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[Tyrant Wrex]

AwesomeName wrote...

@Tyrant Wrex, I refer you back to my post you're quoting then I'd copy and paste it again and make a nice big circle but it wouldn't be fair on the forum's server!

Fair enough, I rest my case.

[Rekkampum]

Missouri Tigers wrote...

Honestly, I want to see what happens with the Reapers and the rest of the galaxy.  I want to fight to defend the galaxy.  I really hope the teaser trailer represents a very tiny part of the game, hopefully just the tutorial mission or something.  There's nothing worse than a sci-fi game or movie that comes up with some really stupid reason for Earth to be the main focus of an enemy's attack. 

Go Shepard.

[adam_grif]

human were special since ME:revelations so...

Would you care to elaborate on that statement?

Modifié par adam_grif, 23 décembre 2010 - 03:35 .

[DaVanguard]

beating the turians, have anderson almost become a specter, alliances expansion into skillian verge

[adam_grif]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

I find it hilarious that people have been saying they want to see earth since the first game and now that they're going to, they're complaining about it.

It's not that simple. Two kinds of people are pissed off:

1. The people who are complaining that the game is focussing on Earth, because it continues the humans-are-special idiocy.
2. People who are complaining that they aren't getting to see Earth during it's peak, they only get to see it after it's been ruined by Reapers already. If they wanted to visit a post apocalpytic wasteland, they would just land on Tuchanka again.

beating the turians

They didn't beat the Turians, they won a minor battle because the Turians thought they had already destroyed the human fleet, and if the council hadn't stopped the Turians early, the Alliance would have been crushed under their boot.

have anderson almost become a specter,

Which indicates what? That they have soldiers as good as other races? So what?

alliances expansion into skillian verge

Backed by the council, because the council hates Batarians, yes.

Modifié par adam_grif, 23 décembre 2010 - 03:41 .

[Half_Moon]

We have no emotional attachment to Earth in the ME universe. We've never been able to land there so it's hard to care much about a faceless planet that, for all we know, could be completely alien to us.

[DaVanguard]

adam_grif wrote...

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

I find it hilarious that people have been saying they want to see earth since the first game and now that they're going to, they're complaining about it.

It's not that simple. Two kinds of people are pissed off:

1. The people who are complaining that the game is focussing on Earth, because it continues the humans-are-special idiocy.
2. People who are complaining that they aren't getting to see Earth during it's peak, they only get to see it after it's been ruined by Reapers already. If they wanted to visit a post apocalpytic wasteland, they would just land on Tuchanka again.

beating the turians

They didn't beat the Turians, they won a minor battle because the Turians thought they had already destroyed the human fleet, and if the council hadn't stopped the Turians early, the Alliance would have been crushed under their boot.

have anderson almost become a specter,

Which indicates what? That they have soldiers as good as other races? So what?

alliances expansion into skillian verge

Backed by the council, because the council hates Batarians, yes.

First contact war was a important war because it introduced the fact that there were other species out there

having a specter means that that race is on tep closer to having a seat on the council

the citidel races couldnt colonize the verge but humans were able to

[Count Viceroy]

Half_Moon wrote...

We have no emotional attachment to Earth in the ME universe. We've never been able to land there so it's hard to care much about a faceless planet that, for all we know, could be completely alien to us.

Meh, Earth is earth, it's our home, regardless of how it looks and how much it's changed.

[adam_grif]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...
 
The fact that nobody knows sh!t about either of those things and yet they've got their panities in a twist; is what is most amusing. Nobody has a reason to be pissed off about anything but here we are, watching the cattle run around flapping their arms in an unfounded nerd rage. It's actually sad when you think about it. 

The official plot summary of the game is:

Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As Commander Shepard,
an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind is to rally the
civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final mission to take back
the Earth.

i.e. the Game is centred around uniting the galaxy to save Earth before it is destroyed. We do have a reason for thinking that. That we won't get to see Earth before it's burning is less certain, but that the premise of the game is that it IS burning, so at best, it will get attacked after one short intro mission or something, which might not even be on Earth at all.

[FoxShadowblade]

Adam_grif is correct, it is strongly implied that Earth is the focus, that all our allies will be spent trying to take back...London...



..Awesome?



But keep in mind that this is the closing of the trilogy, your going to finish the fight against the Reapers. But your also going to finish all the stories you have made, every side mission, every character, is going to be concluded. In short: Now were going to see what we've really done to the galaxy.



As for complaining about it, we're on a game forum, what else DO we do?

[Alarieliia]

To the people that are effed about Earth maybe being a central focus and the people freaking about why Earth should be a main focus.

-It's a one min trailer.
-I highly doubt that they will focus solely on Earth but it probably will be a strong focus nonetheless. I mean Shepard IS human. As stated before the reapers are interested in humans and this has been sited.
-More than likely the reapers will go after the  all the strong races first. The Salarians, Turians, Asari, Humans and Krogan will probably be the hardest hit.
-There isnt enough evidence to get your panties/boxers in a twist so chill. How many times is this type of thread going to rear its ugly head? (Ha I rhymed XD)

*sigh*

Fox...I'm afraid your right about the arguing though. I kinda get tired of seeing it since either side of the argument doesn't understand each other and they argue till their blue in the face about which opinion is better.

Modifié par Alarieliia, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:45 .

[Alarieliia]

Bennyjammin79
wrote...

Again, you're taking a small amount of info and turning it into a whole of
supposition.There will be lots of other places to go and see. I doubt the game
will start off with the Reapers insta smashing earth right away. You presume
an awful lot from a 2 sentence synopsis. Everything else
that you're ragging about is all based off of variables you don't even
know. You've been given an inch and you're trying to run a mile with
it. 

Something you've made blindingly clear for me is that people are just
complaining because now that they get to go to earth, it's not the way they
wanted it. That's hideously childish and it's one of things that makes
these forums suck.  

Exactly! 

Modifié par Alarieliia, 23 décembre 2010 - 04:49 .

[kmcd5722]

I vaguely remember these forums teeming with the hope we would visit earth...



Anyways, although my trust in BW faltered a bit from the transition between ME1 and ME2, specifically when "Don't rush to conclusions about squad armor!" turned into "LOLZ! You can toggle between TWO outfits! Talk about streamlining AND customization!", I trust BW to not have an entire game based on a one-minute teaser. That was sufficiently off-topic, but whatever, anyways, BW said not to let a one-minute trailer be a reason to fret. (This was over a separate issue, but the message still applies.)



I personally want to go to other homeworlds and the citadel to fend off the Reapers. Colonies are nice too, as are unknown systems that may, like Omega-4, contain worlds previously unexplored that are under the dominion of the Reapers.

[adam_grif]

There will be lots of other places to go and see.

OF COURSE THERE WILL BE. HOW ELSE ARE WE GOING TO GATHER ALLIES FROM ALL OVER THE GALAXY?



What the complaint is is that the story is FOCUSING on Earth and, more specifically, a human-centric threat, not that the story is SET on Earth.

I doubt the game will start off with the Reapers insta smashing earth right away.

That's the entire premise of the game, Earth is under attack by Reapers, you now have to stop the reapers. We have been given no other indications at all. The obvious plot structure parallels to DA:O abound.

[archurban]

OK, it is just dumb. who cares? wow. you are not human? where you stand now? Mars? Earth is the most important planet for entire game. I want to see different places to fight against reapers or their scums (like Crysis 2).

[HazelrahFiver]

I didn't read all the responses before posting this, so hopefully it is not irrelevant to the thread.

My guess is that Earth becomes so important because of the planet itself.  Perhaps there is technology (be it evolutionary or developed) in the planet itself.  Perhaps this tech has been shaping humans into Reaper killing organisms, or if harnessed it will be the weapon to end their bizarre tyrany.

It is likely that the majority of the game will not be spent on Earth, or even with the orb as a focus.  We'll probably find out late in the game that we need to go 'home' (ya know, the horse we rode in on), and the last gigantic series of missions will be about landing, recapturing, and firing up the big bada boom.  (Fifth Element reference used purposefully)

[Quietness]

There is no way they can have the whole game based on earth. We have to get allies.. Now saving Earth more than likely.

No massive amounts of other races disappearing so a reaper can be made, and they kinda know a certain main character by name that just happens to be human?

[Aidoru Kami]

Holy hell, people. They aren't going to seclude you to this one place.



AND HOLY CRAP. Where else would they go? If they want to wipe out humanity and the rest of existence, what better places to go than their HOMEWORLDS? Earth is humanity's HOMEWORLD. They're very interested in humanity because of SHEPARD. Yes, earth's going to be a big part of the game. It won't be the ONLY big part of it.

[Lord Phoebus]

Shepard's human, without the promise of genetic continuity of one form or another he's biologically irrelevant. Why should he care what happens to the other races if humanity falls below the levels necessary for stable repopulation? If that happens, Shep might as well find a nice place to bunker down while the galaxy burns around him.



Earth would be a great place for a last stand fight. Given that the trailer mentions that Shepard better get here fast with the fleet assumes the fleet is already assembled so it sounds like a final battle sort of occurance instead of a start of game occurance.

[Monochrome Wench]

Earth may be the focus, at least for part of the game, but its not going to be the location! We see Shepard in the trailer and he is NOT on Earth. Making an assumption, 1 week after the attack starts Shepard is going to be in orbit, probably doing recon in the Normandy (which just happens to be a stealth ship!). I imagine then Shepard will then call in the calvery and attempt to take back the planet. So there will be a fair amount of gameplay before attempting to take on the Reapers. I imagine they will succeed, but its possible the Reapers will just retreat somewhere and then there will be more gameplay afterwards to finish them off.

[Alarieliia]

adam_grif wrote...

What the complaint is is that the story is FOCUSING on Earth and, more specifically, a human-centric threat, not that the story is SET on Earth.

That's the entire premise of the game, Earth is under attack by Reapers, you now have to stop the reapers. We have been given no other indications at all. The obvious plot structure parallels to DA:O abound.

The trailer has been out less than a month and its obvious? Nothing is obvious yet and probably wont be until mid 2011 it is officially confirmed. I remember reading a quote by one of bioware's developers that stated "Nothing is certain till the shipping date." Your basing that claim on assumptions. Earth was used for shock value. Wait till we get more info before blowing a gasket hmm? 

Set on earth? I don't believe that's what they think. No more precisely the complaint is that some are worried that Earth is going to take center stage. On the other side the argument is that Earth pretty much has to be included as one of the focuses of the game not necessarily the MAIN one. They are arguing a plausible reason that Bioware could give to justify it should it happen.

I think its all a misunderstanding.