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darknoon5 wrote...

Jenkins and Wilson.


LOL. True that.

Realistically, I actually think Kaiden would have really good synergy with Shepard. He has biotic and tech powers like Miranda, but from the lore perspective he seems to be quite a capable combatant as well (unlike Miranda, who is more of the XO or officer type). Being a Commander as of ME2, I can assume that he is capable of decent intelligence as well.

That said, he is nowhere as powerful in specific areas compared to say, Wrex or Jack or Legion. And if the OP means strongest physically, then I would say Grunt hands down.

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WREX

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Suddenly I have the urge to create a "Who would win in a fight" thread.

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Wrex. Not only is he a beast, but his biotics are nothing to sneeze at. I just finished an adept run on ME1 and Wrex's biotics may not be as extensive as Shep's, but they are impressive nonetheless. His throw and warp are very effective in combat. He's as useful/versatile as Miranda in combat, plus he has a shotgun, plus he can ram into things. And comparing him to Grunt - he killed the thresher maw without shepard's help. Just sayin'.

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My vote would have gone to Wrex except that he's getting old. Even for a Krogan. I have the feeling that he's already past his peak in terms of raw combat ability - it is his experience that is formidable.

In fact, any strong biotic with assault rifle training is pretty much IMBA. That's Wrex, Samara, and Morinth. Samara beats Morinth because Reave is much more useful than Dominate. Also, if you've seen the Shadow Broker's video archive of Samara, she can Pull a sky car to a grinding halt when the sky car is on full throttle and trying to escape. A SKY CAR. I won't be surprised if she Pulls a gunship next. And I doubt if anyone except Wrex can match her combat experience.

Yeah, so balancing gameplay and story, my vote goes to the Justicar.

Liara is pretty awesome too. I'd say her powers are by far the best, but her weapons are lackluster. Also, she doesn't have the extra survivability given by Reave (if you Reave as often as possible with Samara, Samara never dies even when she's boxing Harbinger). I'd say Liara's survivability is better than Mordin, Jack, Tali, or Kasumi, and comparable to Garrus or Thane.

An honorable mention goes to Legion, the awesome Engineer/Infiltrator/Sentinel hybrid and ultimate combat/tech machine. His Widow is godly and combat drone provides useful distraction. GSB plus shield upgrages make him almost as indestructible as Grunt. Legion's one glaring weakness is CQC, which makes him unable to operate alone in all situations. He requires a CQC expert's support to reach full potential.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 23 décembre 2010 - 09:51 .


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In terms of squadmates that just refuse to go down it would be a tie between Grunt and Wrex.

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ashley holds no candle to wrex when it comes to physical strength...but bionics then its definitely samara/monirith or jack...tech powers its either tali/legion hands down...

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Blasto has no competition no matter where you put him.

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Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Biotic: Morinth

Strength: Grunt

Agility: Thane


I have to say this on your mentioning of Thane, but, physically, he is not that good. (I feel like a real ass saying all this about Thane, he is a fantastic fighter, but that all comes from skill, not strength. Thane is simply too ill be be as agile or powerful as some of the other members, but his SKILL is unmatched.) But I have to post this *Anxiously awaits hatespam from Thane fan girls*

The below report was taken from Dr. Chakwas's medical report on Thane Krios, it becomes evident in the following he is not that physically apt.

Dr. Chakwas - Thane Krios medical report

At this time, Mr. Krios should continue getting regular cardiovascular exercise in order to stimulate lung movement and prevent or delay the stiffness that causes lack of oxygen transport. While physical stimulation may also be beneficial in keeping tissue flexible, any injury at this point will dramatically impact Mr. Krios' body and cause rapid degeneration. It is unclear how much longer Thane will be able to serve in direct action. Thane should continue to wear loose clothing that leaves his chest uncovered to prevent moisture buildup that could worsen the problem


As you can see, Krios is physically challenged due to his Kepral's Syndrome. 

However, I would have to say he has the most expert knowledge on how to silently and effectively take down targets in the quickest and easiest ways possible, if that lightens the hit in anyway.

Modifié par That Yellow Bastard, 23 décembre 2010 - 10:42 .


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AngelFrost wrote...

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

I'd personally put it something like this:

Strongest
Grunt
Wrex
Legion
Zaeed
Garrus

Medium
Jacob
Morinth
Samara
Ashley
Kaidan
Thane
Mordin

Weakest
Jack
Kasumi
Tali
Liara

This is going by their capacity in terms of raw strength, with Grunt at the top and Tali at the very bottom.

As far as overall superiority goes, in terms of biotics, It would go something like this:

Morinth
Samara
Liara
Jack
Jacob
Miranda
Kaidan
Wrex

^Seems about right.


I agree with your rankings on everything except Liara. She's stronger than she looks and playing as an Infiltrator, she was the major reason I got through the Assassin showdown in Lair of the Shadow Broker.

In the overall rankings, I'd flip Liara to Medium solely because of her gun skills letting her down from hitting higher.


So, more or less, like this:

Strongest
Grunt
Wrex
Legion
Zaeed
Garrus

Medium
Jacob
Morinth
Samara
Ashley
Kaidan
Thane
Mordin
Liara

Weakest
Jack
Kasumi
Tali

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didymos1120 wrote...

Jack is the most powerful human biotic.  Lore-wise, Asari are stronger than any other race when it comes to biotics, though of course some individuals will be weaker than the strongest human biotics.

I remember Kaidan's biotic abilities being described as "almost as powerful as an Asari's". Kaidan says Shepard's biotic ability spikes higher than his. And I'm pretty sure Jack would be more powerful than Shepard.

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Nobody ever makes a display of power on par with Jack.

She kills four YMIR mechs, and punches two (very big) holes right through the walls of a space ship all in about 3 seconds.

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Jack

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Definitely Miranda. Her active powers compliment any Shepard, and her passive power is easily the best of any squadmember.



Garrus is overrated. If you don't micromanage him, he will suicide himself 5 seconds into the battle.



Kasumi is underrated. Shadow Strike is awesome.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

Nobody ever makes a display of power on par with Jack.
She kills four YMIR mechs, and punches two (very big) holes right through the walls of a space ship all in about 3 seconds.


Are you pulling our leg?  I'm 99% sure the OP was speaking in terms of actual gameplay, not cinematic cut scenes.

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The Smoking Man wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Jack is the most powerful human biotic.  Lore-wise, Asari are stronger than any other race when it comes to biotics, though of course some individuals will be weaker than the strongest human biotics.


I remember Kaidan's biotic abilities being described as "almost as powerful as an Asari's".


OK. I myself don't recall anything like that ever being said.  He does say that the full biotic kick he nailed Vyrnnus with was almost as strong as he can manage, even in the present, and that it was impressive for a 17 year old.  And keep in mind, that didn't actually kill Vyrnnus outright.  He likely only died because he didn't get medical treatment fast enough.

See here:


Modifié par didymos1120, 24 décembre 2010 - 09:46 .


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All those saying Grunt instead of Wrex - where does it say that Grunt is genetically engineered to be as physically strong as a krogan can be? I was under the impression that he was engineered - and tank-taught - to have the "traits" of a pure krogan, meaning more personality traits than physical abilities. And even so, that teaching failed, because Okeer failed to leave a lasting imprint on Grunt, meaning that he has no direction or motivation.



The reason I say that is because I don't see how he's stronger than Wrex in any way. He may be genetically pure, he may have more backup organs than the average krogan, but I don't see it say anywhere that he can beat any other living krogan in an arm wrestle. In any case Wrex has his biotics and his experience, as well as the fact that he's bigger than Grunt. I fail to see how Grunt would stand a chance against big Wrex.



I still love Grunt though.

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Wrex would beat Grunt in a fight. Grunt is still a whelp by comparison. Wrex is bigger, stronger and smarter.

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Sammuthegreat wrote...

All those saying Grunt instead of Wrex - where does it say that Grunt is genetically engineered to be as physically strong as a krogan can be?


He was genetically engineered to be a krogan supersoldier, and that clearly includes physical strength, as that is one of the major characteristics of krogan in general.  The tank training was just supposed to give him the maximum use of his potential.  Also, look at how strong the reject you talk to is.  I highly doubt Grunt was physically weaker than he was.  EDI also says he's "an exceptional example of the krogan species", and the organ thing is simply a single facet of that, indicating just how "well-made" he is. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

All those saying Grunt instead of Wrex - where does it say that Grunt is genetically engineered to be as physically strong as a krogan can be?


He was genetically engineered to be a krogan supersoldier, and that clearly includes physical strength, as that is one of the major characteristics of krogan in general.  The tank training was just supposed to give him the maximum use of his potential.  Also, look at how strong the reject you talk to is.  I highly doubt Grunt was physically weaker than he was.  EDI also says he's "an exceptional example of the krogan species", and the organ thing is simply a single facet of that, indicating just how "well-made" he is. 


I get all that, although I personally think the whole "supersoldier" thing is just a cool word to use to make Grunt sound awesome rather than being a clear indicator that he's the strongest krogan in existence - and in any case, aren't all krogans pretty much "supersoldiers" by default? But still, where does it say that he is physically stronger than any other krogan? I get that there are hints and such, but all I can infer for certain is that he's a prime example of a krogan - but then again, Wrex is too. After all, he's a battlemaster, and he's now the leader of all the clans on Tuchanka.

Besides, Grunt's only very young. There's nothing to say he won't get stronger, I just find it hard to believe that he's already capable of out-strengthing Wrex, whose exploits certainly mark him as the best the krogans have to offer (apart from Grunt, according to lore).

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 24 décembre 2010 - 10:21 .


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Wrex and Ashley were pretty much indestructible.

Modifié par thq95, 24 décembre 2010 - 11:53 .


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thq95 wrote...

Wrex and Ashley were pretty much indestructible.

Agree with this, great squad for a sentinel.
As vanguard I usually brought Wrex and either Garrus or Tali.
As infiltrator I usually brought Garrus and eitehr Wrex or Liara.

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Based on actual gameplay, not cutscenes:



Physical strength and resilience: Wrex, indestructible mother****ing tank



Biotic ability: Liara, the only biotic in the game besides Shepard that can unleash Singularity



Overall, I think Wrex is the most powerful squadmate I have seen so far. Unkillable, decent biotics and good combat training. ME2 squadmates pale in comparison.

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well physically it has to be Grunt. There is no question on that one.

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Joker, obviously. He'll break his arm at you.