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[Gibb_Shepard]

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
Because that's not Ashley.  It's Liara.  Neither Ashley nor Kaidan can appear in the prologue sequence of the PS3 version.  The ME1 recap comic doesn't kick in until you've gotten to character creation, meaning  PS3 players have no prior romance or Virmire choice recorded for the game to use in determining who appears.  And, for whatever reason, they decided not to stick with default for new characters on the PC/360 of Kaidan for FemShep and Ash for MShep. 

But the prologue has Shepard.  And they'd need to have a definitive sex for Shepard.

You choose your sex before the game even starts

[didymos1120]

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

But the prologue has Shepard.  And they'd need to have a definitive sex for Shepard.

Yeah, and?  Selecting "New game" immediately brings you to choosing your sex (or to import on PC/360), then difficulty selection and whether to autosave, etc.,  and then you get the intro sequence.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 décembre 2010 - 11:30 .

[didymos1120]

Sethal wrote...

For the Demo they use high compression resulting in smaller file size, or would you want to download 6 or 7gigs? That is why it is blurry and pixelated.

Yeah, see, the thing is, the entire game plus all the DLC released so far is about 18 GiB.  So, 6-7 gigs would be significantly over a full third of the game (probably closer to half, really) not just the Prologue/Lazarus Station and Mordin's recruitment, which is what's in the demo, even if you take the "Previously on ME" video into account.  That's not saying they didn't compress some data for the demo, but it is saying that they probably didn't compress it all that much.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 décembre 2010 - 12:04 .

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

didymos1120 wrote...

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

But the prologue has Shepard.  And they'd need to have a definitive sex for Shepard.

Yeah, and?  Selecting "New game" immediately brings you to choosing your sex (or to import on PC/360), then difficulty selection and whether to autosave, etc.,  and then you get the intro sequence.

It seems to have the comic before this.  Otherwise you won't get any insight into what is going on with the Normandy, who the Geth and Reapers are, etc.

The intro sequence with Miranda also mentions whether you saved the Council or not.  So you'd need to make that decision before the intro too, right?

[didymos1120]

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...
The intro sequence with Miranda also mentions whether you saved the Council or not.  So you'd need to make that decision before the intro too, right?

Hmm, yeah.  I wonder why it's been reported that the comic doesn't come in until after the Prologue.  That clearly won't work, unless they don't let PS3 players choose the fate of the Council, which I highly doubt.

ETA:  See, here's how Kotaku described it:

The brief digital comic starts shortly after the playable introduction to Mass Effect 2 on the PS3. That introduction won’t surprise Xbox 360 and PC players who have been able to experience it since the second Mass Effect game launched in January of this year, but let’s not ruin things for Sony-only players. A PlayStation 3 gamer will start the game, pick a gender and look for their version of the series’ hero Commander Shepard, will play the opening sequence and then reach the comic.

Maybe in the full PS3 game, they cut that bit of dialogue out of that scene.  One of TIM's lines would have to go to (well, two, since there's one for each outcome).   In the demo, it's the Renegade variant.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 décembre 2010 - 12:22 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Forsythia wrote...

I think (some) PS3 users are raging because ME2 on PS3 isn't significantly better than the 360 version. They expected it to blow the 360 version completely out of the water. You know, "The power of Cell!", "Magnificent Blu-ray!", "blabla!"

Come on, did they really expect he game to be that different from the 360 version? Really?

Omg you're right. I loveand have  the ps3 but im not stupid like the other fanboys(xbots and psf@gs).

I hate it when PS3  fanboys go 'but !t h2z cell11leetspeek11!11!!1oneone" or "256xram > 4gb of pc ram because its Xram' or crap like 'uncharted 2 is 10x more detailed than crysis therefore ps3 > all".

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

didymos1120 wrote...

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...
The intro sequence with Miranda also mentions whether you saved the Council or not.  So you'd need to make that decision before the intro too, right?

Hmm, yeah.  I wonder why it's been reported that the comic doesn't come in until after the Prologue.  That clearly won't work, unless they don't let PS3 players choose the fate of the Council, which I highly doubt.

Who reported that it came after the Prologue?  I wonder if that is just a rumor rather than confirmed by Bioware.


EDIT:  Maybe Kotaku played the demo, which apparently does have the comic after the prologue? 

Modifié par HappyHappyJoyJoy, 23 décembre 2010 - 12:26 .

[didymos1120]

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...
Who reported that it came after the Prologue?  I wonder if that is just a rumor rather than confirmed by Bioware. 

Kotaku.  See my edit above.  The guy actually got to see it demonstrated at a recent Sony event, but it's still possible he misunderstood the placement.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 décembre 2010 - 12:25 .

[WidowMaker9394]

Damn, that was disappointing.

[didymos1120]

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...
EDIT:  Maybe Kotaku played the demo, which apparently does have the comic after the prologue? 

Uh, no.  The demo doesn't have the comic at all.  Also, IGN is saying the same thing:

Sandwiched between the opening cutscene of the game and the character customization screen is an "interactive back story comic."

ETA:

Aaaaand so is Joystiq:

The comic is also not the first thing you experience in the game -- you'll have to play Mass Effect 2's
impactful intro sequence first. The comic book sequence takes place in-between Shepard's first encounter with the enigmatic Collectors and his arrival at the Cerberus station. (If you opt not to download and install the comic DLC, the game will continue as it did in the original version.)"

So, this is unlikely to be a mistake. My guess: if you've installed the comic, since it is DLC, it alters the opening scene with TIM and Miranda so the Council dialogue is dropped.

Also, I should note that, "after the Prologue" was incorrect on my part.  Or imprecise, rather.  Technically, the Collector attack, Lazarus station, the meeting with TIM, Freedom's Progress and the intro and tour of the Normandy SR-2 are all considered part of the Prologue.  All the game files for those sequences are prefixed with "pro[something]. E.g. "profre" for Freedom's Progress data.

Anyway, the comic happens after the attack on the Normandy.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 décembre 2010 - 12:45 .

[massive_effect]

Xerxes52 wrote...

Wow, the 360 version blows the PS3 out of the water (the facial textures in the PS3 version look like crap imo).

Shadows and lighting look much better in the 360 version as well. And Miranda's eyes don't have that reflection (like a normal eye would) in the PS3 version.

Miranda looks like she has cataracts in the PS3 version.

[Kail Ashton]

Not sure if this threads trolly or just fan whiney, on the one hand it does have troll coments bout systems yet the otherhand it also has completly inane complaints about stuff 99% of the human race wouldn't care about(and would likely get your face shoved in a toilette for discussing in public), you guys are tricky when you want to be.

Modifié par Kail Ashton, 23 décembre 2010 - 01:24 .

[JrayM16]

This thread may be the worst thread I have ever seen. Not sure why it still exists.

[iggy4566]

JrayM16 wrote...

This thread may be the worst thread I have ever seen. Not sure why it still exists.

This thread is full of PC/360 people ****ing about a demo that isnt the full version of the game. The thing with fanboys/girls is that they just ruin everything with platform elitism.

[Zatwu]

The XBox360 textures on the faces are noticeably sharper but if you look closely its easier to see that they are a mass of pixels as the colors contrast with each other much more than on the PS3 version. Whereas the lighting seems to have a much greater effect on the surrounding environment, IMHO a bit too much. Its why Ashley looks orange in one of the PS3 screenshots and why Shepard looks paler than most zombies in the shot of him waking up.

But there really seem to be a lot of fan's of one console or the other bashing each other. Something that you should understand is neither Microsoft or Sony actually cares about you personally no matter how much you flame their competitor. Personally  I don't think the graphical change is enough to base buying the game on. Overall I'd say having ME1 is probably more fun than an interactive comic, but if you don't have or don't plan to get ME1 then you might as well get the PS3 one and save money on DLC.

Modifié par Zatwu, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:22 .

[didymos1120]

Zatwu wrote...

 Its why Ashley looks orange in one of the PS3 screenshots and why Shepard looks paler than most zombies in the shot of him waking up.

It's not Ashley.  It's Liara.  For some reason, the comparison used a shot of Ash from the 360 and compared it to Liara on the PS3.  Ashley can't even appear in that scene on the PS3, nor can Kaidan. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:24 .

[Sursion]

Played the PS3 version. It is superior in quite a few ways. You can reference reviewers nobodies ever heard of all you want, it won't change the facts.

[Elite Midget]

Well, Ashley is the default since most Shepards are male and Kaiden was downgraded to wearing Ashleys pink armor. I question the lack of AShley/Kaiden in the intro and even more Liara. Bioware is really pushing Liara at the cost of everyone.



This should show that Bioware will not bring any of the killable Squaddies back from any of the games and will push a new Squad + Liara for ME3.

[XidZen]

It looks like X360 version is little bit better - ****ty UE3 is ****ty :/

I hope BioWare will back someday to makeing their own engine like Aurora.

Still they made great port - no other studio made such a similar version.

[Sparda16]

This demo is a real disapointment.

[Matt VT Schlo]

Played the PS3 demo, and compared that to my 360 version. For my money, 360 is still a more consistent gameplay experience. Smoother, without framerate hiccups or minor screen tear, all present on the PS3 demo. That said, demo has nice character model work. I'll stick with the 360 version though

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Okay, I gotta be honest... I own all 3 consoles this gen, and like them all equally. And IMO, the PS3 ME2 Demo looked great. I noticed no screen-tearing at the beginning, the graphics looked sharper, and the framerate appeared to be higher than the 360 Version. My ONLY complaint is that the lighting is too bright in some areas, and too dark in others, so I had to do some adjustments.



To all the folks who aren't Xbots and are legitimately experiencing blurry graphics, make sure that you have 720p set as an option under Display Settings. Alot of people don't know this, but if you have your PS3 only set to display in 1080i/p and play a game that doesn't support anything over 720p, then your PS3 defaults to displaying the game in 480i.

[Matt VT Schlo]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

To all the folks who aren't Xbots and are legitimately experiencing blurry graphics, make sure that you have 720p set as an option under Display Settings. Alot of people don't know this, but if you have your PS3 only set to display in 1080i/p and play a game that doesn't support anything over 720p, then your PS3 defaults to displaying the game in 480i.

That is news to me....will have to check it out. Thanks

[didymos1120]

Elite Midget wrote...

 Bioware is really pushing Liara at the cost of everyone.

Oh, quiet you: there's a good reason.  On the PS3, they can't start with Kaidan or Ash, because you get to kill one of them in the comic that comes AFTER that part.  Hope that helps!

[Atmosfear3]

Visually, the 360 version looks better. As for FPS, PS3 is definitely smoother (I own both systems). The PS3 version is locked at 30 FPS whereas the 360 version appears to be 25 or lower. All in all, I'll stick with the 360 version since I own that one first.