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[chucktheduck]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Well, this doesn't sound fun at all. More cliché.

I agree

[Blooddrunk1004]

Yeah yeah keep talking and spreading false rumors.

If you know everything about ME3 story then please tell me this:

Suddenly Council will have change in heart and will believe in Reapers, same for the Alliance.

Aria now has the entire Terminus system under her control, the fact that only Omega belongs to her.

If you destroyed the base or told Illusive Man to ****** off, why would TIM still want to cooperate with Shepard in the first place.

Since when is Shepard deciding the fate of Quarians and Geth? I though that was Admirals job.

And about cheating on your LI from ME1. Do you seriously believe they will forgive just because Shepard will speak one line either Paragon/Renegade and thats it?

If your case would be true Bioware would either already posted this news or would block this topic.

[kelsjet]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...
Suddenly Council will have change in heart and will believe in Reapers, same for the Alliance.

You don't need faith to believe when you can see it with your own eyes. Similar to how the council and alliance fleets had to act when sovereign was on the citadel, they will be forced to act when the entire reaper fleet is on earth and elsewhere around council space.

Aria now has the entire Terminus system under her control, the fact that only Omega belongs to her.

Part of the Terminus quests is bringing the major terminus organizations under Aria's command, if you choose to go the Omega route.

If you destroyed the base or told Illusive Man to ****** off, why would TIM still want to cooperate with Shepard in the first place.

He wouldn't. That's why you need to choose to either side with TIM through a 'recruitment quest' and gain his favor (by offing Aria) or to side with Omega and off TIM. If you saved the base, you will fall out of favor with TIM since he does not want to bring other races to help mankind (as well as being unwilling to share his findings with other races for the benefit of all), but you do, bringing your relationship with him back to square one.

Since when is Shepard deciding the fate of Quarians and Geth? I though that was Admirals job.

Shepard isn't "deciding" anything. As a player controlling Shepard, you can influence the outcome of the Admiralty board's decisions, like anyone who has played a certain someones loyalty quest in ME2 can tell you. It is a similar idea here.

And about cheating on your LI from ME1. Do you seriously believe they will forgive just because Shepard will speak one line either Paragon/Renegade and thats it?

Yes.
(though, again, I don't need to have 'faith' and 'believe' something when I can see it with my own eyes and know it to be true).

[sh8dneji]

Though your story is quite intriguing there are some questions that I would like to ask.

1.
Why would the Reapers make a relay to earth when their most common way
to purge the galaxy is through the citadel and would they enough energy
to attack or even move after 50,000 years of hibernating.  

2.
I have no problem with your point of “recruiting” other races to help.
But if the Reapers are defeated and gone, then there is a power vacuum
that is waiting to be filled and the following question would be “who is
the new ruler of the galaxy?”.

3.
It is implied in your point of “deaths” that everyone from Mass Effect 2
survives. What happens to the plot if the team is only Shepard, Grunt
and Gurrus?  Also what happens if you don’t recruit some one in Mass
Effect 2?  Zaeed and Kasumi are download-able characters, what if you
don’t download them in ME2 are they just added in for good measure or
what?

4. In a following post from your OP, you hinted that the Reapers could do a-
Assuming Direct Control. Shepard, with your own hands you will tear the heart
out of your loved one. With your own hand you will snuff out their
light. Your soul will be tore Shepard and in despair realize that We are
your salvation though death and all that you have done is in vain. This
form is weak releasing control....

(blasted standed fromat)<_<

Modifié par sh8dneji, 25 décembre 2010 - 01:01 .

[kelsjet]

sh8dneji wrote...
1.
Why would the Reapers make a relay to earth when their most common way
to purge the galaxy is through the citadel and would they enough energy
to attack or even move after 50,000 years of hibernating.

Sorry if I wasn't clearer earlier. They don't make a relay *directly* to earth. They make a relay that connects to the closest node in the existing network. They then cross the galaxy just like everyone else.
They attack most major points of interest first, i.e. they send the bulk of their forces to all the important places, earth being one of them. The citadel also gets hit.

2.
I have no problem with your point of “recruiting” other races to help.
But if the Reapers are defeated and gone, then there is a power vacuum
that is waiting to be filled and the following question would be “who is
the new ruler of the galaxy?”.

Exactly. The aftermath of the battle (if you succeed) depends a lot on who survives. There will be powershifts if your choices lead to it. e.g. if you side with Cerebus and the citadel races get hit hard/wiped out, the galaxy will be thrown into an era of Human dominance.

Remember, ME3 is only the end of Shepard's story. The ME universe still has a lot of stuff to explore (hint: maybe in other games? )

3.
It is implied in your point of “deaths” that everyone from Mass Effect 2
survives. What happens to the plot if the team is only Shepard, Grunt
and Gurrus?  Also what happens if you don’t recruit some one in Mass
Effect 2?  Zaeed and Kasumi are download-able characters, what if you
don’t download them in ME2 are they just added in for good measure or
what?

The team members stories only happen if those team members survive, new characters will be placed in those important decision points if they didn't survive (think of how Wrex was handled from ME1. If wrex lived, he was there. If he didn't a new Krogan is there). Take the decision point to kill/save Mordin during the Krogan recruitment "hardening" quests. If Mordin lived, he will be on the chopping block. If he didn't, another member of his team (a salarian who worked on the genophage) will be on the chopping block. Also, there is a host of new teammates which will be present to serve similar purposes throughout.

4. In a following post from your OP, you hinted that the Reapers could do a-[b]
Assuming Direct Control. Shepard, with your own hands you will tear the heart out of your loved one.

The reapers cannot take full control of Shepard. Lets just say Miranda and TIM weren't totally honest with you about the extent of the modifications Cerberus did on you during Project Lazarus. They didn't tell you about it since if they did, they would have to disclose how Cerberus managed to pull off that kind of tech, which means she would have to tell you about the 1000s of test subjects that were tortured and experimented on to get you implanted with the tech. (you are basically a more intense and larger scale version of what they did to Jack).

N.b. obviously this is revealed in ME3, which is one of the reasons you start out sour with Cerberus (you can ignore it and choose to 'recruit' cerberus regardless though).

Modifié par kelsjet, 25 décembre 2010 - 01:25 .

[sh8dneji]

Well thanks for clearing up some questions. But still I hope for a play after the end like in Mass effect 2.

Edit: Since you seem to know alot of ME3 will there be any other SPECTERs or N7s?

Modifié par sh8dneji, 25 décembre 2010 - 01:54 .

[belwin]

sh8dneji wrote...

Edit: Since you seem to know alot of ME3...

seem being the operative word.

it's just speculation dude.

[kelsjet]

belwin wrote...

sh8dneji wrote...

Edit: Since you seem to know alot of ME3...

seem being the operative word.

it's just speculation dude.

/facepalm

Ok "dude", if you say so, /rollseyes
They always said, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't stop people trolling a forum thread.
/sigh

p.s. Next time you come into a thread, try to contribute a little more than just "NO U!"

sh8dneji wrote...

Well thanks for clearing up some questions. But still I hope for a play after the end like in Mass effect 2.

Edit: Since you seem to know alot of ME3 will there be any other SPECTERs or N7s?

Your welcome.

And yes, there are other N7s and Specters, but not in the way you think. You don't get to fight alongside a specter, if that's what you are asking. As for N7s, what do you think happened to Ashley Williams?

[Zulu_DFA]

No.

This is how ME3 is going to be:

Shepard is tried/interrogated and locked up in prison. In a couple of years Liara and Feron help him escape. Shepard travels with Liara to Ilos, where they discover that Vigil was an agent of the Reapers. Boom. Reapers invade Earth.

Shepard has to travel to Omega to seek out the Mad Prophet, who turns out to be the last surviving Batarian who was in touch with the Leviathan of Dis (aka Sovereign), and knows a clue to the Reapers' agenda. It also turns out Sovereign was a "rogue" Reaper, and its actions triggered Harbinger's plans earlier than scheduled, thus contributing to the Galaxy's salvation (which wasn't Sovereign's intention but still would kinda posthumously exonerate Saren).

At some point Shepard gets indoctrinated himself and through a link to Harbinger is made privy to all the truth about the Reapers' motives, goals and maybe even origins. Liara brings Shepard to Cerberus, whereupon Shepard gets de-indoctrinated. TIM tells him that the anti-Reaper super-virus is in the cooking. If the Collector Base has been preserved, the cooking will be faster. But to deploy the virus, Shepard has to assault Harbinger's bowels on foot, which requires engaging its battlegroup of Reapers in an all out space battle during which Shepard with the squad will be inserted.

Shepard naturally has to visit the Citadel, to make sure the fleets assemble. If the Old Council has been saved, the assembly will go faster and smoother. However, there may be some setbacks:

If the Rachni queen has been released, the Rachni attack and the Council fleets are distracted. If Wrex is alive and/or the genophage cure has been preserved, the Krogans come up against the Rachni, thus relieving the Council fleets somewhat.

If Legion's loyalty mission hasn't been completed (Legion sent to Cerberus), all Geth become heretics and attack, thus distracting the Council's fleets. If the Quarians have been encouraged to go to war (and the Migrant Fleet's integrity wasn't jeopardized) they counter the Geth attacks. If Legion's loyalty mission has been accomplished and the Quarians have been discouraged from going to war (or the Migrant fleet has lost its integrity over the public exposure of Rael'Zorah's experiments), the Geth arrive to help against the Reapers.

The final choice will be very personal and possibly affect Liara's fate.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 28 décembre 2010 - 07:07 .

[Fixers0]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

No.

This is how ME3 is going to be:

Shepard is tried/interrogated and locked up in prison. In a couple of years Liara and Feron help him escape. Shepard travels with Liara to Ilos, where they discover that Vigil was an agent of the Reapers. Boom. Reapers invade Earth.

Shepard has to travel to Omega to seek out the Mad Prophet, who turns out to be the last surviving Batarian who was in touch with the Leviathan of Dis (aka Sovereign), and knows a clue to the Reapers' agenda. It also turns out Sovereign was a "rogue" Reaper, and its actions triggered Harbinger's plans earlier than scheduled, thus contributing to the Galaxy's salvation (which wasn't Sovereign's intention but still would kinda posthumously exonerate Saren).

At some point Shepard gets indoctrinated himself and through a link to Harbinger is made privy to all the truth about the Reapers' motives, goals and maybe even origins. Liara brings Shepard to Cerberus, whereupon Shepard gets de-indoctrinated. TIM tells him that the anti-Reaper super-virus is in the cooking. If the Collector Base has been preserved, the cooking will be faster. But to deploy the virus, Shepard has to assault Harbinger's bowels on foot, which requires engaging its battlegroup of Reapers in an all out space battle during which Shepard with the squad will be inserted.

Shepard naturally has to visit the Citadel, to make sure the fleets assemble. If the Old Council has been saved, the assembly will go faster and smoother. However, there may be some setbacks:

If the Rachni queen has been released, the Rachni attack and the Council fleets are distracted. If Wrex is alive and/or the genophage cure has been preserved, the Krogans come up against the Rachni, thus relieving the Council fleets somewhat.

If Legion's loyalty mission hasn't been completed (Legion sent to Cerberus), all Geth become heretics and attack, thus distracting the Council's fleets. If the Quarians have been encouraged to go to war (and the Migrant Fleet's integrity wasn't jeopardized) they counter the Geth attacks. If Legion's loyalty mission has been accomplished and the Quarians have been discouraged from going to war (or the Migrant fleet has lost its integrity over the public exposure of Rael'Zorah's experiments), the Geth arrive to help against the Reapers.

The final choice will be very personal and possibly affect Liara's fate.

No

This contradicts  the entire backstory and purpose of both games.

[Zulu_DFA]

Fixers0 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

No.

This is how ME3 is going to be:

Shepard is tried/interrogated and locked up in prison. In a couple of years Liara and Feron help him escape. Shepard travels with Liara to Ilos, where they discover that Vigil was an agent of the Reapers. Boom. Reapers invade Earth.

Shepard has to travel to Omega to seek out the Mad Prophet, who turns out to be the last surviving Batarian who was in touch with the Leviathan of Dis (aka Sovereign), and knows a clue to the Reapers' agenda. It also turns out Sovereign was a "rogue" Reaper, and its actions triggered Harbinger's plans earlier than scheduled, thus contributing to the Galaxy's salvation (which wasn't Sovereign's intention but still would kinda posthumously exonerate Saren).

At some point Shepard gets indoctrinated himself and through a link to Harbinger is made privy to all the truth about the Reapers' motives, goals and maybe even origins. Liara brings Shepard to Cerberus, whereupon Shepard gets de-indoctrinated. TIM tells him that the anti-Reaper super-virus is in the cooking. If the Collector Base has been preserved, the cooking will be faster. But to deploy the virus, Shepard has to assault Harbinger's bowels on foot, which requires engaging its battlegroup of Reapers in an all out space battle during which Shepard with the squad will be inserted.

Shepard naturally has to visit the Citadel, to make sure the fleets assemble. If the Old Council has been saved, the assembly will go faster and smoother. However, there may be some setbacks:

If the Rachni queen has been released, the Rachni attack and the Council fleets are distracted. If Wrex is alive and/or the genophage cure has been preserved, the Krogans come up against the Rachni, thus relieving the Council fleets somewhat.

If Legion's loyalty mission hasn't been completed (Legion sent to Cerberus), all Geth become heretics and attack, thus distracting the Council's fleets. If the Quarians have been encouraged to go to war (and the Migrant Fleet's integrity wasn't jeopardized) they counter the Geth attacks. If Legion's loyalty mission has been accomplished and the Quarians have been discouraged from going to war (or the Migrant fleet has lost its integrity over the public exposure of Rael'Zorah's experiments), the Geth arrive to help against the Reapers.

The final choice will be very personal and possibly affect Liara's fate.

No

This contradicts  the entire backstory and purpose of both games.

Mmm... Care to formulate the backstory and the purpose of both games?

Anyway, even if it contradicts something, that's why it's called a "plot twist". Who could have thought in ME1 that Cerberus are actually the good guys?

[Fixers0]

 Well, all your theory's are intent to destroy the entire backstory of your game.

you have made up a whole theory about Sovereign, Vigal, and the Citadel Relay, and how they were all actually fake, and that something entirely different is going to happen, just by something that aren't explictly explained in game. this completly defeats the whole purpose of the orginal game as well as main plot behind mass effect.

Also to The Original author: Nice try, you got me for one mili second.

Modifié par Fixers0, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:34 .

[The Fan]

 why did i read this? It might be fake but im not sure. None of my favorite characters die so im fine. WIKILEAKS! CURSE YOU ALL TO HELL!

[Computron2000]

Yes its absolutely true! But if you mail 90% of your bank account balance to Bioware, you'll be able to change anything in game! But it must be 90% and Bioware knows because they have Geth monitoring you right now!

Yes Geth are REAL! Bioware is just a front! Aliens are using the Mass Effect games to test if mankind is ready to communicate with them! Asari, turians, quarians are all real!

Sorry, the volus are fake though...

Modifié par Computron2000, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:37 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Fixers0 wrote...

 Well, all your theory's are intent to destroy the entire backstory of your game.

you have made up a whole theory about Sovereign, Vigal, and the Citadel Relay, and how they were all actually fake, and that something entirely different is going to happen, just by something that aren't explictly explained in game. this completly defeats the whole purpose of the orginal game as well as main plot behind mass effect.

Well, we kinda know for sure these days that "something entirely different is going to happen". Namely, the Reapers are going to invade despite Vigil's claims that sealing off the Citadel would trap them in the Dark Space. Seeing how the Reapers have little trouble in getting to the Milky Way in a few years (which is really a blink of an eye by their standards), one can't help but ask what's the point of the Citadel, and of leaving Sovereign behind.

[Fixers0]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

 Well, all your theory's are intent to destroy the entire backstory of your game.

you have made up a whole theory about Sovereign, Vigal, and the Citadel Relay, and how they were all actually fake, and that something entirely different is going to happen, just by something that aren't explictly explained in game. this completly defeats the whole purpose of the orginal game as well as main plot behind mass effect.

Well, we kinda know for sure these days that "something entirely different is going to happen". Namely, the Reapers are going to invade despite Vigil's claims that sealing off the Citadel would trap them in the Dark Space. Seeing how the Reapers have little trouble in getting to the Milky Way in a few years (which is really a blink of an eye by their standards), one can't help but ask what's the point of the Citadel, and of leaving Sovereign behind.

We shall, i can't speculate on what's going to hapen or what bioware has in mind, i am just somewhat anoyed on how sure you are that your theory is right and that will be happening. 

[Milana_Saros]

kelsjet wrote...

either Zaeed/Kasumi (depending on your choice).

So basic ME3 story will feature purchaseable DLC characters? Sure sure, whatever ya say buddy.

My BS sensors are beeping. And that goes for the whole topic.

[thetruefreemo]

I'm seeing a few problems with this speculation. First is why the Reapers would build a mass relay in dark space? That would ruin the entire game because they would already be there in the first place and wipe everyone out. I see them flying to our galaxy and we don't really see them until later in the game. Second, the council species wouldn't be a sure thing if we are recruiting; because you can decline specter service or there's the renegade ending of ME1 or working with Cerberus still and most of those would make them hate you. With the KroganThey might not even go for it if you recruit the Rachni. I kind of agree with your Quarian Geth idea but I see five ways: Geth die, Quarians die, both die, Peace between them, Geth fall back under Quarian control. Your Terminus vs. Cerberus idea just seams dumb though; Aria and TIM have made buisines agreements before so they don't really hate eachother. I see more of an Aliance vs. Cerberus scenario and a Terminus vs. Council scenario. As for the deaths you predicted, none of them have any reasoning behind them; most of those characters could have died before ME3. With your mix theory, I think that it would be more like ME2's ending but I can't got into too much detail since spoilers aren't allowed. Your LI theory is okay but I think that it will come down to a choice between the one or two LI's you had from ME1&2 and any new LI's you have in ME3; Paragon or Renegade points will not get you a threesome as you suggest. Your ending battle scenario is kind of vague; it will probably be more like the loyalty system in ME2. End of line this.

[Zulu_DFA]

Fixers0 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

 Well, all your theory's are intent to destroy the entire backstory of your game.

you have made up a whole theory about Sovereign, Vigal, and the Citadel Relay, and how they were all actually fake, and that something entirely different is going to happen, just by something that aren't explictly explained in game. this completly defeats the whole purpose of the orginal game as well as main plot behind mass effect.

Well, we kinda know for sure these days that "something entirely different is going to happen". Namely, the Reapers are going to invade despite Vigil's claims that sealing off the Citadel would trap them in the Dark Space. Seeing how the Reapers have little trouble in getting to the Milky Way in a few years (which is really a blink of an eye by their standards), one can't help but ask what's the point of the Citadel, and of leaving Sovereign behind.

We shall, i can't speculate on what's going to hapen or what bioware has in mind, i am just somewhat anoyed on how sure you are that your theory is right and that will be happening. 

Look at the bright side: the more certain I am of my theories, the more lulz for you if I am proven wrong.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 28 décembre 2010 - 09:01 .

[Fixers0]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

 Well, all your theory's are intent to destroy the entire backstory of your game.

you have made up a whole theory about Sovereign, Vigal, and the Citadel Relay, and how they were all actually fake, and that something entirely different is going to happen, just by something that aren't explictly explained in game. this completly defeats the whole purpose of the orginal game as well as main plot behind mass effect.

Well, we kinda know for sure these days that "something entirely different is going to happen". Namely, the Reapers are going to invade despite Vigil's claims that sealing off the Citadel would trap them in the Dark Space. Seeing how the Reapers have little trouble in getting to the Milky Way in a few years (which is really a blink of an eye by their standards), one can't help but ask what's the point of the Citadel, and of leaving Sovereign behind.

We shall, i can't speculate on what's going to hapen or what bioware has in mind, i am just somewhat anoyed on how sure you are that your theory is right and that will be happening. 

Look at the bright side: the more certain I am of my theories, the more lulz for you if I am proven wrong.

Well i don't take any enjoyment in trying to convince that you should't make such obivous wrong theory's.

To the Orginal Author, Nice try but way the obivous, i there is no confirmation or proof for your post.

Modifié par Fixers0, 28 décembre 2010 - 09:21 .

[eldav]

I wish shepard would die in the last chapter, but thanks to ME2 opening sequence it dosent really matter no more (way to go writers)

Worst fear....Mass effect 3 = Matrix 3.

[JamieCOTC]

What's that quaint human expression?  Link or it didn't happen.  Just substitute link  w/ source and "it didn't happen" w/ "it's not true." 

Although, I must say taking out Cerberus would be a joy.  The rest kinda sucks.  Too much like DA:O.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 28 décembre 2010 - 10:03 .

[thetruefreemo]

Milana_Saros wrote...

kelsjet wrote...

either Zaeed/Kasumi (depending on your choice).

So basic ME3 story will feature purchaseable DLC characters? Sure sure, whatever ya say buddy.

My BS sensors are beeping. And that goes for the whole topic.

Well Terra Nova was mentioned in the citadel news reports But yes I agree; to quote the shaman "Hah!!! I like this human, she understands." 

[Gojiroth]

I mean no offence to the OP, but I greatly doubt this. I mean, even if you are right (Can't say either way, you seem sure enough.), you are posting spoiler details (true or false) to a discussion with NO SPOILERS ALLOWED. This worries me though, because it sounds like a sound idea. This is my first post, so forgive me if I come across as rude.

P.S. This may seem hypocritical, but , in this concept, is the whole "Shepard is forced to fight his squad" thing cutscene or gameplay? 

[JFarr74]

None of this is true. It's a good story, but he probably just made it up.