Obviously the tinfoil miniskirt and thigh-high boots reference fails here, but I'll take solace in the fact that Ashley fans probably got it.
Ashley could be hotter
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#52
Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 02:02
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Bogsnot1 wrote...
In other news, Yvonne looks hotter in real life than she does in game. Something to do with how the digitising of faces works perhaps.
The way we view a persons facial characteristics are based on the miniscule differences said face has between the left and right halves, which comes down to defining the face millimetre by millimetre. These imbalances tend to get smoothed over, as they average out the differences between left and right.
To truly recreate a face, the resolution would have to be so fine so to require a seperate dvd just for facial models.
I remember... the model thatw as used for Empress of Time Kayleena in Prince of Persia Warrior within... her 3d character turned out better than the model herself....
I guess Miranda is the opposite, the character turned out worse than the Model lol....
It should be an insult to Yvonne that Miranda turned out with the Jaw of Silverster stalone.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 02:03
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Pacifien wrote...
Obviously the tinfoil miniskirt and thigh-high boots reference fails here, but I'll take solace in the fact that Ashley fans probably got it.
Lol, we got it.
I would squeal at a tinfoil miniskirt and thigh-high boots, errr, cutscene in ME3 with Ash
Come on Bioware!!
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 02:09
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I'm not sure how you can think this isn't an inflammatory thing to ask.
Whether Ashley is "attractive" or not by any standards is thoroughly irrelevant. She looks the way she looks and no superficial outcry will change that.
And personally, I happen to find her the most attractive human squad member in either game, save only Jack.
Jack would be waaaaaay hotter with hair and you know this.
Hell yes.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 02:35
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*ahem*
This is a picture of Ashley in Mass Effect 2. In case you haven't noticed, she is gorgeous. She doesn't need to have soft facial features or long hair to make that apparent. In fact, strong bold features make her more attractive if you ask me, because she looks like a real person, a soldier.
Here she is in Mass Effect 1, shortly after Eden Prime.
Now, if you ask me. That's beauty incarnate, lips you could kiss for days, pretty eyes and the beginning of a smile. You can clearly see her softer feminine side in this picture and it co-incides with her strong feminine side in the first picture.
Just because she has strong facial structure doesn't mean she's 'masculine', rather I believe that strong facial features are symbolic in our society as images of heroism and bravery. Such things can apply to women or men.
Point is, she is not only fine but she is fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine the way she is. It was a bold idea on Bioware's part that they made the game's leading lady into a character who didn't look like a playboy bunny, instead like a real person. She is attractive just the way she is.
Yeah, okay so the uncanny valley gets her a few times but hey, it happens to most all the females in Mass Effect.
This is a picture of Ashley in Mass Effect 2. In case you haven't noticed, she is gorgeous. She doesn't need to have soft facial features or long hair to make that apparent. In fact, strong bold features make her more attractive if you ask me, because she looks like a real person, a soldier.
Here she is in Mass Effect 1, shortly after Eden Prime.
Now, if you ask me. That's beauty incarnate, lips you could kiss for days, pretty eyes and the beginning of a smile. You can clearly see her softer feminine side in this picture and it co-incides with her strong feminine side in the first picture.
Just because she has strong facial structure doesn't mean she's 'masculine', rather I believe that strong facial features are symbolic in our society as images of heroism and bravery. Such things can apply to women or men.
Point is, she is not only fine but she is fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine the way she is. It was a bold idea on Bioware's part that they made the game's leading lady into a character who didn't look like a playboy bunny, instead like a real person. She is attractive just the way she is.
Yeah, okay so the uncanny valley gets her a few times but hey, it happens to most all the females in Mass Effect.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 03:19
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Lets keep in mind the shock value that having sex in a game was about to have. Making her look like a dam playboy bunny would have just shined horrible feedback on Bioware for something that was about to make waves. She's hot in her own way. It's not like Liara was that much better in ME1, other than the whole "Embrace Eternity" thing. 
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 03:27
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From a practical standpoint, how Ash looks as a soldier is close to realistic. The two gals from the Israeli Sniping School, from the pic it looks like they are at a information fair or doing promotional, possibly recruiting work. Ash on the other hand, she would conform to current regulations within the US military services (i.e. Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force). No make up, can't have debris falling into the eyes on missions and her hair is tied back to allow for free movement and again, not having her hair impair her line of sight.
As for Ash's observed masculine features. It really comes down to personal taste. Her personality also plays a role in how she is perceived. She has a strong personality so her appearance takes on those unconscious attributes. She's a no nonsense, strong, determined woman and her appearance matches those characteristics.
She would not be every man's or woman's cup of tea but she is a well developed and beautiful character. She has more character than the other more "feminine" females.
As for Ash's observed masculine features. It really comes down to personal taste. Her personality also plays a role in how she is perceived. She has a strong personality so her appearance takes on those unconscious attributes. She's a no nonsense, strong, determined woman and her appearance matches those characteristics.
She would not be every man's or woman's cup of tea but she is a well developed and beautiful character. She has more character than the other more "feminine" females.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 03:32
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Could Ashley be hotter probably but I like her the way she is.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 04:29
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Ash is a soldier, not a ****. We already have Miranda for that role.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 04:35
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In all fairness, you could be hotter, too.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 04:45
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Ashwraith wrote...
In all fairness, you could be hotter, too.
/thread
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 05:00
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My only issue is the in ME2 multiple females in cut scenes have their breasts kind of low it seems. It might be an optical illusion or something, but they seem to be more mid torso instead of mid-high. It looks off enough that it distracts me from the movie sequence. Other than that once Ash de-racists a bit in ME1 she is hot to me.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 06:49
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Ashley looks ok to me. Not attractive but not ugly either. No need to to go around making her hotter or give her a better hairstyle, it just be like sexualizing a character for the benefit of some of the fanbois.
I have a slight dislike for her character and making her hotter would make no difference.
I have a slight dislike for her character and making her hotter would make no difference.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 07:09
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You know, you just solved what had been bugging me about Miranda. Stallone Jaw syndrome.Spartas Husky wrote...
Bogsnot1 wrote...
In other news, Yvonne looks hotter in real life than she does in game. Something to do with how the digitising of faces works perhaps.
The way we view a persons facial characteristics are based on the miniscule differences said face has between the left and right halves, which comes down to defining the face millimetre by millimetre. These imbalances tend to get smoothed over, as they average out the differences between left and right.
To truly recreate a face, the resolution would have to be so fine so to require a seperate dvd just for facial models.
I remember... the model thatw as used for Empress of Time Kayleena in Prince of Persia Warrior within... her 3d character turned out better than the model herself....
I guess Miranda is the opposite, the character turned out worse than the Model lol....
It should be an insult to Yvonne that Miranda turned out with the Jaw of Silverster stalone.
Her jaw is far less square in life than it is in game.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 07:09
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I wouldn't mind if they sexualized her more. It's a sci-fi fantasy game after all and it would match her sexy voice. I picked her in the first ME because she has the most interesting personality IMHO. The other women were either too boring, superficial, insane, or abrasive for my tastes.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 07:17
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Bogsnot1 wrote...
You know, you just solved what had been bugging me about Miranda. Stallone Jaw syndrome.Spartas Husky wrote...
Bogsnot1 wrote...
In other news, Yvonne looks hotter in real life than she does in game. Something to do with how the digitising of faces works perhaps.
The way we view a persons facial characteristics are based on the miniscule differences said face has between the left and right halves, which comes down to defining the face millimetre by millimetre. These imbalances tend to get smoothed over, as they average out the differences between left and right.
To truly recreate a face, the resolution would have to be so fine so to require a seperate dvd just for facial models.
I remember... the model thatw as used for Empress of Time Kayleena in Prince of Persia Warrior within... her 3d character turned out better than the model herself....
I guess Miranda is the opposite, the character turned out worse than the Model lol....
It should be an insult to Yvonne that Miranda turned out with the Jaw of Silverster stalone.
Her jaw is far less square in life than it is in game.
ur welcome.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 09:20
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You know if Miranda had her hair up she might look better 
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 09:30
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Maybe they just weren't going for super model looks with Ashley. Is there anything wrong with that? No. Nothing wrong with an average jane look. Besides, she's a soldier! Looking good isn't her job.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 09:38
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BiancoAngelo7 wrote...
Seriously, I like her just as much as the next guy, but in all of her concept art, or box art she looks like a major BABE, and then in game she looks pretty bland, especially her face, where she has quite a masculine element.
I know its not a big deal and they probably wont change it, hell Im not even sure theyll bring her back in ME3.
but still, unless you really really like her personality, her looks are definitely not gonna entice me to keep her over Liara, Tali or especially Mirandas "genetically enhanced" ... features.
Please don't hate on my appraisal of Ashley's looks, Im not saying shes ugly, just that they could have made her as hot as she is in her art pics and box art. Not to mention with that voice I would have liked her to have a prettier face.
What do you all think?
BiancoAngelo7 could be a better poaster, if he stopped making terrible threads.
What do you all think?
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 09:40
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I'm not really an Ash fan, but she is a handsome woman.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 10:10
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Regarding Mirand - eh, digital faces can turn out pretty bad. I started watching Chuck a few months after buying Mass Effect 2 on release and up until that time I was wondering why everyone though Miranda was beautiful. I know now, and I still don't like the "digital" Yvonne in ME2.
As for Ashley... well, she looks great in the CGI trailer for the original Mass Effect: (Miranda does too in the Blur CGI trailer).
I haven't played the original Mass Effect since upgrading to my current HD4770, but I remember that on my old rig there was an unnerving clipping issue with her eyes. I don't mind the face but Ashley has the worst eye animation out of all squad members in both games and it creeps me out. Plus, her hair looks more plastic than the rest, and they're not great too. Not the hairdo, I mean, the way the model and texture look, just fake. Morringan's hair texture would make her far more realistic.
She's still my favorite main female character in Mass Effect, though. Simply because she's the most realistic, character and looks-wise.
As for Ashley... well, she looks great in the CGI trailer for the original Mass Effect: (Miranda does too in the Blur CGI trailer).
I haven't played the original Mass Effect since upgrading to my current HD4770, but I remember that on my old rig there was an unnerving clipping issue with her eyes. I don't mind the face but Ashley has the worst eye animation out of all squad members in both games and it creeps me out. Plus, her hair looks more plastic than the rest, and they're not great too. Not the hairdo, I mean, the way the model and texture look, just fake. Morringan's hair texture would make her far more realistic.
She's still my favorite main female character in Mass Effect, though. Simply because she's the most realistic, character and looks-wise.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 10:15
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The variety of characters is one of the best ME's feature... it's not necessary that every girl of the game have the curves of Miranda, or the hips of Tali, or that goes around dressed like Samara... Ashley's good as she is. If you like a character this should mean that you like her more than just for her appearance (that's not tha bad as you pictured)... if you wants a game with only a good-looking character without caring much of everything else I suggest you to play with Tomb Raider, so you can stare at the Lara Croft's butt all the time.
And please... don't take this as an hardcore-fan comment. Ash's not my favourite character, but I respect her fanbase and the work that BW did on her, so I still find this... irritating.
And please... don't take this as an hardcore-fan comment. Ash's not my favourite character, but I respect her fanbase and the work that BW did on her, so I still find this... irritating.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 10:30
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BiancoAngelo7 wrote...
Seriously, I like her just as much as the next guy, but in all of her concept art, or box art she looks like a major BABE, and then in game she looks pretty bland, especially her face, where she has quite a masculine element.
Unless you really really like her personality, her looks are definitely not gonna entice me to keep her over Liara, Tali or especially Mirandas "genetically enhanced" ... features.
It's because Ash is a real, believable, human character.
Liara is a pureblood among a species of alien space babes (regardless of what BioWare says).
Miranda is genetically enhanced to be beautiful by her father (kind of creepy if you ask me), and modelled from a real-life actor, and part of her storyline is that she's supposed to be above average in everything and capable of doing combat wearing skintight catsuits and heels.
And nobody has seen Tali's face, and she has only three digits on each hand. Apparently she has hips.
BiancoAngelo7 wrote...
I know its not a big deal and they probably wont change it, hell Im not even sure theyll bring her back in ME3.
..........Ash fans have been guaranteed that she's been saved for a special role in ME3......
Alienmorph wrote...
The variety of characters is one of the best ME's feature.
If you like a character this should mean that you like her more than just for her appearance.
Agreed.
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Posté 24 décembre 2010 - 10:55
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people find Ash attractive, some people don't. Did we really need a thread about it?
I think Ash is pretty, but one of the things I like about her is that, while beautiful, she has the "normal girl" look, and also looks like a badass soldier that could drop anything in the blink of an eye. Yet it always feels like if she wanted to, she could look like a super model. But that's not what Ash is about, she doesn't need to do that. That's not her job. Hell, she's better than that.
I think Ash is pretty, but one of the things I like about her is that, while beautiful, she has the "normal girl" look, and also looks like a badass soldier that could drop anything in the blink of an eye. Yet it always feels like if she wanted to, she could look like a super model. But that's not what Ash is about, she doesn't need to do that. That's not her job. Hell, she's better than that.
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