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[Tsiper29]

 Congrats Bioware you are all RPG and STORY TELLING GODS!!!!!!  I voted Mass Effect 2 for game of the year everywhere I could.  I can't wait to see what else you do with the Mass Effect Universe.  YOU ROCK!!!!!:whistle:

[Sable Rhapsody]

BioWare, you awesome.



That is all This was a great year for games, and with ME3 coming out next year along with oodles of other fantastic titles, next year will be even better.

[InvaderErl]

It just won Giant Bomb's GOTY and their best multi-platform as well.

[archurban]

RDR has disadvantage over ME 2. because it is only console game. total awards ME 2 is way over RDR.

[InvaderErl]

ME2 is actually racking up the most GOTY awards is it not?



I know RDR got Gamespot and VGA but ME2's gotten everything else that I can see.

[stryder25]

Deserves all of these it gets. =D

[Macheena]

@William Adama: I respect that you don't like the game (or modern games in general) but you cannot say that a lot of other hardcore gamers feel the same way. I don't think of myself as a casual gamer and I really love Mass Effect but I won't say that every gamer should feel the same way. You mentioned KOTOR's persuasion option to evade conflicts - the same is present in Mass Effect, only that not every aggressive option ends up in putting you in a combat situations which, if you think about it, makes more sense (e.g. what kind of threat would a lone soldier pose in a combat - instead, you kick him out of the window). Besides, as much as I enjoyed KOTOR (especially it's story), what bothered me the most was that piling up dark or light side points resulted in just about nothing (except for the cool aura on the character screen) - if you spent points in Persuasion, you could get away in any situation, regardless of your Dark / Light side. In my opinion, that is handled much more elegantly in Mass Effect where Paragon or Renegade actually matters. Still, there is room for improvement - if there would be no moralization (no good / bad meter) but on the other hand the game would store the type of decisions you make and offer you choices based on that, then that would be just awesome beyond words. That's why I'm really interested how the DA2 system will do because it promises just that. But, given the fact that it's a BioWare game, I'm positive that it will be great. And we are getting a bit off-topic as this thread was created for the awards and debating those - there are plenty of ME2 opinions' threads already.

@InvaderErl: the Giant Bomb awards are already on the list.

Modifié par Macheena, 02 janvier 2011 - 07:41 .

[bjdbwea]

This says more about the (lack of) competition than it does about the game itself. Though there was at least NV, which in my opinion certainly deserves the title of "Game of the Year" more than ME 2. Alpha Protocol has its flaws, but as far as the story and several other important factors are concerned, it easily beats ME 2 too. And I say that as someone whose favorite game is ME 1. LotSB would certainly deserve the title of best DLC though.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 02 janvier 2011 - 07:20 .

[Catsith]

bjdbwea wrote...

This says more about the (lack of) competition than it does about the game itself. Though there was at least NV, which in my opinion certainly deserves the title of "Game of the Year" more than ME 2. Alpha Protocol has its flaws, but as far as the story and several other important factors are concerned, it easily beats ME 2 too. And I say that as someone whose favorite game is ME 1. LotSB would certainly deserve the title of best DLC though.

I liked some things AP did, but if it was better overall than ME2, it'd be getting all kinds of awards. The only awards I've seen it get are most disappointing, and rightly so. It could have been Obsidian's equivalent of the ME franchise, but they completely screwed it up. The few good things the game did are just not enough. ME2 is far from perfect, but as a complete game, it's leagues ahead of Alpha Protocol. F:NV also hasnt gotten many awards because it was horrendously buggy, and they don't re-review games after a big patch comes out months later, so it had no chance.

I think ME2 deserves its awards.. although my personal GOTY would be Starcraft 2. But anyway, grats to Bioware. 

[bjdbwea]

ME 2 got better scores than AP and NV

a) because the name BioWare is written on the box

because EA is clever in marketing and PR

and

c) because many reviewers these days care more about shiny graphics and "streamlined" action! than they do about inner values (story, dialogue, decisions, RPG elements) of the games. Granted, a large part of gamers these days have similar priorities, but another large part obviously doesn't, which is probably why NV sold better than ME 2 despite any reviews. AP apparently didn't sell so well though, but undeservedly. I for one was surprised by how good that game is, and it told me once again not to put much stock into any reviews (or GotY nominations for that matter), especially not from people who are paid to play the game instead of paying to play the game.

By the way, NV doesn't have nearly as much bugs as some people seem to think. But even if it has its share of bugs, I'd rather play a complex game with a few bugs than a polished game with little depth.

Is this still on-topic? I would say it is, because if the discussion is about ME 2 as the GotY, the alternatives needs to be mentioned too.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 02 janvier 2011 - 09:33 .

[Tamahome560]

ME2 deserved every award that it got and It should have beaten RDR at VGA's. Congratulations Bioware!



Alpha Protocol had a great story, choices and consequences and some interesting characters but bugs and very poor gameplay have held it back. Also the graphics were a bit outdated but that wasn't a major problem.

[Catsith]

bjdbwea wrote...

ME 2 got better scores than AP and NV

a) because the name BioWare is written on the box

because EA is clever in marketing and PR

and

c) because many reviewers these days care more about shiny graphics and "streamlined" action! than they do about inner values (story, dialogue, decisions, RPG elements) of the games. Granted, a large part of gamers these days have similar priorities, but another large part obviously doesn't, which is probably why NV sold better than ME 2 despite any reviews. AP apparently didn't sell so well though, but undeservedly. I for one was surprised by how good that game is, and it told me once again not to put much stock into any reviews (or GotY nominations for that matter), especially not from people who are paid to play the game instead of paying to play the game.

By the way, NV doesn't have nearly as much bugs as some people seem to think. But even if it has its share of bugs, I'd rather play a complex game with a few bugs than a polished game with little depth.

Is this still on-topic? I would say it is, because if the discussion is about ME 2 as the GotY, the alternatives needs to be mentioned too.

Well, you can think whatever you want. Sounds like you're a little bitter though. 'BioWare' being on the box has nothing to do with the game's quality, and I'm not sure what EA's marketing has to do with it either. Plenty of games get heavily marketed to sites and end up getting bad reviews. Alpha Protocol had tons of promotions and giveaways and encouraging previews from sites that destroyed it in their reviews, same with F:NV. ME2 would have received the same treatment. AP was janky and ugly, and F:NV was inexcusably buggy, and that's all there is to it. I enjoyed them, especially F:NV, but I would never give any awards to game that I literally had to check the Wiki's bug section to figure out how to bypass many quests (including several that completely prevented the story from advancing), and I'm glad all the mainstream sites agree.

Modifié par Catsith, 02 janvier 2011 - 09:50 .

[InvaderErl]

Not to mention in pretty much every reader poll ME2 has either come in #1 or #2, its not just the critics but gamers who are giving the game a big ol' thumbs up.

As for Alpha Protocol, I couldn't even get past the damn hacking mini-game tutorial on the PC version for the longest because the controls were so utterly bad. Not to mention the framerate was pretty jumpy on a PC that can run Crysis, ME2 or whatever with ease. That's broken on a fundamental level.

If there was a decent game there it was buried under TONS of crap and anyone who holds THAT up as some kind of example of what the genre should aspire to I say no.

Just no.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 02 janvier 2011 - 10:33 .

[Gerudan]

I just saw the awards on Gametrailers. The Soundtrack alone is still enough to sends cold shivers down my spine. Its just such a great game and definitely my personal GOTY, too, closely followed by RDR.

[InvaderErl]

I'm playing RDR right now and its pretty damned good as well.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 02 janvier 2011 - 10:57 .

[Dionkey]

Man I can't help but look down on the GT for having any affiliation with spike and the vgas after I saw Angry Joes interview with Geoff Keeley. Anyway, glad to see they won almost 40 awards so far. Can't wait to see the GDC Awards.

[sinosleep]

Looks like more if it doesn't support my point it doesn't count nonsense

[Tamahome560]

@InvaderErl Thanks for reminding me how bad the hacking minigame was in AP due to bad bad controls.



And more GOTY awards coming

[Macheena]

 Yep, just uploaded a whole load (25!) of awards from VGChartz.

[DJBare]

It means nothing if ME3 does not deliver, but I'm very hopefull



Congrats all the same to Bioware.

[Fredvdp]

I personally think the Spike VGAs should not be taken seriously by anyone and should be removed from the original post, even if BioWare won some of their awards. I think the list would be more credible if you only included respectable sources.

[sinosleep]

Macheena wrote...

 Yep, just uploaded a whole load (25!) of awards from VGChartz.

TWENTY FIVE? How many awards to those guys give away? 

[William Adama]

Fredvdp wrote...

I personally think the Spike VGAs should not be taken seriously by anyone and should be removed from the original post, even if BioWare won some of their awards. I think the list would be more credible if you only included respectable sources.

So let's not take an awards show seriously because they didn't give ME2 GOTY? Have you even played Red Dead ? The amount of effort put into that western simulation is insane. Rockstar puts so much polish into their games it's rediculous. 

ME2 doesn't have anywhere near the polish that RDR has, and if you played the game you would see that from the get-go.  The question of whether ME2 had a better story or not is up in the air... HOWEVER, the ending of RDR absolutely DESTROYS the ending of ME2. It's the variation RDR had alongisde with carrying spectacular gfx and gameplay that made RDR GOTY.

It wasn't a corridor shooter like ME2. It wasn't a planet mining minigame like ME2.

It was 20 games put into one, AND it had multiplayer ALL ON ONE GAME DISC. You guys are such Bioware fanboys, not giving a quality product like RDR the recognition it deserves.

Modifié par William Adama, 04 janvier 2011 - 09:13 .

[sinosleep]

I don't think RDR had anything to do with Frevdp's post. A LOT of people feel that the VGAs have no credibility due to how the advertising around it functions, the people who make up the advisory (WHY are USA Today and Entertainment Weekly there?) board , etc, etc, etc.

[EDIT HERE] I should clarify I'm not advocating for the removal of ANY awards from the OP. I was just presenting another side to the arguement.

Modifié par sinosleep, 04 janvier 2011 - 10:19 .

[Severyx]

64 awards in less than a year? Holy crap.

Congrats, Bioware. It's well-deserved.