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#376
Amagoi

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It's probably been mentioned before, but no Arcane Warrior in DA2 makes sense. Sounds like they were a small, elite order even when they were active. The chances of anyone outside of the Warden still having that knowledge is very slim. If there's even a handful of people with those abilities in Thedas, I'd be surprised.



So, there is a more sensible in-game reason for it not being there. That's just my two cents though.

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Archereon wrote...

Planet scanning was just terrible in my opinion, which many others, including high profile reviewers shared, prompting Bioware to make it pathetically easy, yet still annoying in a patch.


It was boring, but it was what they added to cover the cost of their new inventory system, which were the upgrades.

That's where your inventory went. If you don't believe me, play a no upgrade game of ME2. You'll see it isn't fundamentally different from a no inventory beyond starter for ME1.

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Bah, this was by far my favorite subclass. It's also false marketing, because the Destiny trailer clearly shows a blood mage wielding a sword (then again, maybe it's some kind of sword-staff) and armor. Can some dev please say this is not the case? Since we know Force Mage isn't a real subclass, Arcane warrior might still be in it's place.

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 12 janvier 2011 - 05:40 .


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I was also a little bummed about hearing nothing about the Arcane Warrior (perhaps it is unlockable in game-play or what-have-you for all of us hopers out there), but when you see the actual garb and weaponry mage Hawke dresses in, the idea of an weaponed and armored mage seems redundant.



Then again, perhaps they would have set up the spell-tree to channel certain spells specifically through attack animations. That would be pretty cool.

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I hope Force mage has something to do with Gravity Spells =P

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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't someone in BioWare say that Force Mage doesn't exist? I'll try to find a link of that soon, very tired now.



Arcane Warrior is perhaps the specialization I used the least in DA:O. Only time I ever use it is from Wynne and that's just so she can use Wade's Superior Dragonskin Armor for the talent decrease bonus. At least Spirit Healer is still on there, a useful specialization in a pinch.

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mpdx wrote...

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't someone in BioWare say that Force Mage doesn't exist? I'll try to find a link of that soon, very tired now.

Arcane Warrior is perhaps the specialization I used the least in DA:O. Only time I ever use it is from Wynne and that's just so she can use Wade's Superior Dragonskin Armor for the talent decrease bonus. At least Spirit Healer is still on there, a useful specialization in a pinch.

I do it because it's just cool to be a warrior mage.

#383
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Since Balders gate I have HATED playing as anything a combat class (warrior, rougue Monk etc)

But the arcane warrior allowed me put my hatred of magic staffs aside and I ended up creating one of my faverorite Characters in an RPG.

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I agree it was waaaaaay overpowered my Arcane Warrior holds the record for quickest kill of both the ArchDemon and The Mother, I would've loved to see it return in some powererd down form Mages in armor with Bloody big swords how is that not cool?

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I think I'll still be able to stab something with my Staff of Parthalan....

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Zeke Calder wrote...

I think I'll still be able to stab something with my Staff of Parthalan....


Agreed lol...I'll probably just end up spec'ing my mage as more of a "Battle Mage" since I have access to the Staff of Parthalan.  Which, IMO, could be part of the reason WHY we can get the SoP to begin with.  I could be wrong, which is known to happen.  Still on the fence as to whether my first character is going to be a Mage or Warrior though.  Leaning more toward Warrior though on my first run just so I can find out what's "new" and what isnt so to speak.  I never wore the heavier armors on my AW in Origins anyway.  I basically wore Reaper's Vestments, Blackhand gauntlets, and rings that increased spirit damage and/or nature damage.  Nor did I use sword and board on him either.  I always had him using a Two-Hander with Haste cast to "speed up" my attacks heh.

Modifié par Aradace, 12 janvier 2011 - 12:03 .


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 It'd be so awesome if they had a mage class similar to the Herald of Xotli from Age of Conan.  They can only wear cloth armor and are very squishy;  however, they carry big 2H swords and combine fire magic with their melee attacks.  Oh, they can also turn into a freakin' demon.  :devil:

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so.......is Force Mage still in or not?



I'm confused now..........lol

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Thread title is bye-bye Arcane Warrior, not Arcane Warrior keeps comming back. So just let him go.

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I just hope the BM spec is awesome.

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Good arcane warrior was imba.

I should know i played it.

Being one was like being a retribution paladin from WoW right down to the auto attacking.

Modifié par Follow Me on Twitter, 12 janvier 2011 - 04:20 .


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Besides, from the trailer it shows that a Mage Hawke will still end up deck out in Badass Heavy Plate Armor once more!

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What there isn't an Arcane Warrior? T-T

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The main reason I liked the Arcane Warrior spec is because if a bunch of darkspawn came over to harass me (or if I ran out of mana), I could flip combat magic on and switch weapon sets to sword and shield instead of staff - and then do some melee attacks. I hated that pew-pew, 'poke a darkspawn in the eye when it's stabbing you in the face' thing that mages did with staffs. Now they can do some basic melee attacks, so I hear. So I'm fine about the loss of AW.

I kind of got attached to the Keeper spec in Awakenings though. I hope Merrill has some of those capabilities in her repotoire. And so long as 'force mage' means 'attack magic', then I'm as happy as can be!

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I hope AW is back for DA3 and we get to choose our race again..... I know that no human arcane warrior makes sense RP wise, but I really miss the class. Been RPing an elven arcane warrior (bladesinger/eldritch knight - whatever you want to call it these days)  since around 1995....

Bioware, bring back epic sword & sorcery .... and I mean that ... literally!

p.s. if people think AW was op in DAO, just make them only able to wear medium armmor with the spec. not heavy.

Also, remember they had no bonus moves/finishing moves in DAO.

Modifié par Rasputin, 23 février 2011 - 06:47 .


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I want to be able to do it all, and why not? Hawke is supposedly the Champion of Kirkwall, some epic hero whose power causes the very roots of Thedas to quake. I certainly won't mind if I can cross class and make a warrior/mage, or if there are mage talents that will lend themselves to equipping a sword and armor and mixing it up with melee, but if by choosing a mage I relegate myself to wearing pretty robes and eeking in fear if an enemy comes within five feet, I'll be disappointed in the game.

For those of you who disagree based on your preconceptions of what a mage "should be," or of how we're "supposed" to play a game that we've purchased with our money, I suggest you make your own mages back-line fireballers and forgo the passive or sustained boosts which give tank mages their jedi-like coolness. Why worry about what your friend's character build is like if you've made your own choices? Your characters cannot fight each other anyway, so comparing relative power is a bit moot.

P.S. I'd like to share a bit of a conversation I had with a friend after making this post:

Question: "To whom is playing an Arcane Warrior unfair?"

Answer: "The Darkspawn."

Modifié par Melgrimm, 25 février 2011 - 10:19 .


#396
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I miss you so much, Arcane Warrior. Every day, I sit on the cliff side, my tears making an ocean for you to sail upon and return to me.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

I miss you so much, Arcane Warrior. Every day, I sit on the cliff side, my tears making an ocean for you to sail upon and return to me.


I was hoping to make an OP bow wielding mage and pump points into Magic/Dexterity, but booooo at weapon restrictions :(

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Face of Evil wrote...

Good riddance. It was too OP.

Its overpowered but Its not like you were forced to use it. Im more of a spirt healer anyway with a side of shapeshifter in origins.

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_F34R3D_ wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I miss you so much, Arcane Warrior. Every day, I sit on the cliff side, my tears making an ocean for you to sail upon and return to me.


I was hoping to make an OP bow wielding mage and pump points into Magic/Dexterity, but booooo at weapon restrictions :(


She was being ironic. It hurts, I know.