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[Avilia]

Yes, as long as it makes sense for the story.

[darknoon5]

Like ME2, decisions you make you should lead to whether you "lose" or "win," but it should be alot more hard to win, seeing as you practically had to try to get all of your squad killed in ME2.
I'd like a ending where the reapers win, but it shouldn't be default, or it gets rid of the purpose of shaping the story and it's outcome in bioware RPG's.

Modifié par darknoon5, 22 décembre 2010 - 12:40 .

[Knoll Argonar]

^This.

Make your choices change the destiny of the galaxy.

[TudorWolf]

If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now...

[--Master of All--]

There seems to be a growing sentiment against happy endings around here... I have to question why anyone would want Bioware to force everyone to experience the same ending. RPGs are about choices and consequences, and when all choices lead to the same consequences, it somewhat defeats the purpose of the game. A game like Mass Effect should not be written as an attempt to educate the player on the odds of surviving an actual Reaper invasion, which I'm sure are quite low

Personally, for ME3, I want at least one cheese-tastic happy ending, a nightmare-inducing evil ending, and a few that are somewhere in between.

For the 'bad guys win' scenario, I would prefer an 'ultimate evil ending' where Shepard betrays everyone and allies with the Reapers to an ending where everyone just curls up and dies. Then at least I'm still in the driver's seat.

Modifié par --Master of All--, 22 décembre 2010 - 12:50 .

[rma2110]

This is Mass Effect, where our choices are supposed to have some sort of effect. If Bioware shoves a single you-can-never-win-no matter-what ending down own collective throats then I would feel cheated. My choices would have meant nothing.

Modifié par rma2110, 22 décembre 2010 - 12:55 .

[Lumikki]

Hard to say, I think unablity win no matter what you do is little sad. I mean the motive what we have is try to survive, knowing that what ever you do you lose anyway, isn't good. That would take away the reason why to do it at all. Sure, ones for story, but after that...

[Alarieliia]

I fully support a horrible ending. But in saying that I do believe there should be a better ending where they win but at great cost.

On the topic of plausibility...well Bioware already pulled a DBZ sooooo despite that there will probably be a way to win no matter how unbelievable it seems.

As I've stated before, Shepard built his/her career on doing the impossible.

Modifié par Alarieliia, 22 décembre 2010 - 01:06 .

[H2Ape]

I think as long as it's done well and there is an ultimate goal it is totally possible to pull off a lose/lose situation

[J0HNL3I]

id hate it if you had to but i wouldn't mind if it was a possible ending like everyone dying in ME2

[--Master of All--]

^Think this is the majority opinion.

[GodWood]

TudorWolf wrote...
If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now..

The journey

[darknoon5]

GodWood wrote...

TudorWolf wrote...
If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now..

The journey

But if the ending was forced, it would mean it loses one of the main elements of the mass effect series-the ability to shape the story of your Shepard, linked together directly, and I can appreciate the "journey" without dying no matter what.
Mass effect is about choices from ME1 to ME3, and if in the end saving the Rachni and keeping the base have no effect (positive or negative) the series emphasis on big choices and their consequences will have been pointless.

Modifié par darknoon5, 22 décembre 2010 - 01:24 .

[rma2110]

"Meaningful choices". Ah, yes, we have dismissed that claim. A single ending for all!

[Alienmorph]

Why so many people want Shep dead as unique possible ending? I really can't catch this...

[--Master of All--]

GodWood wrote...

TudorWolf wrote...
If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now..

The journey

The ending is part of the journey.

[rma2110]

I don't get it eiher. People on this forum can be such miserable downers.

[GodWood]

--Master of All-- wrote...

GodWood wrote...

TudorWolf wrote...
If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now..

The journey

The ending is part of the journey.

And that wouldn't change by only having the one ending where you lose.

darknoon5 wrote...
But if the ending was forced, it would mean it loses one of the main elements of the mass effect series-the ability to shape the story of your Shepard, linked together directly, and I can appreciate the "journey" without dying no matter what.
Mass effect is about choices from ME1 to ME3, and if in the end saving the Rachni and keeping the base have no effect (positive or negative) the series emphasis on big choices and their consequences will have been pointless.

I wasn't promoting/suporting/whatever there only being one ending, I was simply answering his question on "what would be the point of the series if you could only lose?"

Modifié par GodWood, 22 décembre 2010 - 01:34 .

[--Master of All--]

rma2110 wrote...

I don't get it eiher. People on this forum can be such miserable downers.

*Gives rma2110 a cookie*

Feel better?

[--Master of All--]

GodWood wrote...

--Master of All-- wrote...

GodWood wrote...

TudorWolf wrote...
If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now..

The journey

The ending is part of the journey.

And that wouldn't change by only having the one ending where you lose.

What do players gain by having only one ending?

[rma2110]

*munches* Yes! Little known fact that all ills can be healed with the power of a cookie. My mom said so LOL!

[H2Ape]

darknoon5 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

TudorWolf wrote...
If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now..

The journey

But if the ending was forced, it would mean it loses one of the main elements of the mass effect series-the ability to shape the story of your Shepard, linked together directly, and I can appreciate the "journey" without dying no matter what.
Mass effect is about choices from ME1 to ME3, and if in the end saving the Rachni and keeping the base have no effect (positive or negative) the series emphasis on big choices and their consequences will have been pointless.

I think the ending would be more forced if you won.
You're still shaping the story of your Shepard.
I think all the choices you make should lead to different degreese of losing.

[darknoon5]

H2Ape wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

TudorWolf wrote...
If the only option was a loss ending, that would have me genuinely question the point in the series up to now..

The journey

But if the ending was forced, it would mean it loses one of the main elements of the mass effect series-the ability to shape the story of your Shepard, linked together directly, and I can appreciate the "journey" without dying no matter what.
Mass effect is about choices from ME1 to ME3, and if in the end saving the Rachni and keeping the base have no effect (positive or negative) the series emphasis on big choices and their consequences will have been pointless.

I think the ending would be more forced if you won.
You're still shaping the story of your Shepard.
I think all the choices you make should lead to different degreese of losing.

As I said earllier, choices you make not just in ME3, but in the previous 2 games, should effect your chances of sucess, and whether you win/lose. Victory should come at a cost I think, but the cost can be lessened with the right decisions, and obviosly if you mess up, the reapers should win. Victory with minimum losses shouldn't be impossible, just difficult.

Modifié par darknoon5, 22 décembre 2010 - 01:40 .

[Xilizhra]

Again, if loss is the only option, choice becomes meaningless. But I'm fairly confident in being able to win, and win well.