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[Heretical]

I'm happy for anyone who is going to exercise the option. I dont plan on it and I didny in DA:O but this game is meant to provide a customizable role-playing experience for everyone, not conform to political correctness or the views of the average bigot.

[DaySeeker]

 Happiness and joy. (my reaction)

[Ramus Quaritch]

I'm fine with it. It makes the game more inclusive and recognizes a group of people who are more often than not excluded from things. I personally prefer heterosexual romances, but I'm glad the variety of options are there.

Modifié par Ramus Quaritch, 24 décembre 2010 - 02:59 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

jesuno wrote...
Immersion breaking? So you have never been hit on by a gay guy? They are out there, lerking in the shadows.

On a serious note, gay/lesbian gamers do exist. Given that this is not a linear story with a predefined protagonist, should they not have the rights as us straight gamers?

Can't say that I have. And what guy is going to hit on a badass in full plate and an armory worth of weapons? Somebody who isn't thinking clearly.

There is no "right" to have a gay LI. Their only right is the same as everyone elses which is that they own the game they spent money for. Yet I'll buy the game anyway so it's just a minor annoyance. I'm just sure there will be more "we demand this pre-established character to be gay" topics.

Ziggeh wrote...
Wow, now that's a potent little ball of bile and ignorance.

Hey now I wouldn't talk about yourself like that. Not good for your mental health.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:01 .

[defiantwolf]

I'm very happy to hear that BioWare decided to include s/s romances. I would have played DA II either way, but having this option makes it much more enjoyable. 

[upsettingshorts]

ReconTeam wrote...

Can't say that I have. And what guy is going to hit on a badass in full plate and an armory worth of weapons? Somebody who isn't thinking clearly.

So you're saying that your response to being approached in such a way is to react violently?  Well then.  To change the subject entirely, anyone want to go to the Christmas wish thread and second my request for a proper ignore feature? 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:02 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
So you're saying that your response to being approached in such a way is to react violently?  Well then.  To change the subject entirely, anyone want to go to the Christmas wish thread and second my request for a proper ignore feature? 

No I'm saying that your brains must be broken if your a man and you hit on a guy who doesn't take crap from anyone, kills things and burns towns for a living, and generally looks like somebody you don't want to mess with. It's common sense if your concerned about your health. It would be like asking a gang member a really stupid question. You don't know how he's going to react so your not going to do it. Common people acting like they don't care about their physical well-being is not very immersive.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:09 .

[Ziggeh]

ReconTeam wrote...

Hey now I wouldn't talk about yourself like that. Not good for your mental health.

"I know you are but what am I"? Really?

[jesuno]

ReconTeam wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
So you're saying that your response to being approached in such a way is to react violently?  Well then.  To change the subject entirely, anyone want to go to the Christmas wish thread and second my request for a proper ignore feature? 

No I'm saying that your brains must be broken if your a man and you hit on a guy who doesn't take crap from anyone, kills things and burns towns for a living, and generally looks like somebody you don't want to mess with. It's common sense if your concerned about your health. It would be like asking a gang member a really stupid question. You don't know how he's going to react so your not going to do it.

http://www.imdb.com/...22304/nm0001369

Roc was gay. And he could probably take out a bunch of guys. So how does sexuality relate to badassness?

[Selene Moonsong]

ReconTeam wrote...

Can't say that I have. And what guy is going to hit on a badass in full plate and an armory worth of weapons? Somebody who isn't thinking clearly.

For the same reasons women may be attracted to such a male, perhaps?

... Their only right is the same as everyone elses which is that they own the game they spent money for.

A misconception, there, no one who buys the game owns it, Those who buy the game are granted a licsense to play the game.

Hey now I wouldn't talk about yourself like that. Not good for your mental health.

{Mod Hat On} 
Let's not be insulting towards fellow community members...
{Mod Hat Off}

[Inquisitor Recon]

Ziggeh wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Hey now I wouldn't talk about yourself like that. Not good for your mental health.

"I know you are but what am I"? Really?

Is that the best you can do? I'm sorry if I'm not acting politically correct enough for your tastes my lord.

[Heretical]

I wasn't aware gay men would randomly approach Hawke and start flirting.

[upsettingshorts]

ReconTeam wrote...

No I'm saying that your brains must be broken if your a man and you hit on a guy who doesn't take crap from anyone, kills things and burns towns for a living, and generally looks like somebody you don't want to mess with. It's common sense if your concerned about your health. It would be like asking a gang member a really stupid question. You don't know how he's going to react so your not going to do it. Common people acting like they don't care about their physical well-being is not very immersive.

But it'd be okay for a woman's health to do so?  That's what you're saying, right?

[Inquisitor Recon]

jesuno wrote...
Roc was gay. And he could probably take out a bunch of guys. So how does sexuality relate to badassness?

But did guys go around hitting on him? No becuase if your a badass and your gay, you're the one hitting on same-gendered people, not vice-versa. You don't ask somebody who may kick your ass a potentially offensive or rude quesiton. I don't see what is so offensive about that.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:15 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
But it'd be okay for a woman's health to do so?  That's what you're saying, right?

That is the way the world works.

[Heretical]

The world of DA =/= to Earth.

[upsettingshorts]

ReconTeam wrote...

That is the way the world works.

This was posted in a different thread, but it applies to your post too:

Upsettingshorts wrote...

People will try to relate real-world prejudices and expectations to Thedas despite a lack of evidence that such a connection exists.

I think in your case an emphasis on "prejudices" would be appropriate.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:22 .

[Sith Grey Warden]

ReconTeam wrote...

And what guy is going to hit on a badass in full plate and an armory worth of weapons?

Just because there is an s/s option does not mean that gay men will be hitting on Hawke. With the possible exception of Zevran (in whose case it made sense based on his characterization), that did not happen in Origins, and we have no evidence that it will in DA 2.

As for my reaction to s/s romance being confirmed? I didn't think it needed confirming, especially with Isabella there. I would have been slightly disappointed if it was left out, but not terribly.

[Ramus Quaritch]

Gay people do take a risk if they hit on someone of the same gender that they do not know. The person being hit on could react very badly. I hate to bring this up, but look at what happened with Matthew Shepard. He got in the car with the wrong people. It sickens me that things like that can happen and I hope that people in general are more respectful and would politely refuse if they do not accept the advances. You or I could not possible know what that is like.

Modifié par Ramus Quaritch, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:28 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
This was posted in a different thread, but it applies to your post too:

People will try to relate real-world prejudices and expectations to Thedas despite a lack of evidence that such a connection exists.

I think in your case an emphasis on "prejudices" would be appropriate.

So not wanting something makes me prejudiced and ignorant? Good to know. So what was the point of this topic exactly? Praise is only acceptable and if you don't like it your ignorant?

I don't see why that aspect of the real world wouldn't carry over to Thedas. You've got what you wanted from Bioware and I fail to see how not wanting immersion breaking behavior from NPCs is such a crime.

[Ziggeh]

Sith Grey Warden wrote...

With the possible exception of Zevran (in whose case it made sense based on his characterization), that did not happen in Origins, and we have no evidence that it will in DA 2.

Indeed, given the negative response to his boldness I would imagine it would be something they'd seek to avoid.

[Xilizhra]

ReconTeam wrote...

It's a waste of development time, and I'm totally against it, but I'm going to buy the game anyway. Yep... Just don't have guys everywhere hitting on male Hawke and other immersion breaking nonsense.

But politically correct stuff like this isn't going to do a thing to appease those demanding this sort of thing. They're just going to move onto the next thing.

How is this a waste of development time? Are you just against romances in general?

[Xilizhra]

Also, the idea of risk is... questionable, given that the people likely to be asking about it are fellow party members, i.e. people about as dangerous as Hawke.

[Ziggy]

Very pleased, though I always thought they would given da:o