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[Gaxe]

Mr. Dynasty originally made a post on this forum excited about Bioware making Mass Effect 3 a "3D ready" product.  Crytek a division of EA is also making their game Crysis 2 in stereoscopic 3D.

EA announced that all their titles would be 3D ready:

Article, PROOF: 3dradar.techradar.com/3d-tech/ea-all-our-games-are-3d-ready-03-11-2010

I was so excited when EA announced that their titles would be 3D ready. This means that Dragon Age II was going to be 3D ready and so would Mass Effect 3.  These words came from EAs mouth. In the business world you honor what you say.

But unfortunately Jesse Houston made a post.. Here are his exact words. They sound like a lawyer.. It 's heart breaking and go against what EA announced..

Jesse Houston: "No where In the article does it confirm or deny that it is 3D enabled. It simply says that it's 3D ready, because the models are already in 3D..."

This post was "Deleted". You know how bad that looks? There are already 4-5 other posts linking to the original topic. They will see that its deleted. ... The truth will be known.

I am respectfully telling everyone that I disagree with Biowares stance on rebelling against EA's 3D ready stance.

Am I wrong here?

"Bioware a Division of EA"..

Then EA says "all our titles will be 3D ready, we just have to flip a switch".............

All I want is for Mass Effect 3 & Dragon Age II to be 3D ready per EA's announcement.

Don't go back on your word, your word is what makes you a man. That's all I ask.

Google has already spidered this topic and it will show up in search engine results. Don't bother deleting it again. EA investors have a right to know that Bioware has no interest in honoring EA's announcment that all its titles will be 3D ready.

UPDATE: WOrd has already caught on at another website:

www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php

Modifié par Gaxe, 23 décembre 2010 - 06:13 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

Stop overreacting. He merely said that it doesn't confirm or deny that the games are 3d enabled. Simple as that. Why do people have to freak out over the simplest things?



-Polite

[Gaxe]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Stop overreacting. He merely said that it doesn't confirm or deny that the games are 3d enabled. Simple as that. Why do people have to freak out over the simplest things?

-Polite

Because I love dragon age & mass effect and if EA said it was going to be 3d ready then I REALLY WANT BIOWARE TO HONOR THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.

Crytek is honoring it so why should bioware go against it?

-polite too

Modifié par Gaxe, 23 décembre 2010 - 06:07 .

[Amyntas]

I don't even know what "3d ready" means. Sorry. It can't be that important ;-) Didn't they also say that every product would be multiplayer, and a mod said ME3 was single-player? EA likes it's marketing, that's all.

[Elite Midget]

3D is a gimmick that's too expensive to catch on at the moment. It's a luxury only for the rich to enjoy during the recession.

[Gaxe]

Amyntas wrote...

I don't even know what "3d ready" means. Sorry. It can't be that important ;-) Didn't they also say that every product would be multiplayer, and a mod said ME3 was single-player? EA likes it's marketing, that's all.

3D ready means you can see the game in 3D with whatever means of 3D you have available either anaglyph,  stereoscopic or polorization.

As long as its one of them then it is 3D ready.

Mass Effect 1, MAss effect 2 , Dragon age were not 3D ready but they were very close, almost 95% close to being 3d ready. All they needed was very very minor optimizations that would of taken their programmers 10 minutes to fix.

[Gaxe]

Elite Midget wrote...

3D is a gimmick that's too expensive to catch on at the moment. It's a luxury only for the rich to enjoy during the recession.

It's expensive I agree, but so is a brand new GTX 570. 

In the years to come when we get around to Mass Effect 4 (which hopefully will be 3D ready) you'll go to me1, me2 and me3 and play them all in stereoscopic 3d and you'll have us to thank for fighting for it so badly.

[Jaron Oberyn]

I'm sorry but 3D is really overrated. That stuff screws up your eyes anyway.



-Polite

[OSUfan12121]

Id rather they work on finishing the game and making it a masterpiece then having to convert it to 3D that only 5% of the population will see in this day and age.

Modifié par OSUfan12121, 23 décembre 2010 - 06:13 .

[darknoon5]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

I'm sorry but 3D is really overrated. That stuff screws up your eyes anyway.

-Polite

I agree.

[Gaxe]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

Id rather they work on finishing the game and making it a masterpiece then having to convert it to 3D that only 5% of the population will see in this day and age.

There is no conversion. It doesn't work that way.  The first step is to make the crosshair transparent. In DirectX almost all objects have a transperancy function that lets you set it.   That should take no longer than 10 seconds. It's practically built in to directx. 

Virtually everything has a transparent option.

The second step is to allow us to disable certain special effects.

...... It's heartbreaking that they can't do such little things.

PoliteAssasin wrote...

I'm sorry but 3D is really overrated. That stuff screws up your eyes anyway.

-Polite

In the 3D world there is an option called depth. NVIDIA allows you to set this as high or as low as you want.  If you crank it up to 100% then yes it can be straining on the eyes.

BUT the reason they allow you to do this is because everyone has a different amount of depth perception.

I can play Mass Effect 1 for 4-5 hours (tops) with 13% depth and the highest convergence possible with zero eye strain. It'st he most comfortable thing I've ever experienced...

This is not hype. I'm sooo picky about perfection and NVIDIA 3d vision has finally delivered it. TRY IT. You can buy NVIDIA 3d vision from fry's electronics and return it if you dont' like it.

Modifié par Gaxe, 23 décembre 2010 - 06:17 .

[DarthRevan4life]

I got to agree with the stance against 3D, I believe it's truly a gimmick and it will eventually fade away given time. Also and sorry to disappoint you Gaxe there won't be a ME4, the game's a trilogy and won't go beyond 3.

[Gaxe]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

I got to agree with the stance against 3D, I believe it's truly a gimmick and it will eventually fade away given time. Also and sorry to disappoint you Gaxe there won't be a ME4, the game's a trilogy and won't go beyond 3.

Have you even tried NVIDIA 3D vision?

... 3D Tvs are a gimmick

3D DLP TV's are a gimmick (due to overscan problems)..

But NVIDIA 3D Vision is amazing... I kid you not. I was sooo blown away with how immersive it it.

[Pacifien]

Saying you are 3D ready is different from actually implementing 3D. I presume that EA leaves it to each individual studio to decide if they want to implement the feature based on if they feel it would would enhance the experience of their games. I personally don't care about 3D in the slightest. I'd say I'm indifferent, but truly, its implementation into BioWare's games would probably annoy me for reasons I don't particularly feel like sharing.



In other news, creating a new account because your other account was banned isn't kosher with me.

[-Skorpious-]

Oh god, what will we do now that ME3 will potentially not include 3D?!

Mass Effect and Bioware are dead to me.

[Lumikki]

How many times we see this same topic been opened and closed?

EA and Bioware isn't exactly same, even if one own other.

Modifié par Lumikki, 23 décembre 2010 - 06:23 .

[Daewan]

If he confirmed it was 3D ready and something went wrong, they would be liable. All BioWare is trying to do is protect themselves from frivolous idiots claiming that they said something that they didn't. They didn't say it. That doesn't mean it isn't true, it just means they're not ready - possibly for other contractual reasons - to say so yet.

Please get off your crazy high horse. If you're so concerned about the future of 3D gaming, start developing 3D games of your own.

[DarthRevan4life]

Gaxe wrote...

DarthRevan4life wrote...

I got to agree with the stance against 3D, I believe it's truly a gimmick and it will eventually fade away given time. Also and sorry to disappoint you Gaxe there won't be a ME4, the game's a trilogy and won't go beyond 3.

Have you even tried NVIDIA 3D vision?

... 3D Tvs are a gimmick

3D DLP TV's are a gimmick (due to overscan problems)..

But NVIDIA 3D Vision is amazing... I kid you not. I was sooo blown away with how immersive it it.

I actually have tried NVIDIA 3D Vision and I'll be honest, it was pretty cool...only problem is after a while it loses it's appeal.  It's like the brand new thing that everybody is fascinated with but after a while it loses it's touch. 

[Gaxe]

Pacifien wrote...

Saying you are 3D ready is different from actually implementing 3D. I presume that EA leaves it to each individual studio to decide if they want to implement the feature based on if they feel it would would enhance the experience of their games. I personally don't care about 3D in the slightest. I'd say I'm indifferent, but truly, its implementation into BioWare's games would probably annoy me for reasons I don't particularly feel like sharing.

Some of us care about immersion in games, you obviously only care about shooting mobs with a gun and skipping through all the dialogue.

[darknoon5]

Gaxe wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Saying you are 3D ready is different from actually implementing 3D. I presume that EA leaves it to each individual studio to decide if they want to implement the feature based on if they feel it would would enhance the experience of their games. I personally don't care about 3D in the slightest. I'd say I'm indifferent, but truly, its implementation into BioWare's games would probably annoy me for reasons I don't particularly feel like sharing.

Some of us care about immersion in games, you obviously only care about shooting mobs with a gun and skipping through all the dialogue.

What?

[Gaxe]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

Gaxe wrote...

DarthRevan4life wrote...

I got to agree with the stance against 3D, I believe it's truly a gimmick and it will eventually fade away given time. Also and sorry to disappoint you Gaxe there won't be a ME4, the game's a trilogy and won't go beyond 3.

Have you even tried NVIDIA 3D vision?

... 3D Tvs are a gimmick

3D DLP TV's are a gimmick (due to overscan problems)..

But NVIDIA 3D Vision is amazing... I kid you not. I was sooo blown away with how immersive it it.

I actually have tried NVIDIA 3D Vision and I'll be honest, it was pretty cool...only problem is after a while it loses it's appeal.  It's like the brand new thing that everybody is fascinated with but after a while it loses it's touch. 

How long ago did you try? When I first tried it 9 months ago I was very unimpressed.  9 months ago it was a TOTAL gimmick, eye straining, too much ghosting.  But as of 2 months ago they fixed so many things. It's amazing how far it's come.

[Gaxe]

darknoon5 wrote...

Gaxe wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Saying you are 3D ready is different from actually implementing 3D. I presume that EA leaves it to each individual studio to decide if they want to implement the feature based on if they feel it would would enhance the experience of their games. I personally don't care about 3D in the slightest. I'd say I'm indifferent, but truly, its implementation into BioWare's games would probably annoy me for reasons I don't particularly feel like sharing.

Some of us care about immersion in games, you obviously only care about shooting mobs with a gun and skipping through all the dialogue.

What?

I wish i could show you the 3D screenshots. Mass effect 1 looks amazing without even being 3D ready.

[DarthRevan4life]

Gaxe wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Saying you are 3D ready is different from actually implementing 3D. I presume that EA leaves it to each individual studio to decide if they want to implement the feature based on if they feel it would would enhance the experience of their games. I personally don't care about 3D in the slightest. I'd say I'm indifferent, but truly, its implementation into BioWare's games would probably annoy me for reasons I don't particularly feel like sharing.

Some of us care about immersion in games, you obviously only care about shooting mobs with a gun and skipping through all the dialogue.

Making a stance is one thing, but pretending to know how someone likes to play their games only begins to invalidate your argument if you're willing to make assumptions on someone else and how they like to play.  As for when I last used NVIDIA 3D, I would say about a month ago I tried it last.

But again 3D isn't for everybody, right now it's catering toward people who have the money to truly use it.  A lot of people get motion sickness from it and others it plain messes with their vision.

[DVACDK]

Honestly Gaxe, to me it sounds like that, since "you" like the Nvidia3d vision then EVERYONE should use it. World dont work that way. 3D is and always will be a gimmick in my eyes, I never needed it to help me get immersed to a game. And before you ask, yes i tried it, tried it at convensions, tried it at friends house for several hours, No it din't hurt my eyes, I just dint see the point.

[darknoon5]

Gaxe wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Gaxe wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Saying you are 3D ready is different from actually implementing 3D. I presume that EA leaves it to each individual studio to decide if they want to implement the feature based on if they feel it would would enhance the experience of their games. I personally don't care about 3D in the slightest. I'd say I'm indifferent, but truly, its implementation into BioWare's games would probably annoy me for reasons I don't particularly feel like sharing.

Some of us care about immersion in games, you obviously only care about shooting mobs with a gun and skipping through all the dialogue.

What?

I wish i could show you the 3D screenshots. Mass effect 1 looks amazing without even being 3D ready.

That has nothing to do with the fact you decided just because somebody wasn't keen on 3D that they play mass effect without immersion in mind...