

[marshalleck]

Mages needed the nerfbat anyway. AW was ridiculous.