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[Sammuthegreat]

Elite Midget wrote...

If you don't have the time to blast through ME1 with a level 60 shepard, since you've had ME1 for years, than 'maybe' you don't have the time to play though ME2 either.

What's with everyone throwing the '15 hour' number? It seriously doesn't take 15 hours to beat ME1` especially if you just do things that mattered in ME2. I mean really, stop trying to make to task seem like it takes forever when it doesnt. Especially if you've already beaten ME1 before.

So yes, it makes them lazy.

Every time you say how short a time it takes to beat ME1 only doing the important decisions, you completely undermine yourself. Even if it only takes one hour to beat, that's still 6 times longer than it takes to do the exact same thing with the comic.

In any case, your argument surely is that everyone should be able to experience the full extent of ME1, which can't be done in a quick runthrough.

[Elite Midget]

Yet the Comic was never meant to throw out the need for ME1. However, with PC/360 Gamers getting it than it would seem that wasen't the case after all. Forget ME1, get the Comic and you're done. No need to play games because Bioware will do it for you!



I can see it now.... A ME2 Comic to appease the same whinners that demanded a ME1 Comic despite having ME1.

[shinobi602]

You're still whining about this **** Midget?



Lord have mercy, ain't you tired yet?

[Angel-Shinkiro]

Elite Midget wrote...

Yet the Comic was never meant to throw out the need for ME1. However, with PC/360 Gamers getting it than it would seem that wasen't the case after all. Forget ME1, get the Comic and you're done. No need to play games because Bioware will do it for you!

I can see it now.... A ME2 Comic to appease the same whinners that demanded a ME1 Comic despite having ME1.

Actually, having a ME2 comic isn't a bad idea. Now Bioware won't have to cut out stuff from the plot because of people not playing ME2.

That's a great idea Midget.  Something I have yet to see from you.

[Melra]

Yay! Comic! I don't mind playing ME1, but I guess this is nice alternative.



Those who want to play ME1, still can do so, no harm done. People whining about this decision, should find something else to do, it's decided.

[Elite Midget]

Justice never gets tire when presented against the injustices of greed, laziness, and hatred. Someone needs to speak for the ones wronged.



By more 'options' you mean more 'options' for 'just' PC/360 owners.

[Mister Mida]

Angel-Shinkiro wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Yet the Comic was never meant to throw out the need for ME1. However, with PC/360 Gamers getting it than it would seem that wasen't the case after all. Forget ME1, get the Comic and you're done. No need to play games because Bioware will do it for you!

I can see it now.... A ME2 Comic to appease the same whinners that demanded a ME1 Comic despite having ME1.

Actually, having a ME2 comic isn't a bad idea. Now Bioware won't have to cut out stuff from the plot because of people not playing ME2.

That's a great idea Midget.  Something I have yet to see from you.

Too bad no one came with it sooner. Like before Bioware started development on ME2. Then it wouldn't have to be a reboot of the story.

[cachx]

Elite Midget wrote...
Justice never gets tire when presented against the injustices of greed, laziness, and hatred. Someone needs to speak for the ones wronged.

I can't help but hear the Justice League theme in my head when I read this

[CROAT_56]

elite considering CH said it would be initially exclusive meaning before people evan started complaning about not having it BW was planning to release it to everybody



sorry mate but your points of justice are moot

[shinobi602]

Elite Midget wrote...

Justice never gets tire when presented against the injustices of greed, laziness, and hatred. Someone needs to speak for the ones wronged.

[CROAT_56]

shinobi602 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Justice never gets tire when presented against the injustices of greed, laziness, and hatred. Someone needs to speak for the ones wronged.

lol I approove of this

[charmingcharlie]

Elite Midget wrote...

Justice never gets tire when presented against the injustices of greed, laziness, and hatred. Someone needs to speak for the ones wronged.

By more 'options' you mean more 'options' for 'just' PC/360 owners.

I see Elite Midget is still whining and showing us how screwed his sense of "justice" is.  Justice is ensuring that everyone gets all Mass Effect 2 content.  You are actually after vengence, you have admitted that you are by stating you believe in an eye for an eye.  You believe that because PS3 users miss out on ME 1 then PC/360 users should "suffer" by missing out on content.

That is not justice that is maliciousness, pettiness and chidishness.  Nothing can be done to redress the unfairness of PS3 users missing out on ME 1 except give them ME 1.  However that is not going to happen, but with holding ME 2 content from PC/360 will not make the situation any "fairer" it will just make things even more unfair.

I am surprised that you haven't answered my question though.  Since you believe PS3 users are so hard done by why aren't you campaigning for the PC/360 version of Mass Effect 3 to be held off the PC/360 for an extra year ?  I mean surely in your bizarre world it is an injustice that PS3 users had to wait a year for ME 2 and in your world the way to address that is to make PC/360 users suffer by waiting an extra year for ME 3.

[Zombievarning]

Personally I am glad about this, as I changed platforms between ME1 and ME2 (Xbox360 to PC), which means that all my saves were unusable, and I've been using the Mass Effect Saves to get the closest to my existing characters with some tweaking in a Save Editor (as I've played ME1 way too many times to play it on PC at the moment). This does seem interesting, and being quite a comic art nerd, it'll be nice to see what they came up with for the comic.

[Elite Midget]

Yet your Justice Involves appeasing the Whinners that have ME1 but want a Comic just for the novelty. Now you can 'choose' to play ME1, using a default Shepard, 'or' go through a comic. Too bad you have 3 choices while PS3 owners only have one.

Though for PC Gamers they have 5 choices witht he addition of downloading save or using a surperior editor.

Edit: Too bad I lack others who would uphold Justice alongside me.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 23 décembre 2010 - 08:26 .

[shinobi602]

Elite Midget wrote...

Yet your Justice Involves appeasing the Whinners that have ME1 but want a Comic just for the novelty. Now you can 'choose' to play ME1, using a default Shepard, 'or' go through a comic. Too bad you have 3 choices while PS3 owners only have one.

Though for PC Gamers they have 5 choices witht he addition of downloading save or using a surperior editor.

Edit: Too bad I lack others who would uphold Justice alongside me.

www.youtube.com/watch

[DIrishB]

Elite Midget wrote...

Why? I took the high road last time

 
And so this time you're taking the low road?

and the Whinners continued to demean and protrate themselves as they begged Bioware to give PS3 Owners the Bird and give them a Comic too even though ME1 > Comic in every way possible.

Why the Whinners wanted the comic? It's simple.

One-Up the Competition
Greed
Laziness
A Gimmie-Gimmie and Mine-Mine Mindset
Demanded to have a more true and full ME Experience over the PS3 Owners

Speaking of whiners...I mean, are you really serious?  I hoped you were just having fun with people but now I see you're actually serious.

Just because many of us own the game already on PC or Xbox 360, that isn't necessarily a reason NOT to want to read or own this comic also, especially for people like myself who love the ME universe so much and end up being completists (that is, we are compelled to pick up anything ME related...even the crappy ME Galaxy iPhone game...   ). 

I can't speak for anyone else, but personally my reasons for wanting this comic on the 360 have nothing to do with one-upping competition.  I really don't care.

Greed and a Gimmie-Gimmie Mindset certainly are parts of it, but then again, how does that not apply to you wanting Mass Effect 3, or the newest DLC for ME2?  Yeah, I'm calling you a hypocrite, in case you weren't sure.  If something interests someone and they have a desire to obtain and own it through legal means which harm no one else, who are you to call them out and demean them for it?
And Bioware bowing to whiners?  Kind of a one-sided and limited viewpoint, don't you think?  How about Bioware realizing there's an interest and possible market for such material besides JUST ON THE PS3?  A means to get more people interested in your flagship franchise on ALL consoles?  Why wouldn't they want to do that?  They're a business for Christ's sake.
I swear, some of you people nitpick over the most ridiculous things.  There's so many more important things to waste your time and energy on than complaining about something NOT being an exclusive, for whatever reason.

Elite Midget wrote...

Yet your Justice Involves appeasing the Whinners that have ME1 but want a Comic just for the novelty. Now you can 'choose' to play ME1, using a default Shepard, 'or' go through a comic. Too bad you have 3 choices while PS3 owners only have one.

Though for PC Gamers they have 5 choices witht he addition of downloading save or using a surperior editor.

Edit: Too bad I lack others who would uphold Justice alongside me.

Why not blame Sony for the fact that one of their studios with whom they have an exclusive-development deal DIDN'T come up with the idea for Mass Effect like Bioware did.  Your current argument holds about as much water...

Now can I start a debate on how unfair it is that I can't play God of War III or Metal Gear Solid 4 on my Xbox 360?

Modifié par DIrishB, 23 décembre 2010 - 08:35 .

[Melra]

shinobi602 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Yet your Justice Involves appeasing the Whinners that have ME1 but want a Comic just for the novelty. Now you can 'choose' to play ME1, using a default Shepard, 'or' go through a comic. Too bad you have 3 choices while PS3 owners only have one.

Though for PC Gamers they have 5 choices witht he addition of downloading save or using a surperior editor.

Edit: Too bad I lack others who would uphold Justice alongside me.

www.youtube.com/watch

[charmingcharlie]

Elite Midget wrote... Too bad you have 3 choices while PS3 owners only have one.

You know I actually get the feeling most PS3 users don't give a ****.  The only one moaning about this is YOU.

Elite Midget wrote...

Though for PC Gamers they have 5 choices witht he addition of downloading save or using a surperior editor.

I keep seeing this save game editor being thrown about.  The save game editor is not officially supported by Bioware and they are on record as saying any use of the save game editor could cause problems with importing games into Mass Effect 3.

Elite Midget wrote... Edit: Too bad I lack others who would uphold Justice alongside me.

I am quite happy to see no one else here shares your need for vengence.  That is after all what you want isn't it ?  You want PC/360 users to suffer loss of content because PS3 users suffered the same thing.  Seriously you need to discover what is "justice" and what is "vengence".

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 23 décembre 2010 - 08:41 .

[Assasin4Hire]

PS3 owners have had the option to play ME1 for years:

It's called the PC

[shinobi602]

Assasin4Hire wrote...

PS3 owners have had the option to play ME1 for years:
It's called the PC

PS3 =/= PC ....................

[iggy4566]

Assasin4Hire wrote...

PS3 owners have had the option to play ME1 for years:
It's called the PC

Not everyone has a gaming rig.

[matt-bassist]

www.youtube.com/watch
Seriously, who didn't see this coming? <_<

Modifié par matt-bassist, 23 décembre 2010 - 10:12 .

[charmingcharlie]

iggy4566 wrote...
Not everyone has a gaming rig.

You do not need a gaming PC (I hate the term rig) to play Mass Effect 1, the specs to run that game are so ridiculously low that if your PC cannot run it then you should be considering junking your 10 year old PC anyway.  A low end dual core PC with a £50 graphics card will easily run ME 1 at similar settings to the xbox 360.

Although I agree saying "buy blah blah platform if you want it" is the wrong thing to say. At least you had a choice on which platform to play Mass Effect on.  If you didn't particularly like tthe xbox 360 then you didn't have to play Mass Effect on the xbox 360.

[didymos1120]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Originally the PC/360 version was going to give you the ability to tell ME 2 what decisions you made in ME 1.  At the beginning of the game there is a short shuttle ride and in that part you were going to be given the ability to tell the game what choices you made in Mass Effect 1. 

Not true.  There's exactly ONE choice that occurs during the shuttle ride: Anderson or Udina.  And that's due to a bug with the special ME1 endgame saves: the game writes them to disk before you pick the Councilor.  On the PC, if you use the save editor to flag your choice, it'll actually skip that question and go right to the "Landing at TIM's pad" part. 

[-Skorpious-]

Elite Midget wrote...

Justice never gets tire when presented against the injustices of greed, laziness, and hatred. Someone needs to speak for the ones wronged.

By more 'options' you mean more 'options' for 'just' PC/360 owners.

I don't remember the 360/pc "fans" making that big of a deal over the comic. Some yes, but not that much at all. My point is, BW decided to add the comic as a nice bonus to fans of all platforms; I know I would rather use the comic to fix a single mistake in my character than play the game all over again for my 7+ characters.

Besides, MS is the true injustice here - they would never let BW re-release ME on the PS3. BW is simplybeing nice to all sides of the platform war.