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#126
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Granted, they represent a small majority of the overall people I've known but the claim women are less violent is something I find unlikely.

Open aggressiveness is a male trait; I find men tend to be more aggressive in attitude but generally more bluster than action.


Empirically, women are as openly aggresive as men. They are just relationally aggresive, i.e. they will gossip, they will turn your friends against you, they will smear your reputation, etc. Whereas men are more prone to direct aggresion. And this seems to be a cultural thing, because in longitudinal studies it doesn't crop up with very young children, who haven't internalized cultural norms.

But empirically speaking men are far more prone to violence than women, and far more likely to directly aggress. And that's also the stereotype.

Again - I am not saying women do these things. But this is a stereotype, and if we are talking about impressions of someone we know absolutely nothing about beyond the fact she has muscular arms and is an S&S warrior, that's what people are reduced to.

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I don't like Isabella because she's slept with every man she's met.
I don't like Aveline because she looks like conny the barbarian


Those are bad things?

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Its true, well not to be rude to ladies or men who are offended by this but men usually get into a fight and then usually its done, women however seem to argue, and backstab and hold a grudge for a long time. At least thats how it seems to be. None the less we all have our faults.

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i pretty sure there are going to be some more companions

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slimgrin wrote...

What is this wrote...

I don't like Isabella because she's slept with every man she's met.
I don't like Aveline because she looks like conny the barbarian


Those are bad things?

Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?

#131
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In Exile wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Perhaps in the real world. In a video game, violence is gender neutral.

But if we're talking about impressions, it's the real world that matters.


If that were the case, we'd view the average action hero as a psychotic killer.

Fictional characters are judged by the worlds they inhabit. Thedas is a world where your grey-haired mother dons leather armor, grabs her swords, and defends the castle from invaders.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Perhaps in the real world. In a video game, violence is gender neutral.

But if we're talking about impressions, it's the real world that matters.


If that were the case, we'd view the average action hero as a psychotic killer.

Fictional characters are judged by the worlds they inhabit. Thedas is a world where your grey-haired mother dons leather armor, grabs her swords, and defends the castle from invaders.

A US Marine is not a pychopathic murderer!
Nor is anyone who fights for more than emotion

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What is this wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

What is this wrote...

I don't like Isabella because she's slept with every man she's met.
I don't like Aveline because she looks like conny the barbarian


Those are bad things?

Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?


Ummm, I think both Morrigan and Leliana were both "plowed" as many times as Isabella.

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Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?

I don't think all guys are as shallow and immature as you.

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jesuno wrote...

What is this wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

What is this wrote...

I don't like Isabella because she's slept with every man she's met.
I don't like Aveline because she looks like conny the barbarian


Those are bad things?

Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?


Ummm, I think both Morrigan and Leliana were both "plowed" as many times as Isabella.

No,
I don't even remember morrigan saying she ever had sex.

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Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?


You're first point is too easy to turn on it's head so I won't bother. As for your second point, no, I don't find women who look like men attractive, but I suspect we've seen Aveline in progress and she may well look more feminine in the final game. 

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Atakuma wrote...

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Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?

I don't think all guys are as shallow and immature as you.

It's shallow to not want a girl who is "skanky" as one put it?
or find a woman unattractive?

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jesuno wrote...

What is this wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

What is this wrote...

I don't like Isabella because she's slept with every man she's met.
I don't like Aveline because she looks like conny the barbarian


Those are bad things?

Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?


Ummm, I think both Morrigan and Leliana were both "plowed" as many times as Isabella.

Ah, but do we know if they've ever been involved in a foursome? No. & what is not known does not exist.

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slimgrin wrote...

What is this wrote...

Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?


You're first point is too easy to turn on it's head so I won't bother. As for your second point, no, I don't find women who look like men attractive, but I suspect we've seen Aveline in progress and she may well look more feminine in the final game. 

it's 4 months away
nothing is going to be drastically altered ingame.

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How can I get any joy out of these women if I roleplay my character as Mathew Hopkins.



Sure I can Frank Booth em, but that would be too easy, I'd rather save that for the guys.

#141
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No,
I don't even remember morrigan saying she ever had sex.


If you go the friend Male option with her, she states that she has taken many men to bed. So, yes?

Modifié par jesuno, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:12 .


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I'd hit it.

Sadly, Aveline would hit back.

Probably harder.

My poor Lady Hawke would end up eating her teeth just because she offered to comfort Aveline in her time of need.

Aermas wrote...

Ah, but do we know if they've ever been involved in a foursome? No. & what is not known does not exist.


Liliana could give Zevran and Isabela a run for their money when it comes to sexual history.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:14 .


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jesuno wrote...

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No,
I don't even remember morrigan saying she ever had sex.


If you go the friend Male option with her, she states that she has taken many men to bed. So, yes?

hm never knew that but i doubt she has anywhere near Isabellas promescuity.

#144
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If that were the case, we'd view the average action hero as a psychotic killer.


Well, it depends. We make a rather strong distiction between ''in-self defence'' and not. Is Bruce Willis in Die Hard psychotic?

I don't think so. When it comes to taking a life, intent matters.

Fictional characters are judged by the worlds they inhabit. Thedas is a world where your grey-haired mother dons leather armor, grabs her swords, and defends the castle from invaders.


Ferelden is that sort of place, rather. Apparently in Orlais the norm doesn't apply (at least from what I recall your mother saying in that skit).

I do see your point in terms of judging characters in virtue of their setting, and if we were speaking in any meaningful sense about Aveline's character, I would agree. But we aren't. We're talking about our impression.

If all we say from Die Hard was Bruce Willis's yippe ka whatever line, and then him putting a few bullet holes in people, he would absolutely look like a psychotic killer.

It is the same thing with Aveline. Her apperance, plus her introduction, push one particular impression.

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No,
I don't even remember morrigan
saying she ever had sex.


...She spoke about how she seduced Chasid men.

#145
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Ah, but do we know if they've ever been involved in a foursome? No. & what is not known does not exist.


For Leliana, yes. That's the only way you can get the foursome, I think.

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Donald Sutherland could seduce Chasind men, its nothing to be proud of

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Atakuma wrote...

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Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?

I don't think all guys are as shallow and immature as you.

It's shallow to not want a girl who is "skanky" as one put it?
or find a woman unattractive?



...How come Isafeia is skanky, exactly? Just because she has a active sex life?

#148
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No,
I don't even remember morrigan saying she ever had sex.


If you go the friend Male option with her, she states that she has taken many men to bed. So, yes?

hm never knew that but i doubt she has anywhere near Isabellas promescuity.


Whatever you want to think, but she was raised by Flemeth. She had quite the run before you got her.

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Dhiro wrote...

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Atakuma wrote...

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Are you serious?
Do you really think any guy wants a girl who's been plowed 1000 times?
or one that looks like a man?

I don't think all guys are as shallow and immature as you.

It's shallow to not want a girl who is "skanky" as one put it?
or find a woman unattractive?



...How come Isafeia is skanky, exactly? Just because she has a active sex life?

active sex life=/= Sleeping with 100 diffrent men

It's not lots of sex i have a problem with,
it's sex with a lot of diffrent partners.

#150
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...How come Isafeia is skanky, exactly? Just because she has a active sex life?


Well, there was that one time at the Pearl. But I've purged that:whistle: