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[HunterX6]

;future. so if you talk to legion alot, you will come across him finally saying what future are the geth building. He says they are making a structure that for humans its about the same as a dyson sphere. He claims they have been building it for the past 194 years or 294 I cant remember. For the ones that doesnt know what a dyson sphere is I will put a picture below: You can see it sillt under construction and they are building it around a start for its energy power. To the left you can even see that one of the moons is being mined for resources to build the dyson sphere, obviously they will need more moons,asteroids and other solar systems resources to finish it.

So what do you think are the geth intention will be in the end once they finish building it?

[TelexFerra]

That would be a huge undertaking. The Geth would have limitless power if this were true.

[Vaenier]

They are not building a Dyson Sphere. It is a hell of alot smaller than that. He used Dyson Sphere as an example of a construct humans would use for the same purpose.

[DaVanguard]

reach a consensus

[vargatom]

I sooooo want this Geth construct to feature as a level in ME3.

[Vaenier]

Also, that picture is not a Dyson Sphere. That is a picture of a Forerunner shield world being constructed. A Dyson Sphere has a radius of 1 AU, earth's distance from the sun.

Any race capable of building a Dyson Sphere does not need one.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

At arny rate it is probably something that will have a star in its center for an endless energy source and it would end up being massive. If its completed during ME3 than Shepard could ask the Geth to us it as a weapon against the Reapers.... Then the game would be easy.



Qucik Legion tell them to shot a Mt. Everest sized missle of pure star matterial at that Reaper!

*Reaper burns and dies*



That was easy.

[AlexMBrennan]

Note: Forerunner shield world is Halo, Dyson sphere is real

[Iakus]

I believe they're building a single ginormous platform to hold all the geth. Since geth intelligence increases the more of them that are around, all of them combined would be the Ultimate Geth, a single being holding the totality of the geth experience. Think Legion but many orders of magnitude more so.

[HunterX6]

Vaenier wrote...

Also, that picture is not a Dyson Sphere. That is a picture of a Forerunner shield world being constructed. A Dyson Sphere has a radius of 1 AU, earth's distance from the sun.
Any race capable of building a Dyson Sphere does not need one.

SILENCE! but true, though it does look like a dyson sphere construct like, geth doesnt need it to look like a planet like it shows above since they dont really need gravity or oxygen. they are more likely to make it looking like this: but the first picture shows how they gain the resources and it just look more epic

Modifié par HunterX6, 24 décembre 2010 - 12:20 .

[Spartas Husky]

To be around i star doubt it would be nearly done in just 2 centuries... on top of being VERY very fragile... something hundreds of times bigger thana star.... dont know how you can defend that against a concentrated attack... maybe like a star forge type of station above a star.... that I can sort of imagine though to get the star's energy.



Still very very nice imagine.

[Vaenier]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

vargatom wrote...

I sooooo want this Geth construct to feature as a level in ME3.

This.

There wont be any air, or any gravity. It wont even have a star, just a contained fusion reactor.

It will be the Heretic station, but with a bunch more hallways.

[HunterX6]

Vaenier wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

vargatom wrote...

I sooooo want this Geth construct to feature as a level in ME3.

This.

There wont be any air, or any gravity. It wont even have a star, just a contained fusion reactor.

It will be the Heretic station, but with a bunch more hallways.

"A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure originally described by Freeman Dyson. Such a "sphere" would be a system of orbiting solar power satellites meant to completely encompass a star and capture most or all of its energy output."

so it will have a star inside it or withing its "range". "encompass"=Definition of ENCOMPASS[/i]transitive verb1a[/i] : to form a circle about b[/i] obsolete : to go completely around

Modifié par HunterX6, 24 décembre 2010 - 12:27 .

[Pacifien]

HunterX6 wrote...
So what do you think are the geth intention will be in the end once they finish building it?

Technological singularity.

[Vaenier]

HunterX6 wrote...

"A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure originally described by Freeman Dyson. Such a "sphere" would be a system of orbiting solar power satellites meant to completely encompass a star and capture most or all of its energy output."

so it will have a star inside it or withing its "range"

But they are not building a Dyson Sphere. It would be stupid to do so, a complete waste of resources. And they dont have any reason to do to either, they have no means to use that energy. Lastly they dont even have the means to build it in ten thousand years, let alone 200.

Modifié par Vaenier, 24 décembre 2010 - 12:31 .

[Pacifien]

HunterX6 wrote...
"A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure originally described by Freeman Dyson. Such a "sphere" would be a system of orbiting solar power satellites meant to completely encompass a star and capture most or all of its energy output."

so it will have a star inside it or withing its "range". "encompass"=Definition of ENCOMPASS[/i]transitive verb1a[/i] : to form a circle about b[/i] obsolete : to go completely around

Such would be a dyson sphere, but Legion is very particular with his words in that he states it is something analogous to a dyson sphere. This makes me wonder what is like a dyson sphere but not. A structure the scope of a dyson sphere using something other than a star as its source of energy seems likely.

[vargatom]

What I have in mind would look kinda like the Presidium, but much much bigger, with a star floating above your head. Sure it's hard to do on current consoles, but one can always hope...



Then again it wouldn't have to be that big. Geth programs don't take up that much space, all they need is a really big computer. And lots of cooling.

[Pacifien]

Vaenier wrote...
But they are not building a Dyson Sphere. It would be stupid to do so, a complete waste of resources. And they dont have any reason to do to either, they have no means to use that energy. Lastly they dont even have the means to build it in ten thousand years, let alone 200.

A dyson sphere is an efficient method of harnessing near 100% of the energy output of a star. Efficiency likely appeals to the the geth, and Legion even mentions how the geth's weakness is in their proximity to each other. I imagine Legion is trying to describe a Matrioshka brain as a means for the geth to optimize their computational power both in energy and proximity.

Modifié par Pacifien, 24 décembre 2010 - 12:35 .

[HunterX6]

Pacifien wrote...

Vaenier wrote...
But they are not building a Dyson Sphere. It would be stupid to do so, a complete waste of resources. And they dont have any reason to do to either, they have no means to use that energy. Lastly they dont even have the means to build it in ten thousand years, let alone 200.

A dyson sphere is an efficient method of harnessing near 100% of the energy output of a star. Efficiency likely appeals to the the geth, and Legion even mentions how the geth's weakness is in their proximity to each other. I imagine Legion is trying to describe a Matrioshka brain as a means for the geth to optimize their computational power both in energy and proximity.

A Matrioshka brain? isnt that a jupiter brain or something like that? as the planet they are suspicious about in mass effect 1 called ploba. I readed  "that a sufficiently omnipotent species utilizing enough raw processing power could launch attacks upon, and manipulate, the structure of the universe itself" using it or one of its uses.

Modifié par HunterX6, 24 décembre 2010 - 12:41 .

[In Exile]

Vaenier wrote...
But they are not building a Dyson Sphere. It would be stupid to do so, a complete waste of resources. And they dont have any reason to do to either, they have no means to use that energy. Lastly they dont even have the means to build it in ten thousand years, let alone 200.

It isn't about the energy. As I understood it, what the geth want is such a huge platform that they can hook up all the geth to it at the same time, to make Voltron some kind of super-geth singularity.

[Pacifien]

A Jupiter Brain is about the size of a planet. A Matrioshka Brain is like a series of dyson shells surrounding a star for the purpose of computation. Similar aside from scope.

[Vaenier]

Pacifien wrote...

A Jupiter Brain is about the size of a planet. A Matrioshka Brain is like a series of dyson shells surrounding a star for the purpose of computation. Similar aside from scope.

So if a Dyson Sphere is impossible/impractacle for them to construct, how are they supoed to build multiple spheres for the M brain?

The Jupiter Brain sounds alot more feasable. Also alot more useful seeing how there arent that many Geth to fill a Dyson Sphere with.