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[Altima Darkspells]

I hope robes aren't as ugly, or the armor isn't so super awesome.



That's the only way I wouldn't miss Arcane Warrior.

[hexaligned]

The playstyle is still supported, mages still have melee attacks, the only difference is people will actually have to balance their stats this time around to play like that... which is a good thing in my eyes.

Edit: To the above poster, you can still equip armor if you pump your str high enough... at least you could a few months ago when I asked.

Modifié par relhart, 21 décembre 2010 - 01:08 .

[mellifera]

tmp7704 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

We can be a Jedi?

Well, SWTOR Online did have Jedi Wizard until that got renamed...

Incidentally, this Shepard looks just like my "main" Shepard. 'tis unsettling, it's like she came to life and started posting on the forums.

But of course, since we don't get cloaks we can't really be Jedi. Damn you, BioWare! *cancels preorder*

LOL great minds think alike, clearly. This is my main Shepard too

[IndigoWolfe]

Perhaps the ability to wear armor will be the final branch in a skill tree for a mage?

[andar91]

relhart wrote...

The playstyle is still supported, mages still have melee attacks, the only difference is people will actually have to balance their stats this time around to play like that... which is a good thing in my eyes.

Yeah, I think people who want to focus on melee mages can still do it-they just have to focus on spells and abilities that supplement that playstyle instead of getting Arcane Warrior and instantly having access to so much power.  They can take Staff Focus (if it's still in) to help their melee attacks, Rock Armor, some buffs, and maybe a healing spell or two. 

[Stabby McGoodstab]

And nothing of value was lost.

[deadly shot JDH]

It was a really cool class to play but so overpowered and basically made you invincible. Bioware probably should have just made it weaker not scrap it all together, anyway I hope the new class is really awesome and makes up for it.

Modifié par deadly shot JDH, 21 décembre 2010 - 01:11 .

[Sharn01]

Force magic actually sounds like non-elemental attack and defense magic. Magic that is niether benefited or hindered by elemental weakness or resistance.

[Dasher1010]

I was hoping that battlemage would return. Then agian, battlemage was a useless spec unless you were already an AW.

[Schneidend]

Maria Caliban wrote...
But mages should totally be able to wear armor without investing in strength and defend as well as warriors while still casting spells. I mean, that's what people play mages for, right? To wear massive plate armor and get right into the thick of combat.

Maria beat me to a sarcastic remark about people mourning the loss of an overpowered specialization.

[SDNcN]

I wonder if Force Mage is the Kirkwall Circle specialization Mike Laidlaw hinted at.

Modifié par SDNcN, 21 décembre 2010 - 01:15 .

[Russalka]

The mage clothes looked heavier than what the rogues wore in the combat video.

And now they use staves to fight in melee as well. How much different is it now?

[Shiro_the_Gambler]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Hmmm...was hoping shapeshifter would return.

As was I .  T'is sad to see it go.  I liked my Swarm form.

Modifié par Shiro_the_Gambler, 21 décembre 2010 - 01:17 .

[Blacklash93]

I thought we were learnng more about the ancient elves in DA2. It would be wierd not to come across that specialization at some point.

And only 3 specs per class? Well, as long as they're deeper trees and have more unique moves than the ones in Origins, I won't mind. I was sick of all the extremely similar buff abilities and their upgrades, there.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 21 décembre 2010 - 02:28 .

[Marionetten]

... No shapeshifter? Oh well, guess they figured it was easier to cut it out than it was to make it viable.

Couldn't care less about arcane warrior. Only reason I took it was because of the horrible staff animations.

Russalka wrote...

The mage clothes looked heavier than what the rogues wore in the combat video.

And now they use staves to fight in melee as well. How much different is it now?

Stats =/= aesthetics.

And mages NEEDED that aesthetical upgrade.

Modifié par Marionetten, 21 décembre 2010 - 01:24 .

[Aztec Gold]

We didn't lose anything really. Mages can still dish out melee attacks if they want. That's the way I see it, at least.

[Xewaka]

He won't be missed. And look, we might get a mage specialization that actually involves magic! Not possession from beyond the veil, or forbidden arts, or becoming a melee death machine! A spec with actual, pure, blasting, magic!

I'm excited about that. I might even play a mage this time around! I can be a magic casting mage! Who would'a thunk that?

[Blacklash93]

Aztec Gold wrote...

We didn't lose anything really. Mages can still dish out melee attacks if they want. That's the way I see it, at least.

I doubt that's easy to intentionally do without manually moving a character close to the target. Kind of impossible to involve in tactics.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 21 décembre 2010 - 01:53 .

[andar91]

Xewaka wrote...

He won't be missed. And look, we might get a mage specialization that actually involves magic! Not possession from beyond the veil, or forbidden arts, or becoming a melee death machine! A spec with actual, pure, blasting, magic!
I'm excited about that. I might even play a mage this time around! I can be a magic casting mage! Who would'a thunk that?

Blasphemy!

But seriously, I agree completely.  When I play a mage, I want to be wearing a dress, standing in the back lines, and throwing fireballs because if I did anything else I could break a nail.  And that's how it's supposed to be. (Exaggeration).

But yeah, I never understood the desire for Arcane Warrior (though I do understand the desire for multi-classing); if you want to fight in armor with swords and such so bad, why not just play a warrior?

[hexaligned]

andar91 wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

He won't be missed. And look, we might get a mage specialization that actually involves magic! Not possession from beyond the veil, or forbidden arts, or becoming a melee death machine! A spec with actual, pure, blasting, magic!
I'm excited about that. I might even play a mage this time around! I can be a magic casting mage! Who would'a thunk that?

Blasphemy!

But seriously, I agree completely.  When I play a mage, I want to be wearing a dress, standing in the back lines, and throwing fireballs because if I did anything else I could break a nail.  And that's how it's supposed to be. (Exaggeration).

But yeah, I never understood the desire for Arcane Warrior (though I do understand the desire for multi-classing); if you want to fight in armor with swords and such so bad, why not just play a warrior?

Mostly for RP reasons, and it adds a bit of flavor to melee combat.  I just started a new DAO play through and DLed the multiclass mod, I made a 2 hander fighter, with some drain life and raise undead.  Throw in some debuffs and I have a sort of antipaladin type... guy.  It isn't necessary no, it just adds more options to play style.
Of course if I had my way there wouldn't be classes at all.

[themageguy]

we might get it in da 3 as a racial class spec.? Ie for elven mages. Who knows. I liked arcane warrior it was kool, but i was hoping for battlemage or shapeshifter as the melee replacement since it was done an injustice in origins.

[andar91]

relhart wrote...

andar91 wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

He won't be missed. And look, we might get a mage specialization that actually involves magic! Not possession from beyond the veil, or forbidden arts, or becoming a melee death machine! A spec with actual, pure, blasting, magic!
I'm excited about that. I might even play a mage this time around! I can be a magic casting mage! Who would'a thunk that?

Blasphemy!

But seriously, I agree completely.  When I play a mage, I want to be wearing a dress, standing in the back lines, and throwing fireballs because if I did anything else I could break a nail.  And that's how it's supposed to be. (Exaggeration).

But yeah, I never understood the desire for Arcane Warrior (though I do understand the desire for multi-classing); if you want to fight in armor with swords and such so bad, why not just play a warrior?

Mostly for RP reasons, and it adds a bit of flavor to melee combat.  I just started a new DAO play through and DLed the multiclass mod, I made a 2 hander fighter, with some drain life and raise undead.  Throw in some debuffs and I have a sort of antipaladin type... guy.  It isn't necessary no, it just adds more options to play style.
Of course if I had my way there wouldn't be classes at all.

Fair enough.  I'm speaking more for gameplay reasons, but if you factor in RP value, then everything is worthwhile to someone, sometime.

[Xewaka]

andar91 wrote...
Fair enough.  I'm speaking more for gameplay reasons, but if you factor in RP value, then everything is worthwhile to someone, sometime.

Yeah. Like playing a lady dwarf.

Modifié par Xewaka, 21 décembre 2010 - 01:50 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Force Mage? I can't wait to Force Choke a fool who tries to talk down about magic being a sad devotion.