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[Anacronian Stryx]

atheelogos wrote...

well physically it has to be Grunt. There is no question on that one.

Probably - though since Legion is fully mechanical being there is no way to determine just how physical adept he might be.

[The Unfallen]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

All those saying Grunt instead of Wrex - where does it say that Grunt is genetically engineered to be as physically strong as a krogan can be? I was under the impression that he was engineered - and tank-taught - to have the "traits" of a pure krogan, meaning more personality traits than physical abilities. And even so, that teaching failed, because Okeer failed to leave a lasting imprint on Grunt, meaning that he has no direction or motivation.

The reason I say that is because I don't see how he's stronger than Wrex in any way. He may be genetically pure, he may have more backup organs than the average krogan, but I don't see it say anywhere that he can beat any other living krogan in an arm wrestle. In any case Wrex has his biotics and his experience, as well as the fact that he's bigger than Grunt. I fail to see how Grunt would stand a chance against big Wrex.

I still love Grunt though.

Wrex may be bigger, but Grunt is still physically stronger. He has the best traits distilled into him.

[Moondoggie]

For brute stregnth and the ability to take damage the krogan are by far superior so Wrex or Grunt but you have Jack,Samara and Morinth who are incredibly powerful as biotics where they don't need to be incredibly strong physically so it's hard to decide based on various factors.

[The Unfallen]

All around it has to be Wrex, due to his Kaidan level Biotics, Zaeed like experience, and Krogan strength.



You know, Samara may have better biotics, and Grunt may have more brute strength, but c'mon, Wrex is the best. =P

[NICKjnp]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Nobody ever makes a display of power on par with Jack.
She kills four YMIR mechs, and punches two (very big) holes right through the walls of a space ship all in about 3 seconds.

Really....because I remember seeing an asari move two massive shipping containers out of the way on Illium.

And lets not forget Samara's "I believe I can fly" moment on Illium.  And Aria nukes a praetorian with warp (killing everything...Collectors, Blue Suns, and Slaves) in that extra comic Dark Horse put out.  So Jack's display of power isn't all that impressive.

[ColorMeSuprised]

I think that depends on who you are fighting. In ME1 it had been Tali, in my opinion. When fighting the Geth, she was superior.

I'm no fan of pure biotics, like Samara and Jack. If, it had to be a Krogan, with their mix of biotics and weapon power.

So I vote for Wrex and Tali. Had them with me all the time in ME1.



And Thane in ME2. He killed before I even saw the enemy... Great guy. Super reliable.

[atheelogos]

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

All those saying Grunt instead of Wrex - where does it say that Grunt is genetically engineered to be as physically strong as a krogan can be? I was under the impression that he was engineered - and tank-taught - to have the "traits" of a pure krogan, meaning more personality traits than physical abilities. And even so, that teaching failed, because Okeer failed to leave a lasting imprint on Grunt, meaning that he has no direction or motivation.

The reason I say that is because I don't see how he's stronger than Wrex in any way. He may be genetically pure, he may have more backup organs than the average krogan, but I don't see it say anywhere that he can beat any other living krogan in an arm wrestle. In any case Wrex has his biotics and his experience, as well as the fact that he's bigger than Grunt. I fail to see how Grunt would stand a chance against big Wrex.

I still love Grunt though.

Wrex may be bigger, but Grunt is still physically stronger. He has the best traits distilled into him.

and grunt is young. Wrex is strong but he's very old so that has to be taken into account.

[atheelogos]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

well physically it has to be Grunt. There is no question on that one.

Probably - though since Legion is fully mechanical being there is no way to determine just how physical adept he might be.

good point I totally forgot about Legion. Though we don't know how strong that body is.

[jedishephard]

legion is the strongest...i forgot about him...if you kill him then another legion will come back..."legion for we are many"

[Sammuthegreat]

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

All those saying Grunt instead of Wrex - where does it say that Grunt is genetically engineered to be as physically strong as a krogan can be? I was under the impression that he was engineered - and tank-taught - to have the "traits" of a pure krogan, meaning more personality traits than physical abilities. And even so, that teaching failed, because Okeer failed to leave a lasting imprint on Grunt, meaning that he has no direction or motivation.

The reason I say that is because I don't see how he's stronger than Wrex in any way. He may be genetically pure, he may have more backup organs than the average krogan, but I don't see it say anywhere that he can beat any other living krogan in an arm wrestle. In any case Wrex has his biotics and his experience, as well as the fact that he's bigger than Grunt. I fail to see how Grunt would stand a chance against big Wrex.

I still love Grunt though.

Wrex may be bigger, but Grunt is still physically stronger. He has the best traits distilled into him.

Hmmm. Grunt is still very young though, and probably not fully grown - presumably size would be among the ideal krogan traits he's made up of, and I'd imagine he'll grow to be bigger. So maybe he's not at his physical peak yet? Maybe he's not yet stronger than Wrex - a fully grown battlemaster in his prime - but he almost certainly will be in the future.

As for those saying Wrex is old and therefore weaker, I was under the impression that krogans didn't get frail in old age. I figured they were strong for their whole lives and died in their primes - it would be a bit feeble of a warrior race to have weak elderlings lying about being pointless.

Either way, to come back to the point after an enjoyably pointless ramble, Wrex would still win in a fight against Grunt, with his nous and especially his biotics. If Grunt came rhino-charging at him, he could just Push him away.

[The Unfallen]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

All those saying Grunt instead of Wrex - where does it say that Grunt is genetically engineered to be as physically strong as a krogan can be? I was under the impression that he was engineered - and tank-taught - to have the "traits" of a pure krogan, meaning more personality traits than physical abilities. And even so, that teaching failed, because Okeer failed to leave a lasting imprint on Grunt, meaning that he has no direction or motivation.

The reason I say that is because I don't see how he's stronger than Wrex in any way. He may be genetically pure, he may have more backup organs than the average krogan, but I don't see it say anywhere that he can beat any other living krogan in an arm wrestle. In any case Wrex has his biotics and his experience, as well as the fact that he's bigger than Grunt. I fail to see how Grunt would stand a chance against big Wrex.

I still love Grunt though.

Wrex may be bigger, but Grunt is still physically stronger. He has the best traits distilled into him.

Hmmm. Grunt is still very young though, and probably not fully grown - presumably size would be among the ideal krogan traits he's made up of, and I'd imagine he'll grow to be bigger. So maybe he's not at his physical peak yet? Maybe he's not yet stronger than Wrex - a fully grown battlemaster in his prime - but he almost certainly will be in the future.

As for those saying Wrex is old and therefore weaker, I was under the impression that krogans didn't get frail in old age. I figured they were strong for their whole lives and died in their primes - it would be a bit feeble of a warrior race to have weak elderlings lying about being pointless.

Either way, to come back to the point after an enjoyably pointless ramble, Wrex would still win in a fight against Grunt, with his nous and especially his biotics. If Grunt came rhino-charging at him, he could just Push him away.

Agreed. Grunt my be physically stronger but Wrex is... Wrex. You can't beat him! =P

[onelifecrisis]

Personally I'd say Samara in ME2, and either Tali or Garrus in ME1. Wrex was powerful, but ME1 had Geth everywhere which made the techies more useful.



LOL at the people saying Jack. Really? Jack? She's the most useless squad member so far. Most powerful human biotic ever? Give me a break.

[GraciousCat]

I am going with Wrex for the same reasons that many other people have posted.

[CheeseEnchilada]

Wrex. Elder krogan with biotics and knowledge of the battlefield? No contest.



In my mind, second place goes to Thane. He's experienced in both long range and hand-to-hand combat, uses biotics, has extensive knowledge of alien biology and strikes before anyone knows he's there.

[Dune01]

Wrex.Grunt.Legion.

[ADLegend21]

Legion, Ashley and Samara.

[ColorMeSuprised]

onelifecrisis wrote...

LOL at the people saying Jack. Really? Jack? She's the most useless squad member so far. Most powerful human biotic ever? Give me a break.

My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't even recrute her if I could avoid it...

[magelet]

onelifecrisis wrote...
LOL at the people saying Jack. Really? Jack? She's the most useless squad member so far. Most powerful human biotic ever? Give me a break.

It depends on whether you are going by actual gameplay strength or cutscene strength. I mean Jack did kill three heavy mechs by herself, and fought her way out of a high security prison. She just can't while she's in your party.

[Vaenier]

I will have to say Garrus or Legion. They are the last thing you never see. They are not restrained by emotions either like other squadmates.

[Boombox]

I'd say Samara. She's like 900-1000 years old with a lot of combat experience and Justicar training. I don't think any of the other companions, at the point we know them, can compare to that.



Morinth would probably surpass Samara but if she was stronger at the time of ME2 I don't think she'd be running so much.

[PrinceLionheart]

Lore Wise I'd give it to either Samara or Wrex.

[Silentmode]

The strongest...

Physically - Grunt, pure Krogen genetically engineered to be perfect physically and mentally.

Biotics - Samara, a nigh millenium year old Justicar with Matriarch level biotic ability.

Combat Experience - Wrex, centuries as one of the deadliest mercenaries in the galaxy.

Tech Expertise - Legion, Mobile Geth platform with unparalleled tech capabilities.

Leadership - Garrus, he learned from the best.

Overall - Miranda, genetically engineered to be perfect, biotic and tech ability, excellant leadership ability. MaleShep even has a line where he admits Miranda and himself are very similiar (when you break up with her ironically) and I have to agree.

[goofyomnivore]

In terms of gameplay I would say; Miranda as the overall best, Samara as the best biotic, Tali as the best tech, and Grunt as the best combat



Lore wise? I would say Samara followed by Mornith and Wrex. Although I think a healthy Thane and fully grown Grunt(if he lives up to his hype) would give Samara a run for her money.

[Knickerus]

Strongest? I really don't know.

I seem to do well on Insanity with Garrus (Concussive Shot) and Mordin (Incinerate).

[azerSheppard]

Wrex hands down, there is a reason why I chose him as my avatar xd



He is the last true chosen battlemaster, feared for his strategic mind, biotics and raw strenght. He's been around enough to recognise power. Grunt still needs a few centuries of killing untill he is at the level of Wrex.



As for Samara's biotics, she can't take down Wrex, neither can Wrex, I think theyd end up fighting until one of them is caught offguard.



Thane on the otherhand is a master at killing, but not in a direct confrontation, he would stealth to just about an inch from his opponent, and finish him off with one move. We must note however that Samara and Wrex have lived long enough not to underestimate a Drell assasin.



Hounestly, when you think about it you can't ever be sure about who would win, remember Mordin, "never see me coming", i wouldn't be surprised if he used nerve-gas or something biological like a toxin to paralyze them all and finish them of with a double tap to the face.