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[didymos1120]

Vaenier wrote...

I will have to say Garrus or Legion. They are the last thing you never see. They are not restrained by emotions either like other squadmates.

Garrus is not restrained by emotion?  Sure you didn't mean Thane?  Garrus is very much ruled by emotion.

[NICKjnp]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Personally I'd say Samara in ME2, and either Tali or Garrus in ME1. Wrex was powerful, but ME1 had Geth everywhere which made the techies more useful.

LOL at the people saying Jack. Really? Jack? She's the most useless squad member so far. Most powerful human biotic ever? Give me a break.

Tali?  Are you serious?  Biotics tore apart enemies much more in ME1.  Liara and Wrex or Kaidan and Wrex destroyed enemies in ME1.  Tech wasn't that special in ME1.  In ME2 it was...which is why Garrus was a great squadmate in ME2.  As for ME1 it was anyone with biotics.... lift, singularity, and throw were "win" buttons.

ME2 was Miranda because she could debuff anyone and gave everyone a bonus to weapons and health.  For the suicide mission and Reaper IFF it was Samara because of Reave

[RyuGuitarFreak]

I'd say Garrus, yeah. He was taking 3 groups of mercs on his own, ALONE. Guy is a damn tough bastard and the most strong willed I'd say.



Then Wrex.



Then a draw between Grunt, Jack and Samara. But I'm not sure if Liara is or not on their level. Maybe Thane or Zaeed could be there too.

[Bad King]

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Who do you think is the strongest squad member Shepard has had, and why?

Physically, my money is on Grunt, since he was engineered to be the strongest and fastest of his species, essentially a pure Krogan.

All around best to compliment Shepard, I would say is Garrus, although Ashley and Wrex come in close seconds. 

Morinth hands down. She gets stronger with every Ardat-Yakshi kill and is already a powerful biotic (she equals Samara despite being hundreds of years younger).

[azerSheppard]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

I'd say Garrus, yeah. He was taking 3 groups of mercs on his own, ALONE. Guy is a damn tough bastard and the most strong willed I'd say.

Then Wrex.

Then a draw between Grunt, Jack and Samara. But I'm not sure if Liara is or not on their level. Maybe Thane or Zaeed could be there too.

The merc bands where retards, you don't defeat a single strong fighter let alone sniper in a horde attack, unless you outnumber him 1000 to 1 at the same exact time.

The real way to do it would have been sinding in an elite squad made of 10 to 15 people. There is no surviving if the enemy exceeds all your skills, even better positioning can be taken advantage of by an elite stategist.
Garrus wouldn't have survived the final raid on his own. Not that he is weak, he took down a jet with one shot.

People need to realize that Shepards crew is kinda like "the dirty douzen" they are all the best at what they do, Mordin is one if the greatest biologist of his time, Samara is a justicar who fought on par with a SPECTRE, Legion is the most advanced Geth platform, Thane is a master Assasin, Grunt is the genetic equivallent of a Krogan god, etc...

Combat can be done in various ways. If it comes to a contest of biotic power, Jack can easily tear through Heavy Mechs and metal walls, she is the only character that is shown to be able to do this. Everyone just goes on about how great Samara's biotics are, but universe wise she hasn't really proven much. She has a great skill, but THAT is not what this topic was about.

Ofcourse there are, universewise, those that excel at certain abilities, no doubt Grunt/Wrex is physicaly the strongest
Legion the best hacker, Thane the best marksman etc...

But you can't compare them to each other, unless you define a certain set of rules or setting to the fight.

[AntiChri5]

Really....because I remember seeing an asari move two massive shipping containers out of the way on Illium.

Those crates aren't much bigger then the crates you can easily lift on ME 1.

And lets not forget Samara's "I believe I can fly" moment on Illium.  And Aria nukes a praetorian with warp (killing everything...Collectors, Blue Suns, and Slaves) in that extra comic Dark Horse put out.  So Jack's display of power isn't all that impressive.

Samaras moment of almost flight is very unimpressive power wise. Who hasn't made an asari fly?

Aria takes out a Praetorian, the rest are killed by the praetorians death, if i recall correctly. The codex mentions something about the death or praetorians killing everything around them.

LOL at the people saying Jack. Really? Jack? She's the most useless squad member so far. Most powerful human biotic ever? Give me a break.

You said Samara. Samaras greates show of power (long walk) is easily replicated by Jack.

Are you pulling our leg?  I'm 99% sure the OP was speaking in terms of actual gameplay, not cinematic cut scenes.

Then why is the thread in the story forum, not the gameplay forum?

[Googlesaurus]

azerSheppard wrote...

Legion the best hacker, Thane the best marksman etc...

But you can't compare them to each other, unless you define a certain set of rules or setting to the fight.

In all honesty Legion is probably a better marksman than any organic. He also mentions that he could take a punch from Grunt without injury. Lorewise it's hilarious how so close he is to being overpowered.

Modifié par Googlesaurus, 25 décembre 2010 - 01:58 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

azerSheppard wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

I'd say Garrus, yeah. He was taking 3 groups of mercs on his own, ALONE. Guy is a damn tough bastard and the most strong willed I'd say.

Then Wrex.

Then a draw between Grunt, Jack and Samara. But I'm not sure if Liara is or not on their level. Maybe Thane or Zaeed could be there too.

The merc bands where retards, you don't defeat a single strong fighter let alone sniper in a horde attack, unless you outnumber him 1000 to 1 at the same exact time.

The real way to do it would have been sinding in an elite squad made of 10 to 15 people. There is no surviving if the enemy exceeds all your skills, even better positioning can be taken advantage of by an elite stategist.
Garrus wouldn't have survived the final raid on his own. Not that he is weak, he took down a jet with one shot.

People need to realize that Shepards crew is kinda like "the dirty douzen" they are all the best at what they do, Mordin is one if the greatest biologist of his time, Samara is a justicar who fought on par with a SPECTRE, Legion is the most advanced Geth platform, Thane is a master Assasin, Grunt is the genetic equivallent of a Krogan god, etc...

Combat can be done in various ways. If it comes to a contest of biotic power, Jack can easily tear through Heavy Mechs and metal walls, she is the only character that is shown to be able to do this. Everyone just goes on about how great Samara's biotics are, but universe wise she hasn't really proven much. She has a great skill, but THAT is not what this topic was about.

Ofcourse there are, universewise, those that excel at certain abilities, no doubt Grunt/Wrex is physicaly the strongest
Legion the best hacker, Thane the best marksman etc...

But you can't compare them to each other, unless you define a certain set of rules or setting to the fight.

I wouldn't call them retards, that's a bad way to put Garrus's effort to the ground. Also, remember Garrus was cornered there, pressured by them, although it was a good place to put everything he had to use. And you yourself would put 10-15 elite soldiers to take down ONE GUY. That's not a common threat, is it?

I wouldn't say Thane is the best marksman like this, Garrus is also portraid as a VERY good sniper. Well, Thane's abilities weren't very well explained if you ask me. Gameplaywise and in the lore. The guy has the ability to disappear in the shadows and on the crowd, but how is this useful in the game and on the suicide mission? Also, his meelee skills weren't anywhere in the gameplay segments. It's funny that he was portraid as anything but a sniper in the first marketing videos. Such a shame for a good character. In comparison, Kasumi was much better handled. She disappears by using stealth camuflage and in gameplay segments she has the shadow walk.

[ShadyKat]

Without a doubt Wrex. Wrex would mop the floor with any squadmate in a 1on1 fight. Samara is the only one who could stand a chance with Wrex.


And why do people keep saying Legion? He's just a normal Geth, you know how easy it's to kill Geth in both ME1 and ME2. Legion would be the most easy of everyone to kill in a 1 on 1 fight.

Modifié par ShadyKat, 25 décembre 2010 - 04:48 .

[Googlesaurus]

And why do people keep saying Legion? He's just a normal Geth, you know how easy it's to kill Geth in both ME1 and ME2. Legion would be the most easy of everyone to kill in a 1 on 1 fight.

A normal geth can't speak and think independently. Legion wields an anti-tank cannon while running, can take punches from Grunt without injury (in his own words), has reflexes faster than any organic alive (verified in SB files), and can process information thousands of times faster than ordinary people. By all rights he should be untouchable.  

[Jagri]

Tali and Ash say they are the strongest and made a recording to prove it!

Modifié par Jagri, 25 décembre 2010 - 05:08 .

[ShadyKat]

Googlesaurus wrote...

And why do people keep saying Legion? He's just a normal Geth, you know how easy it's to kill Geth in both ME1 and ME2. Legion would be the most easy of everyone to kill in a 1 on 1 fight.

A normal geth can't speak and think independently. Legion wields an anti-tank cannon while running, can take punches from Grunt without injury (in his own words), has reflexes faster than any organic alive (verified in SB files), and can process information thousands of times faster than ordinary people. By all rights he should be untouchable.  

Legion is not some super Geth, he's a Geth. Tali, who isn't a super soilder herself, has killed many Geth by herself. Legion would die just the same. Geth are not unstoppable killing machines. Shepard has killed thousands of Geth by him/herself.

[jedishephard]

the strongest member is:

physically: the krogans (strength) and Thane for (agility)

Bionicly: Samara (dude she is a justicar)

Tech: Legion/Tali...

the strongest member can be defined either physical, bionics, or tech savviness

[jedishephard]

ShadyKat wrote...

Googlesaurus wrote...

And why do people keep saying Legion? He's just a normal Geth, you know how easy it's to kill Geth in both ME1 and ME2. Legion would be the most easy of everyone to kill in a 1 on 1 fight.

A normal geth can't speak and think independently. Legion wields an anti-tank cannon while running, can take punches from Grunt without injury (in his own words), has reflexes faster than any organic alive (verified in SB files), and can process information thousands of times faster than ordinary people. By all rights he should be untouchable.  

Legion is not some super Geth, he's a Geth. Tali, who isn't a super soilder herself, has killed many Geth by herself. Legion would die just the same. Geth are not unstoppable killing machines. Shepard has killed thousands of Geth by him/herself.

Legion is not an ordinary geth dude...talk to him some time...you will see...he is a super soldier/hunter..he was trying to hunt down shep so the geth can help him...he should appear to be alot stronger than he does in the game...but he does have a HUGE hole in his chest...hope they fix that in ME3

[AntiChri5]

It's biotics, and biotics make physical strength irrelevant.

[ShadyKat]

jedishephard wrote...

the strongest member is:
physically: the krogans (strength) and Thane for (agility)
Bionicly: Samara (dude she is a justicar)
Tech: Legion/Tali...
the strongest member can be defined either physical, bionics, or tech savviness

And Wrex has the best mix of physical strength and biotics. As well as experince, he really would be the hardest to beat in a fight.

[Googlesaurus]

ShadyKat wrote...

Legion is not some super Geth, he's a Geth. Tali, who isn't a super soilder herself, has killed many Geth by herself. Legion would die just the same. Geth are not unstoppable killing machines. Shepard has killed thousands of Geth by him/herself.

And this Tali spree happened when? That time she snuck behind a geth platoon and took down one of them when it was separated from the pack? The time on Haestrom when she hid for her life?

Legion is a special geth. He was created so he could think and act as an independent being. Everything I mentioned is straight-up canon, no matter what you believe. SB dossiers, dialogue, the response to Grunt, it's all in the game. 

[ShadyKat]

Googlesaurus wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

Legion is not some super Geth, he's a Geth. Tali, who isn't a super soilder herself, has killed many Geth by herself. Legion would die just the same. Geth are not unstoppable killing machines. Shepard has killed thousands of Geth by him/herself.

And this Tali spree happened when? That time she snuck behind a geth platoon and took down one of them when it was separated from the pack? The time on Haestrom when she hid for her life?

Legion is a special geth. He was created so he could think and act as an independent being. Everything I mentioned is straight-up canon, no matter what you believe. SB dossiers, dialogue, the response to Grunt, it's all in the game. 

You must try replaying ME1 AND me2. Tali hunted down that Geth, and seperated him from his unit, before killing it, and ripping it's memory core out befor it wiped. Also did you check out the so call room Tali was hiding in from the Geth? If so you can count around 3 dead Geth in that room.

[Googlesaurus]

ShadyKat wrote...

Googlesaurus wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

Legion is not some super Geth, he's a Geth. Tali, who isn't a super soilder herself, has killed many Geth by herself. Legion would die just the same. Geth are not unstoppable killing machines. Shepard has killed thousands of Geth by him/herself.

And this Tali spree happened when? That time she snuck behind a geth platoon and took down one of them when it was separated from the pack? The time on Haestrom when she hid for her life?

Legion is a special geth. He was created so he could think and act as an independent being. Everything I mentioned is straight-up canon, no matter what you believe. SB dossiers, dialogue, the response to Grunt, it's all in the game. 

You must try replaying ME1 AND me2. Tali hunted down that Geth, and seperated him from his unit, before killing it, and ripping it's memory core out befor it wiped. Also did you check out the so call room Tali was hiding in from the Geth? If so you can count around 3 dead Geth in that room.

She followed a platoon, caught one when it was alone, retrieved the memory core after it was wiped, and managed to salvage a vital audio recording of Saren. That makes four geth. Of course they were all dumb geth to start. Every geth you fight in the game is incapable of independent thought except for Legion; they're the equivalent of untrained dogs with guns. 

[AntiChri5]

Gameplay mechanics are not consistent enough to be used as the only method to asses squadmate capability.

Besides, there is no real "strongest" in terms of gameplay. Miranda isn't the strongest, just the most versatile.

[Ryzaki]

Wrex

Samara/Morinth (I think they're pretty equal)



Now in terms of the rest I think it depends on who/what they're fighting.

[PauseforEffect]

Who's the strongest?

Physically-Grunt, also in durability as he can regenerate damage unlike Legion. Wrex also counts

Destructive Potential-Jack's demonstrated that on Purgatory

Experience-Samara's reputation as a Justicar speaks for itself in the amount of fear other Asari display at the mere mention. Wrex, while dangerous, is more of an expected threat more focused and contained. He is not considered likely to mass slaughter people on a whim

Skill-Thane for the lack of stories of him facing defeat in a fight.

Tactics-Garrus for the amount of havoc he caused to 3 merc groups

[LordPennlocke]

I'd say Wrex > Samara > Grunt > Garrus

[Encarmine]

Zaeed. Just my personal opinon